Jul 20, 2023 LAFCO Meeting

ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE MEETING FOR THE MERCED COUNTY LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION ON THURSDAY, JULY 20TH,

[I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

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AND I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER HOGUE TO LEAD US IN THE FLAG SALUTE.

OKAY. READY.

BEGIN.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HOGUE.

NO, I WASN'T CALLING ROLL YET.

I WAS JUST SAYING THANK YOU FOR LEADING US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

WE WILL NOW GO TO THE ROLL CALL OF COMMISSIONERS BOTH AT WORK DOING IT RIGHT.

LET ME GO TO BE ABLE TO CLICK IT ON.

THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT, COMMISSIONER SERRATTO HERE, COMMISSIONER HOGUE HERE, COMMISSIONER BERTAO HERE AND CHAIRMAN SILVEIRA PRESENT. OKAY, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM FOR TODAY.

AND ALL THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS HAVE INDICATED THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO ATTEND.

OKAY, WHO'S COMMISSIONER REYNOLDS? THAT'S ATWATER.

BRIAN REYNOLDS.

HE. HE HAS BRIAN RAYMOND.

RAYMOND. YEAH.

LET'S GET THAT CORRECTED. I WAS LIKE, I DON'T KNOW, REYNOLDS.

THAT'S SOMEBODY NEW.

YEAH, HE'S HE'S THE ALTERNATE FOR ALTERNATE CITY REP WHO HASN'T COME YET, BUT YEAH, I'M SORRY.

ITS RAYMOND. OKAY, PERFECT.

WE'LL GET THAT CORRECTED ON THERE.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM FOUR IS THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

[IV. CONSENT CALENDAR]

SO MOVED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BERTAO, A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SERRATTO.

WOULD A MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. ANY OPPOSED.

THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 4 TO 0.

CITIZENS COMMUNICATION, TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES OR LESS PER PERSON.

THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OVER WHICH LAFCO HAS JURISDICTION.

TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO FIVE MINUTES OR LESS PER PERSON.

I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE.

WE WILL MOVE ON FROM THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION ONTO ITEM SIX AND THAT WOULD BE PUBLIC HEARINGS AND WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

SO WE'LL MOVE RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN GENERAL BUSINESS A.

[VII.A. Enter contract with Economic and Planning Systems, Inc. (EPS) for preparation of an update to the "Resource Conservation District Municipal Service Review" in the amount of $30,600.00.]

FOR THE PREPARATION OF AN UPDATE TO THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICT MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW IN THE AMOUNT OF $30,600. AND WE'LL GO TO MR. NICHOLSON. OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES. SINCE WE TALKED ABOUT THIS DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS, THAT THE NEXT MSR TO UPDATE MUNICIPAL SERVICE FOR YOU TO UPDATE WOULD BE THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICT, WHICH IS ORIGINALLY PREPARED IN 2008.

AND IT ACTUALLY IS THE LAST ORIGINAL MSR THAT HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED.

SO WE'VE UPDATED EVERY EVERY SINGLE MSR, A COUPLE OF THEM TWICE SINCE THE ORIGINAL ADOPTION.

SO THIS WILL GET US UP TO SPEED WITH WITH THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

THEY'RE VERY ACTIVE ON THE EAST SIDE, THE EAST MERCED ON THE WEST SIDE, GUS OR AUGUSTINE.

BUT THE WESTLANDS I'M SORRY, GRASSLANDS, OUR CITY IS VERY ACTIVE AND THE OTHER ONES AREN'T SO ACTIVE.

SO THIS WILL BE A CHALLENGE TO GET INFORMATION AND TRY TO FIND CONTACT PEOPLE FOR THE AUGUSTINE ROMERO AND THERE'S A LOS BANOS RCD.

AND SO THAT WILL BE OUR CHALLENGE ON THIS THIS ONE.

SO QUESTION FOR YOU.

MR. BERTAO, IS THE SAN LUIS OR HENRY MILLER ONE STILL IN EXISTENCE? WHAT DO THEY CALL IT NOW? YEAH, THERE IS A SAN LUIS RESOURCE.

YEAH, THERE USED TO BE.

I MEAN I DON'T YEAH, THERE IS ONE ON ON PAPER.

ON PAPER. YEAH. I DON'T EVEN THINK IT'S ACTIVE ANYMORE.

NO, NO. THAT'S THE THING.

EVEN FINDING A CONTACT PERSON OF WHO IT IS THE LAST WHEN WE DO NOTIFICATIONS OF CERTAIN THINGS, WE HAVE TO SEND IT TO ALL SPECIAL DISTRICTS.

AND WE CONSISTENTLY GET THE MAIL KICKED BACK FROM LOS BANOS, SAN LUIS AND AUGUSTINE ROMERO THAT THERE'S NO WHOEVER USED TO GET THE MAIL. IT WAS A COMPANY.

I USED TO GET THE MAIL. THEY'RE THE ONES THAT USED TO OPERATE OUT OF THAT.

BUT THEY HAVE HENRY MILLER RECLAMATION DISTRICT.

YEAH, THAT ONE'S STILL ACTIVE.

YEAH, IT'S DIFFERENT, BUT THAT'S.

YEAH, THAT'S A RECLAMATION DISTRICT.

SOIL CONSERVATION DISTRICT.

YEAH. AND ACTUALLY THERE IS FOR THE HENRY MILLER THAT YOU BRING THAT UP.

I MISSPOKE THAT THIS WAS THE LAST ORIGINAL MSR.

WE HAVE ONE LAST CATEGORY WHICH IS OTHER MSRS, AND THAT'S FOR ALL THESE UNUSUAL SPECIAL DISTRICTS.

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THERE ARE SEVERAL ONE OFF DISTRICTS THAT WE DON'T HAVE SEVERAL OF THEM.

AND SO WE PUT THEM IN THIS OTHER CATEGORY.

SO HENRY MILLER RECLAMATION IS IN THERE UNDER THAT ONE.

SO WILL WE BE MAYBE LOOKING AT THOSE NEXT YEAR? YEAH, THAT'D BE THE NEXT ONE TO DO.

AND THAT'S IN ADDITION TO UPDATES THAT COME UP PERIODICALLY THAT WILL DO BECAUSE OF AN APPLICATION, LET'S SAY, SUCH AS CITY OF LOS BANOS. WE'RE WORKING ON THAT RIGHT NOW, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT LATER.

OKAY. SO ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MISTER NICHOLSON? OKAY. THIS IS THE PUBLIC'S OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ON ITEM SEVEN A.

NOT SEEING ANYONE WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.

CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOGUE.

SECOND. I'LL SECOND.

SECOND BY COMMISSIONER SERRATTO.

OKAY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE? AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY 4 TO 0.

MOVING RIGHT ALONG TO ITEM SEVEN B, INFORMATION ON THE UPCOMING CAL LAFCO ANNUAL CONFERENCE OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH THE 20TH 2023 AT THE HYATT REGENCY MONTEREY HOTEL AND SPA

[VII.B. Information on the upcoming CALAFCO Annual Conference, October 18 through 20, 2023, at the Hyatt Regency Monterey Hotel and Spa in Monterey, California]

MR. NICHOLSON. OKAY.

YES. THIS IS ONE OF THE STANDARD LOCATIONS THAT CAL LAFCO GOES TO A ROTATING BASIS, USUALLY EVERY FOUR YEARS.

AND DURING COVID, OF COURSE, THERE WAS NO CONFERENCES FOR THREE YEARS.

SO THEY'RE PICKING THIS BACK UP IN MONTEREY.

AS YOU MENTIONED, THE DATES ARE FROM WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 20TH TO FRIDAY, OCTOBER 22ND.

USUALLY THAT STARTS A HALF DAY ON THE 20TH, THE WEDNESDAY WITH A SPECIAL TRIP RIGHT NOW TO THE MONTEREY AIRPORT IN THE MORNING WITH A THE ADDED COST IF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.

SO WE GOT CONFUSION ON THE DATES.

YOU HAVE OCTOBER 20TH TO THE 22ND.

AND BUT ON THE PAPER IT SAYS OCTOBER 18TH THROUGH THE 20TH.

SO LOOK RIGHT HERE.

OKAY. YEAH.

THEIR PAPERWORK IS CORRECT FOR SURE.

SO YEAH.

SO IT'S 18TH.

YEAH. TO THE 20TH.

YEAH. I'M SORRY. THAT.

18TH, 19TH OR 20TH.

YEAH, THERE WE GO. SO, YEAH, SO IT STARTS WEDNESDAY, THE 18TH, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY AND GOES THROUGH FRIDAY.

YEAH. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT CORRECTION.

YES. OKAY.

UM, SO RIGHT NOW WE, I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNTY LAFCO COMMISSIONERS HAVE ALL SIGNED UP AND REGISTERED.

SO WHAT WE, WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS.

SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A CREDIT CARD AT LAFCO, YOU HAVE TO MAKE YOUR OWN HOTEL RESERVATIONS.

AND IF YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, A BOARD MEMBER OR CITY COUNCIL MEMBER, YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR YOUR STAFF AT THE CITY OR THE BOARD DO THAT.

BUT WE WILL DO THE REGISTRATION FOR THE CONFERENCE.

AND WE GAVE YOU THE APPLICATION FORM OR THE REGISTRATION FORM TO FILL OUT.

AND IF YOU GET YOU COULD EMAIL THAT INTO US OR FAX IT OVER TO US AND WE CAN SUBMIT THAT WITH THE PAYMENT WE HAVE UNTIL THE END OF THIS MONTH TO GET A DISCOUNTED RATE OF $615.

AND AFTER THIS MONTH IT GOES UP $35 TO 650 AND THEN IT GOES EVEN HIGHER AFTER THAT AFTER THE END OF AUGUST.

SO THE SOONER YOU GET IT IN, THE BETTER.

THE MORE CHALLENGING THING IS TO HAVE THE DISCOUNTED ROOMS AT THE HYATT REGENCY MARRIOTT THAT I'M SORRY, HYATT REGENCY, WHAT IS IT, GOLF COURSE AND DEL MONTE GOLF COURSE AND THE THE NUMBER OF ROOMS THAT ARE DISCOUNTED IS ALWAYS LIMITED.

SO YOU WANT TO MAKE GET A RESERVATION IN RIGHT AWAY TO LOCK THOSE ROOMS IN.

OTHERWISE THE COST GOES WAY UP.

SO AND LAFCO WILL REIMBURSE YOU.

HOWEVER, WHETHER YOU PAID IT YOURSELF, WHETHER YOU HAVE A CITY OR THE COUNTY PAY WILL REIMBURSE THE COST FOR THAT.

SO AND THEY'RE USUALLY VERY GOOD ENTERTAINING AND INFORMATION IS IS DEFINITELY FOR FOR NEWER COMMISSIONERS IT'S A GREAT THING TO DO.

SO SOME FOLKS HAVE BEEN.

COMMISSIONER BERTAO HAS BEEN A DOZEN TIMES BY BY NOW.

SO YOU DEFINITELY ENCOURAGE ATTENDANCE IF YOU IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING.

AND WE ALWAYS BUDGET FOR EVERYONE TO GO.

SO THERE'S DEFINITELY EVERYTHING WILL BE REIMBURSED.

OKAY. AND SO JUST AS A REMINDER TO EVERYONE THAT JULY 31ST IS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN GOING JULY 31ST IS THE NOT DEADLINE, BUT IT'S THE POINT AT WHICH WE GET A DISCOUNTED RATE ON THE ENTRY FEE FOR THE CONFERENCE AND IT GOES UP FROM THERE.

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AND OUR ATTORNEYS ALWAYS HAVE A GOOD DINNER FOR US ONE NIGHT, TOO.

YEAH. SO THAT'S ALWAYS GO TO A NICE THEY ALWAYS PICK OUT A GOOD PLACE TO GO TO.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

SO THAT IS AN INFORMATION ITEM.

SO WE JUST PUT THAT OUT FOR EVERYBODY AND THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM C, THIS IS THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS NOMINATIONS APPOINTED APPOINTMENT, A VOTING DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE FOR THE

[VII.C. Board of Directors Nominations, Appointment of Voting Delegate and Alternate for the CALAFCO Board Elections and Related Business for the October 2023 CALAFCO Conference in Monterey. And to solicit nominations for a City Member and/or a Public Member if any Commissioners from Merced LAFCo are interested in running for office.]

IF ANY COMMISSIONER FROM MERCED LAFCO ARE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR OFFICE.

SO MR. NICHOLSON, DO YOU WANT TO ELABORATE ON THAT OR DO WE JUST WANT TO GO RIGHT INTO DISCUSSION? YEAH, I GUESS JUST BRIEFLY, I'LL ELABORATE ON IT.

THE MAIN ACTION THAT HAPPENS AT THE CONFERENCE IS THE VOTING OF OR VOTING FOR THE BOARD MEMBERS.

AND SO EACH LAFCO HAS VOTING DELEGATES FOR THAT AND THEY ACTUALLY ARE ORGANIZED INTO FOUR REGIONS OF CAL LAFCO NOW AND WE'RE IN THE CENTRAL REGION.

SO WHAT THEY HAVE IS A MORNING MEETING ON THE THURSDAY IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONFERENCE WHERE THEY THE CANDIDATES WHO ARE RUNNING FOR ONE OF THE SPOTS ON THE BOARD, WHETHER THEY BE CITY OR COUNTY OR SPECIAL DISTRICT OR THE PUBLIC MEMBER, DO A LITTLE SPEECH ABOUT THEIR QUALIFICATIONS AND THEN THE VOTING DELEGATES GET TO VOTE BY EACH REGION.

SO YOU'D ONLY VOTE ON ONES FROM BASICALLY FOR US, THE CENTRAL VALLEY.

AND SO WE HAVE A VOTING DELEGATE WHO WOULD REALLY VOTE.

BUT IF SOMETHING HAPPENED, THEY GOT FOOD POISONING THE NIGHT BEFORE FROM THE BVNK, THE TOURNEY DINNER OR SOMETHING.

THEN THE ALTERNATE DELEGATE CAN VOTE.

SO SO THAT THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF IT.

AND THEN WE HAVE ALSO THE NOMINATIONS, IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED.

I SENT OUT A SEPARATE EMAIL TO THE CITY MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC MEMBERS.

IF YOU WANTED TO RUN FOR THE CAL LAFCO BOARD, THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF PAPERWORK TO FILL OUT AND THE LITTLE RESUME, AND THEN WE NEED A NOMINATION FOR THAT CANDIDATE FROM THIS COMMISSION.

AND IF WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS FOR NEXT MONTH RIGHT NOW.

SO TODAY WOULD BE THE DAY TO NOMINATE SOMEBODY IF SOMEBODY'S INTERESTED, AND THEN WE CAN DO THE PAPERWORK AND GET IT IN.

BUT TODAY WOULD BE THE DAY IF SOMEONE WAS INTERESTED.

AND I HAVE NOT HEARD ANY RESPONSE FROM ANYBODY.

SINCE WE HAVE THEM HERE, WE'LL ASK THEM DIRECTLY.

YES. SO THE CITY REPS IS ANYBODY WANT TO WOULD ANYBODY BE INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR A SEAT ON THE CAL LAFCO BOARD? APRIL SAYS NO, MATT.

NO TO STUFF. OKAY.

YEAH, ME TOO.

NO, I WOULD.

IT SOUNDS GREAT. I MEAN, I'D LIKE TO, BUT THERE'S JUST NO, THERE'S NO.

THERE'S NO MORE TIME. WE ALL.

WE'RE ALL EXTREMELY BUSY, SO WE GOT THAT.

SO THEN WE CAN GO TO OUR PUBLIC MEMBER.

BOB. NO, THANK YOU.

I THINK I'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IT IN THE PAST, BUT NOW I'VE GOT MY HANDS FULL RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE PUT IT OUT THERE.

PLUS, MY POLITICAL DIFFERENT MY POLITICS IS A LOT DIFFERENT THAN 90% OF THOSE PEOPLE, SO ..

MAYBE THEY NEED THAT A LITTLE BIT.

YEAH. OKAY.

SO LITTLE BOB TO SPICE IT UP.

WE'VE NOW DETERMINED THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY INTERESTED IN BECOMING A RUNNING FOR A CITY MEMBER SPOT OR A PUBLIC MEMBER SPOT.

I GUESS YOU DON'T HEAR BACK FROM MISTER RAYMOND OR MISTER HUNTER.

WE HAVE A DEFINITE THERE.

AND THEN THE OTHER PART OF THIS IS TO NOMINATE A VOTING AND AN ALTERNATE VOTING MEMBER.

YOUR DELEGATE? YES. DELEGATE.

OKAY. WELL, I KNOW COMMISSIONER BERTAO IS GOING TO BE THERE, SO I'M GOING TO NOMINATE HIM TO BE THE VOTING DELEGATE.

OKAY. I'LL ACCEPT THAT.

YOU'LL ACCEPT THAT? YEAH.

AND I'M GOING TO BE THERE.

SO IN CASE WHO WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE VOTING DELEGATE LAST YEAR, THEY DIDN'T GO, I THINK, AND I ENDED UP BEING THE VOTING DELEGATE ANYHOW, MAYBE.

I'M NOT QUITE SURE ON THAT ONE.

I DON'T REMEMBER FOR SURE.

BUT IF EVERYBODY'S OKAY WITH IT, SINCE I KNOW THAT I'M GOING TO BE THERE, I'LL BE THE ALTERNATE VOTING MEMBER.

I'LL NOMINATE MYSELF.

ALL RIGHT. SO CAN WE GET A SECOND ON THOSE NOMINATIONS? SECOND. OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BERTAO AS THE VOTING DELEGATE AND MYSELF AS THE ALTERNATE VOTING DELEGATE.

AND WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOGUE.

DOES THE PUBLIC WANT TO HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS? NOT SEEING ANYONE.

WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THE DAIS.

WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

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YOU KNOW, CHAIRMAN, THE VOTING LAST YEAR HAPPENED SO FAST THAT WHEN I GOT INTO THE I'M USUALLY NOT LATE TO GET

[VIII. EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS]

THEY WERE ALREADY HALFWAY THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR WITH THEIR PRESENTATIONS AND STUFF.

AND IT WAS A SMALL I MEAN, THEIR ORGANIZATION, ORANGE COUNTY ORGANIZATION LAST YEAR WAS NOT GOOD.

I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE USUALLY USED TO DO BEFORE THAT HAD MORE PARTICIPATION THAT THEY JUST KIND OF WENT OVER THAT, YOU KNOW, AND THERE WASN'T A LOT OF TIME, THERE WASN'T A LOT OF TIME TO DO A LOT OF THAT STUFF.

AND I JUST REGIONAL MEETING.

I THOUGHT THE REGIONAL MEETING WAS VERY POOR.

YOU DID HAVE THE DISCUSSION OF, YOU KNOW, AND STUFF.

SO AND I THINK IT'S, IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEY NEED TO PUT IT IN MONTERREY ALL THE TIME.

AND I KNOW IT'S MORE, YOU KNOW THEY MIGHT THINK WE SAY THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE'RE CLOSE TO IT BUT IT'S THE CENTRAL PART OF THE STATE.

WHEN YOU HAVE ONE DOWN IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA, THOSE NORTHERN YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT THOSE NORTHERN AREAS UP THERE ARE A LOT LESS LIKELY TO COME ALL THE WAY TO SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

AND SO BUT I MEAN, THAT'S THAT'S THEIR RULES.

THE MONTERREY JUST SEEMS LIKE I'VE BEEN TO THE LAFCO CONFERENCE IN MONTEREY.

I BELIEVE I'VE BEEN TO IT ONE TIME UP IN TAHOE.

AND BY FAR THE ONE IN MONTEREY IS ALWAYS HAD THE BEST TURNOUT.

THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE PARTICIPATION WHEN IT'S THAT ONE IN MONTEREY.

SO. WELL, THEY HAD THE ONE AT YOSEMITE HERE, WHAT, EIGHT YEARS, EIGHT, TEN YEARS AGO.

THAT WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS KIND OF NICE, BUT WHATEVER.

YEAH. OKAY. WE'RE MOVING RIGHT ALONG, FOLKS.

TO ITEM EIGHT.

THIS IS THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

AND SO WE'LL START WITH MR. NICHOLSON. OKAY.

SINCE WE HAD A LIGHT AGENDA, I THOUGHT I'D GIVE A LITTLE MORE THOROUGH UPDATE OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH POTENTIAL APPLICATIONS.

AND ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS IS INTERACTIONS WITH THE CITIES AND WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EITHER MSR UPDATES OR SPHERES OR GENERAL PLANS THAT WILL EVENTUALLY HIT LAFCO.

SO I'M JUST GOING TO GO DOWN IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER.

THE CITY OF ATWATER IS STARTING A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE ON THE FIRST ONE IN MANY YEARS.

ONE OF THEIR THEY FORMED A GENERAL PLAN STEERING COMMITTEE THAT HAS CITIZENS AND COUNCIL MEMBERS ON IT.

AND I'VE ATTENDED ONE MEETING TO DISCUSS LAFCO WITH THEM AND THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE PROCESS AND THE PROCESS FOR FUTURE ANNEXATIONS AND THE RELATIONSHIP ON THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE COUNTY AND REACHED AN AGREEMENT ON THE SPHERE IF THEY CAN.

SO THEY'RE IN THE EARLY STAGES RIGHT NOW TRYING TO DEFINE THE A STUDY AREA BOUNDARY THAT THAT WOULD BE USED TO EVALUATE THE FUTURE GROWTH AND EVENTUALLY EITHER ANNEX OR MAYBE THEY'LL THEY'LL HONE THE BOUNDARY BACK.

BUT THAT'S THE STAGE THEY'RE AT.

AND I'VE THEY HAVE BEEN KEEPING ME IN THE LOOP.

SO HOPEFULLY THAT'LL, KEEP GOING AND WE'LL, WE'LL END UP WITH SOMETHING.

WHEN IT COMES TO LAFCO THAT'S ACCEPTABLE.

AND THEN AGAIN, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY AND DISCUSS THE SPHERE AND NOT NECESSARILY REVENUE SHARING, BUT LAND USE RELATIONSHIPS.

THERE WAS ALSO RECENTLY AN EMERGENCY OR EXCUSE ME, IT HASN'T HAPPENED YET, BUT THERE IS AN EMERGENCY WATER PROBLEM THAT A SMALL MOBILE HOME PARK THAT HAS 13 UNITS IN IT THAT'S OUT IN THE COUNTY ON THE WEST SIDE OF SCHAEFER ROAD, AND THEY'RE THE STATE'S BEST SOLUTION FOR IT IS TO HOOK UP TO CITY WATER.

SO WE'LL BE GETTING AN OUT OF BOUNDARY EXTENSION APPLICATION.

IT'S OUTSIDE THE SPHERE OF THE CITY, SO IT HAS TO BE BASED ON HEALTH AND SAFETY.

BUT THERE'S STATE DIVISION OF DRINKING WATER IS INVOLVED.

IT'S ALWAYS A HEALTH AND SAFETY PROBLEM.

SO THAT'S THE NEXT APPLICATION THAT I'VE RECEIVED FROM THAT LETTER.

YEAH, IT'S NORTH OF TOWN. YEAH, IT'S ACROSS SANTA FE TO THE NORTH.

I'M KIND OF IN AN AREA THAT WINTON WAS LOOKING AT, BUT WINTON, THE WINTON WATER SANITARY DISTRICT, THINKING OF AN AREA FOR GROWTH, BUT THEY DON'T HAVE CAPACITY TO SERVE IT.

SO AN ATWATER DOES.

SO THAT'LL, THAT'LL HELP DECIDE THEIR GROWTH.

WHO'S GOING TO GROW IN THAT AREA.

MOVING ON TO DOS PALOS.

THEY THEY ARE ALSO, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WORKING ON A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE.

AND ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT I'VE HAD MEETINGS ON WITH THE POTENTIAL GROWTH IN THE MIDWAY AREA, WHICH IS ITS OWN SPECIAL DISTRICT AND IT'S ALSO A DISADVANTAGE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY, WE CALL THEM A DUCK AND UNDER SP 244, IF YOU ANNEX MORE THAN TEN ACRES, YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT BRINGING IN ANY ADJACENT DISADVANTAGED COMMUNITY.

SO I THINK THAT THE CITY IS LOOKING AT BRINGING IN ALL OF MIDWAY AS PART OF THAT EFFORT.

SO ABOUT SOUTH DOS PALOS YEAH, YEAH, IT'S TOO MUCH.

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YOU'RE NOT READY FOR THAT? YEAH.

SO NOT MUCH DIFFERENT.

THERE'S NOT MUCH DIFFERENCE.

NO, I THINK THERE'S, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE DUCK ISSUE, IF YOU TOOK ALL OF MIDWAY IN, WHICH IS A BIG I THINK IT'S FOUR SQUARE MILES, IT IT WOULD BE A BIG IT REALLY IN A SENSE A BENEFIT FOR THE AREA.

AND THEN DOING SOUTH DOS PALOS COMPLICATES BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD PROTEST.

SO THAT'S ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE OF PEOPLE PROTESTING AN ANNEXATION.

IT'S NOT JUST VACANT LAND.

IT'S PEOPLE LIVING OUT THERE.

SO THEY'LL THEY'LL THEIR VOTES WILL OUTWEIGH SOME LANDOWNER OR DEVELOPER ON WANTING TO ANNEX LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THERE'S ALL THESE OTHER OTHER PEOPLE INVOLVED.

SO A LOT OF GOOD CITY, CITY AND NEIGHBOR RELATIONS THAT THAT WILL TAKE PLACE.

SO THAT'S THAT'S GOOD LONG STANDING ISSUE.

IT'S IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.

OKAY SO OVER IN GUSTINE, YOU KNOW THEY HAD THEY HAD THEIR GENERAL PLAN UPDATE PROBABLY ABOUT EIGHT YEARS AGO NOW AND THEN WE HAD THAT LARGE SOUTHEAST ANNEXATION ABOUT THREE YEARS AGO NOW.

AND I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYTHING HAPPENING OUT THERE.

SO EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A BIG PROJECT AND ALL PLANNED OUT AND EVERYTHING WAS SUPPOSEDLY FINANCED, I DON'T SEE ANYTHING GOING ON.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

WE DON'T HAVE PAT NAGY HERE ANYMORE, SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THEM.

BUT I DON'T I DON'T HEAR MUCH OF ANYTHING FOR FUTURE ANNEXATIONS IN GUSTINE RIGHT NOW.

PRETTY QUIET AND UP IN LIVINGSTON.

I DID HAVE A MEETING NOT TOO LONG AGO WITH A DEVELOPER CONSULTANT AND A CITY PLANNER ON A POTENTIAL ANNEXATION ON THE SOUTHWEST SIDE OF TOWN, AND LIVINGSTON IS IN A SITUATION WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE A REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY, SO THEY CAN'T ANNEX ANYTHING AND THEY'RE AWARE OF THAT. SO I BELIEVE THERE'S THERE'S I JUST HEARD THAT THERE'S THEY SET UP A SUBCOMMITTEE TO, UM, TO ACTUALLY TO START DISCUSSING HAVING THOSE DISCUSSIONS AGAIN.

THAT JUST HAPPENED RECENTLY.

CORRECT? AD HOC.

AD HOC COMMITTEE. THERE YOU GO.

YEAH. SO GREAT.

YEAH. YEAH, THE MAYOR AND THE VICE MAYOR.

OKAY. MAYOR AND VICE MAYOR. YEAH.

SO. SO THAT PROCESS GOES ON.

THEIR GENERAL PLAN IS, IS ALL THE COURSE.

SO THOSE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT REVENUE SHARING ARE GOOD FOR ANNEXATIONS.

AND THE PROPERTY I WAS TALKING TO THESE PEOPLE ABOUT WERE IS ALREADY WITHIN THE SPHERE, SO THEY WOULDN'T NEED A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE FOR THAT.

I'M JUST, YOU KNOW, UTILITY PLANS AND ALL THAT.

BUT THE LARGER GENERAL PLAN UPDATE THEN WOULD BE INVOLVE EVENTUALLY THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE DISCUSSION WITH THE COUNTY AND AND THE REVENUE SHARING FOR ANNEXATION. SO YEAH, SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF NEWER, NEWER ACTIVITY GOING ON THERE.

UM, THEN LOS BANOS ADOPTED THEIR 2042 GENERAL PLAN EARLIER THIS YEAR, AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE TRYING TO SET UP A MEETING WITH STEVE MAXIE, WHICH IS THE COUNTY PLANNER AND MYSELF REPRESENTING LAFCO TO TALK TO THEIR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR, STACY SOUZA ELMS ABOUT THEIR THEIR DESIRED SPHERE AND THAT IF THERE'S LAFCO ISSUES WITH THE SPHERE, WE SENT A LETTER TO THEM ON THE GENERAL PLAN AND THEN THE COUNTY HAS THIS THE SAME ISSUE WHERE WHEN YOU'RE WHEN A CITY WANTS TO UPDATE THEIR SPHERE, THEY HAVE TO GO NEGOTIATE WITH THE COUNTY.

LAST TIME THEY COULDN'T REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT SPHERE NEVER GOT UPDATED AND THE MSR WAS NOT APPROVED BY LAFCO. ACTUALLY AT THE TIME IT WAS CONTINUED AND AND NEVER BROUGHT IT BACK.

SO WE'RE DEALING, I THINK, WITH THE 2004 MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW.

SO RIGHT NOW ON TODAY'S AGENDA, WE APPROVED THE MSR UPDATE FOR THE RESOURCE CONSERVATION DISTRICTS.

I HAVE A FULL PROPOSAL FOR THE LOS BANOS MSR UPDATE, AND I SENT THAT TO STACY SOUZA TO LOOK AT THE CONTENTS OF IT AND THE COST.

AND THE CITY WOULD BE BECAUSE THEY'RE DOING AN UPDATE, THEY WOULD INITIATE IT, THEY WOULD BE REIMBURSING US FOR IT.

IT'S IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE $46,000.

AND SO, YEAH, SO WE'LL BE MEETING AND TALKING ABOUT THE PROCESS AND AND THE GENERAL PLAN AND SOME OF THE ISSUES.

AND THEN THEY'LL BE TALKING TO THE COUNTY AT SOME POINT BEFORE TOO LONG IF THEY HAVEN'T ALREADY ON THE SPHERE ISSUES.

SO AND THAT'LL TAKE THAT WHOLE PROCESS WILL TAKE OVER A YEAR WHEN YOU DO AN MSR ON SOMETHING THAT COMPLICATED.

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THEY HAVE A CURRENT REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT SO THEY CAN STILL ANNEX LAND ADJACENT TO THE CITY.

AND WE STILL HAVE THIS PENDING AMG INDUSTRIAL ANNEXATION THAT THE CITY IS STILL WORKING, WORKING WITH THE APPLICANT AND I THINK CDD ON AT THIS POINT, BUT NO OTHER I HAVEN'T RECEIVED ANY OTHER APPLICATIONS FROM THEM OR ANY INDICATION OF NEW APPLICATIONS.

AND THEN FOR MERCED, THE THE MAIN FOCUS OF MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS HAS BEEN ON THE NORTH MERCED AREA AND ALL THE POTENTIAL ANNEXATIONS OF PEOPLE INTERESTED IN ANNEXING PARTLY BECAUSE OF UC MERCED AND BERKELEY, BECAUSE MOST OF THE GROWTH IS IS DIRECTED TO THE NORTH.

SO THE AT THIS POINT THE.

IMPETUS FOR THE ANNEXATION OF LAND NEAR THE CAMPUS THE UC MERCED CAMPUS HAS TO OCCUR AFTER THE CAMPUS ANNEXATIONS YOU CAN HAVE DISCUSSIONS, BUT YOU CAN'T.

WE CAN'T PROCESS ANY ANNEXATION FOR ADJACENT LAND UNTIL THE CAMPUS IS ANNEXED.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT THE CITY AND THE UC HAVE GOTTEN CLOSE TO RESOLVING ALL THEIR ISSUES, OR MAYBE THEY HAVE, AND THAT ANNEXATION WILL PROBABLY BE DONE BY THE END OF THE YEAR OR SUBMITTED TO LAFCO BY THE END OF THE YEAR.

SO WE'LL HAVE THAT TO DEAL WITH.

AND THEN ONCE THE CAMPUS IS ANNEXED, LANDS TO CONTIGUOUS ADJACENT TO THE CAMPUS CAN BE ANNEXED.

AND MR. COMMISSIONER BERTAO HAS A QUESTION.

YEAH, I HAVE A QUESTION.

MAYOR SERRATTO, MAYBE YOU CAN ANSWER IT.

SOME LAND ALREADY WAS ANNEXED, YOU KNOW, NORTH OF YOSEMITE, ALONG G STREET THERE, I THINK A LITTLE BIT.

BUT DOESN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE THAT WE NEED TO ANNEX TO THE NORTH BEFORE YOU ANNEX THE CAMPUS? AND THEN AND I, I DON'T CARE IF THEY HAVE A LITTLE STRIP BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THAT'S THE TOOL THEY'RE GOING TO USE.

BUT THEY'RE THE CAPITALS WILL BE IN THE CITY AND YOU'LL HAVE THIS A LOT OF THIS LAND BETWEEN THE CAMPUS AND WHATEVER HAS BEEN ANNEXED BACK TO THE SOUTH, THAT THAT STILL WOULD BE PENDING ANNEXATION.

WOULDN'T IT MAKE MORE SENSE TO TO ANNEX THAT OTHER PART FIRST AND THEN THE CAMPUS? I MEAN, I KNOW I KNOW WHAT THE THE PLAN IS TO HAVE THE CAMPUS IN THE CITY, BUT, I MEAN, YOU'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE THERE BY PUTTING THE CAMPUS IN FIRST.

THEY GOT SPECIAL LEGISLATION, OF COURSE.

ABSOLUTELY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THAT'S CALIFORNIA.

BUT I MEAN, YOU KNOW.

BUT BUT I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO FOLLOW OUR IF WE WANT TO FOLLOW OUR NOT NECESSARILY GUIDELINES, BUT BUT KIND OF THE CRITERIA WE'VE KIND OF FOLLOWED IN IN IN ALL THESE OTHER YEARS IS THAT WE TRY TO ANNEX THINGS THAT ARE ADJACENT BEFORE YOU GO FAR OUT TO GRAB STUFF, YOU KNOW.

WELL, I'LL JUST SHARE, SINCE I WAS INVOLVED IN THAT FROM THE BEGINNING AND AND FROM THE COUNTY PROCESS WHEN IT WAS GOING TO BE IN THE COUNTY AND NOT INVOLVE THE CITY, I MEAN, THE CITY WAS INVOLVED IN PLANNING, BUT NOT THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY GOING TO ANNEX IT.

IT WASN'T CLEAR.

THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN THE CAMPUS BEING AN ISOLATED LITTLE SPOT, TWO MILES, LITERALLY TWO MILES FROM THE CITY LIMITS DOWN BELLEVUE ROAD OR DOWN LAKE ROAD. AND IT'S IT'S NOT EFFICIENT.

IT'S NOT A THRIVING CAMPUS.

THE CAMPUS EDUCATIONALLY IS, BUT IT'S NOT THERE'S NO ACTIVITY AROUND THE CAMPUS AND THE THE WHOLE SALES PITCH TO THE U.S.

TO PICK MERCED, TO BUILD THE CAMPUS AND NOT GO TO FRESNO OR MADERA WAS THERE WAS AN INTEGRATED PLANNED COMMUNITY WITH IT THAT THE COUNTY, THE CITY OF MERCED AND THE UC THEMSELVES ALL JOINTLY PLANNED FOR.

THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN DEVELOPMENT NOW AND IT WOULD HAVE BEEN IN THE COUNTY.

AND THE ONLY REASON THAT THERE HASN'T BEEN DEVELOPMENT OUT THERE NOW, WHICH THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IT WAS PLANNED FOR, IS THAT THE CITY WOULDN'T GIVE SEWER TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY DOESN'T DO SEWER.

SO NONE OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS PLANNED COULD HAPPEN.

SO NOW AND THE CITY SERVED THE U.S., THOUGH.

SO THERE'S A SEWER LINE THERE AND A WATER LINE.

BUT NOW THROUGH THAT SPECIAL LEGISLATION WITH ADAM GRAY GOT PASSED, THE CITY CAN ANNEX THE U.S.

AND GET AROUND, YOU KNOW, JUST ANNEXING BELLEVUE ROAD, BUT GET AROUND THE THE LEAPFROG TYPE ANNEXATION.

BUT THE INTENT WAS ALWAYS THERE TO BE DEVELOPED AROUND THE CAMPUS.

AND SO SO I THINK THE ARGUMENT IS MORE COULD THERE BE DEVELOPMENT IN THE COUNTY HAPPENING THAT MAY OR MAY NOT INVOLVE LAFCO BECAUSE IT WOULD JUST BE A COUNTY IF YOU DON'T FORM A SPECIAL DISTRICT OR SOMETHING, WHICH WOULD BE DIFFICULT BECAUSE THE COUNTY DOESN'T DO URBAN SERVICES, THAT YOU DON'T DO SEWER AND WATER.

SO YOU'D PROBABLY HAVE TO FORM A SPECIAL DISTRICT.

SO IT'S A UNIQUE SITUATION.

I ACTUALLY TOOK THE LEGISLATION TO WHEN I WAS ON THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WITH CAL LAFCO.

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AND THEY THEY RECOGNIZED IT WAS USUALLY THEY WOULD SAY NO ON SOMETHING LIKE THIS, LIKE ALL THE AS YOU SAY, THE POLICIES FOR LAFCO DISCOURAGE THIS KIND OF THING.

BUT THEY THEY TOOK A NEUTRAL STANCE AND SAID THERE'S UNIQUE SITUATIONS EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE AND BECAUSE OF THE ISOLATED CAMPUS IF THEY THOUGHT IF MERCED LAFCO IS WILLING TO APPROVE IT, WHICH YOU GET TO VOTE ON IT, IT'S THIS COMMISSION WHO WILL DECIDE IF IT CAN HAPPEN OR NOT.

IF THEY FEEL IT'S IN THIS SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE PROTECTIONS IN IT, THEN THEN THEY WOULD STAY, STAY OUT OF THE PICTURE.

NORMALLY THEY WOULD HAVE OPPOSED IT.

AND SOME SOME PEOPLE VOICED OPINION THAT THEY SHOULD THEY SHOULD OPPOSE IT.

BUT OVERALL, THE THE MAJORITY SAID OR THE VAST MAJORITY ACTUALLY SAID, LEAVE IT UP TO THE MERCED LAFCO TO DEAL WITH.

SO SO IT'S VERY IT'S AN UNUSUAL SITUATION.

AND YOU CAN IMAGINE A STUDENT OUT THERE OR THE FACULTY WANTS TO GET A STARBUCKS AND THEY GOT TO GO, WELL, THAT'S THEIR CHOICE.

THREE MILES, YOU KNOW? WELL, YEAH, BUT I THINK IT HURTS THE RECRUITMENT OF STUDENTS.

IT HURTS THE RECRUITMENT OF GOOD FACULTY TO HAVE THIS ISOLATED CAMPUS.

SO IT COULD BE A BETTER IT COULD BE A BETTER FIT.

AND HAVING, YOU KNOW, IT'D BE SO MANY YEARS BEFORE GROWTH NATURALLY WOULD GET OUT THERE THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING FOR YEARS.

ONE MORE COMMENT. IT'S SEVERAL YEARS AGO AND I ASKED THEM OR SAID ONE OF THEM SAID CITY REPS FROM THEIR PLANNING DEPARTMENT WAS DURING THE DROUGHT, NOT THIS LAST DROUGHT.

THE DROUGHT BEFORE, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER MAKING A COMMENT TO HER, YOU KNOW, I YOU HAVE TO ONLY WATER YOUR LAWN ONCE A DAY AND THIS PERSON DOES THIS AND YOU CONSERVE AND THAT CONSERVE. AND NOW YOU WANT TO YOU WANT TO ANNEX MORE LAND OUT THERE.

WHERE'S ALL THE WATER SERVICES GOING TO COME FROM? HER COMMENT WAS, WELL, ALL WE CAN DO IS DRILL ANOTHER WELL.

WELL, TODAY WE'RE THE SIGMA BUSINESS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S COMMENT WAS WAS A VALID COMMENT, BUT THAT'S STILL THE MENTALITY.

YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS DRILL MORE WELLS TO GET MORE WATER.

BUT THEN WHO SUFFERS? WHO SUFFERS BY BY ONE ENTITY WANTING TO DRILL MORE WELLS AND SOMEBODY ELSE CAN'T, YOU KNOW.

WELL, SO I MEAN, THAT'S A LOT OF THINGS JUST TO WEIGH IN.

YEAH. SO THE BIGGER THING IS THE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE CAMPUS IS VERY SLIGHT COMPARED TO THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS THAT HAVE COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL FOR A PRE ANNEXATION REVIEW.

I WOULD MY OWN OPINION IS I THINK THERE'S THERE'S PENDING PROJECTS THAT WOULD ACCOMMODATE PROBABLY 40 YEARS OF GROWTH THAT ARE OUT IN THE COUNTY NOW NORTH OF THE CITY.

AND THERE'S SO MUCH DEMAND BY THE DEVELOPERS TO GET THEIR PROJECT IN THAT THERE'S MULTIPLE PROJECTS WITH THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF UNITS.

SO THERE'S SOME BY THE U.S., SOME OUT BY THE MERCED COUNTRY CLUB, SOME ON G STREET, THE NORTH SIDE OF BELLEVUE RANCH HASN'T EVEN BEEN BUILT.

AND SO TALKING ABOUT WATER THERE IS PLANNING FOR I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHERE IT IS AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE ANNEXATIONS COMING.

NEVER SAID, BUT IT COULD BE ENOUGH DEVELOPMENT.

MY ANTICIPATION WOULD BE LIKE 40 YEARS OF GROWTH.

AND HOW MUCH ANNEXATIONS DOES LAFCO ON A PROCESS WHEN THERE WON'T BE ACTUAL HOMES BUILT ON THAT LAND FOR 20, 30 OR 40 YEARS? USUALLY YOU'RE GETTING DEVELOPMENT RIGHT AWAY.

BUT WITH THAT MANY PROJECTS GOING, EVERYBODY WANTS TO CASH IN ON THE U.S.

DOLLAR BILL. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE 8000 OR SO ACRES BETWEEN THE CITY LIMITS AND THE U.S.

ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF THE AB THREE 3312 LANDS AFFECTED IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE U.S.? NO, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THE SPECIFIC PROJECTS THAT HAVE A SPONSOR THAT HAVE COME BEFORE US OR CITY COUNCIL.

YEAH. SO THERE'S A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER LAND THERE.

PROBABLY ROUGHLY 10,000 HOUSING UNITS COMBINED JUST IN THE LANDS IMMEDIATELY, PROBABLY ABOUT SIX OR SO PROJECTS, I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE U.S.

THAT DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION ABOUT WHERE'S THE WATER GOING TO COME FROM, THOUGH? OUT OF THE GROUND. THAT'S THAT'S THE GROUND OR DOWN THE RIVER COUNCIL'S PROBLEM THEN, YOU KNOW.

YEP. AND LAFCO GETS TO VOTE.

YEAH. SO IT'LL BE YOUR.

YOU'VE DONE SOME.

WE HAVE SOME, THERE'S SOME.

I MEAN IT'S KIND OF SIGMA SHIFTING THINGS AROUND BUT SOME DEALS WITH MID WHERE WE'RE ARE THE, THE WATER FROM OUR OUR WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT WHICH THE EXACT NUMBER BUT YOU'RE TALKING PROBABLY ABOUT I THINK THERE'S ABOUT 15,000 ACRE FEET THAT GO THROUGH THERE EVERY YEAR, ABOUT 9000 ACRE FEET THROUGH THERE, I BELIEVE.

AND A SIGNIFICANT PERCENTAGE OF THAT WE CAN KIND OF DO A SWAP WITH MID AND USE THAT FOR GROUNDWATER CREDITS.

SO THERE'S SOME THERE'S SOME CREATIVE THINGS WE CAN DO TO KIND OF ASSIST THAT.

BUT THAT'S JUST THE POINT OF THE DEAL.

NO, ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE RIGHT.

I MEAN, YOU NARROWED THE ISSUE DOWN NOW.

AND I IF I DIDN'T COMMENT FOR A SECOND, I THINK THAT, YEAH, IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING LAFCO TRADITIONAL RULES, YOU KNOW, YOU START FROM HERE AND YOU WORK YOUR WAY OUT.

BUT THE U.S.

IS A UNIQUE DEAL AND THEY'VE GOT SPECIAL LEGISLATION THAT ALLOWS FOR IT.

BUT WHAT'S INTERESTING IS, IS THAT ONCE THE U.S.

GETS ANNEXED, THEN NOW THAT BECOMES PART OF THE CITY LIMITS.

SO NOW YOU CAN START ANNEXING ADJACENTLY AROUND THERE.

SO IT'LL BE INTERESTING, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'LL COME BEFORE THIS COMMISSION AND, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WILL HAVE TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FOLLOWING ALL THE RULES. AND WE GET WE GET TO TAKE A STAB AT IT.

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SO SPEAKING ABOUT IT, I THINK THE UC REGENTS GAVE THEIR APPROVAL TOWARDS IT, SO.

OH, VERY GOOD. IT'S COMING.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT.

THAT CONCLUDES YOUR COMMENTS.

THAT WAS JUST. YEAH.

AND I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ON THE COUNTY SIDE, YOU KNOW, WE DEAL WITH THE THE URBAN GROWTH HAPPENS IN THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE SEWER AND WATER.

SO THE DEL HAI IS A MARS AND LA GRANDE'S AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF THERE'S BEEN COMMUNITY PLAN UPDATES BY THE COUNTY, BUT IT HASN'T LED TO ANY IMMEDIATE GROWTH.

AND THE MAIN REASON IS THE CAPACITY.

IT'S EITHER SEWER OR WATER AND SOMETIMES BOTH THAT THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS HAVE LIMITATIONS ON.

SO WE DON'T WE'RE NOT ANTICIPATING A LOT OF ANNEXATIONS FROM THESE SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

HOWEVER, RIGHT NOW, JUST THERE'S A LOT OF TIME BEING SPENT ON ON MY TIME AND COORDINATING THE GIS PEOPLE DOWNSTAIRS ON CONFIRMING THE BOUNDARIES OF THESE URBAN SPECIAL DISTRICTS FOR ELECTIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO DO THE ELECTION.

AND THEY'RE THEY'RE MAKING A VERY THOROUGH REVIEW OF ALL THE DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

SO WE'RE WE'RE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME VALIDATING HISTORICAL MAPS TO TO CONFIRM THERE'S.

YES, AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT THAT UP.

YEAH, THAT'S A PRETTY MASSIVE UNDERTAKING THAT OUR REGISTRAR OF VOTERS IS TAKING NOW AFTER WHAT WE FOUND IN THE LAST ELECTION, REALLY DOING A DEEP DIVE AND BASICALLY MODERNIZING THE SYSTEM, HAVING THE GIS FOLKS WHERE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LINES THAT COULD BE OFF, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD VERSUS THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROAD.

AND THAT CHANGES WHETHER A PERSON GETS TO VOTE IN ONE DISTRICT OR NOT.

AND SO LITERALLY, THERE'S BEEN A DEEP DIVE TO GO THROUGH AND, YOU KNOW, STARTING OBVIOUSLY.

STATE FEDERAL DISTRICTS, THEN DOWN TO THE COUNTY SUPERVISORIAL DISTRICTS, TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR DISTRICTS AND SCHOOL BOARD DISTRICTS.

AND THEN SO IT REALLY DOING A DEEP DIVE.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO END UP WITH A REALLY GREAT PRODUCT AT THE END.

AND I THINK THE ONE NICE THING ABOUT IT, THE WAY THAT I UNDERSTAND IT, IS, IS AS WE'RE BRINGING THIS STUFF UP WITH MODERN TECHNOLOGY, THE NEXT TIME WE GO THROUGH A CENSUS AND YOU KNOW, AND IT'S GOING TO BE A LOT EASIER TO CHANGE THEM, WE'RE I THINK OUR PROCESSES BEFORE IT WAS LITERALLY PEOPLE DRAWING LINES ON PAPER.

SO ANYWAYS, THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

YEAH. GREAT. AND THAT THAT COMPLETES MY.

OKAY. SO THAT CONCLUDES MR. NICHOLSON'S REPORT.

COMMISSIONER SERRATTO, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD, SIR? NO, SIR. ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER, I TOOK CARE OF COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

KIND OF, YEAH. NO, THANK YOU.

COMMISSIONER BERTAO. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, SO.

OH, GOOD QUESTION. WHEN'S THE NEXT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING, WHEN IS THERE WHAT'S THE DATE SUPPOSED TO BE FOR? I'M TRYING TO LOOK THE OTHER DAY, BUT I COULDN'T FIND MY LIST.

OKAY. THIRD THURSDAY, RIGHT? YES, THE THIRD THURSDAY.

SO IT'S GOING TO BE SEPTEMBER.

WE'RE NOT HAVING AN AUGUST MEETING.

RIGHT NOW WE DON'T HAVE ANY APPLICATIONS.

OKAY. OKAY. SO SO THE SEPTEMBER MEETING WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 21ST.

OKAY. SEPTEMBER 21ST.

GOTCHA. YEAH, I MIGHT GO FOR A THIRD OR FOURTH BECAUSE THIS IS THE..

COMMISSIONER BERTAO, Y.OU MIGHT HAVE TO YOU MIGHT HAVE TO.

. WELL, I'M LEAVING THE NEXT DAY FOR AN EXTENDED CRUISE..

SO YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO BE HERE.

I THINK I'LL TRY TO MAKE IT.

IF IT WAS, IT WAS GOING TO BE THE NEXT WEEK, I WOULDN'T BE HERE.

THE SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER 21ST.

I WILL NOT BE HERE, SO I'LL JUST PUT THAT OUT THERE AND I AND I CAN I'M I SHOULD BE HERE.

NONE OF THE COUNTY FOLKS, I BELIEVE, WILL BE HERE.

THAT'S THE RCRC ANNUAL MEETING.

WELL, IS THERE ANY INTEREST IN MOVING THAT TO SEPTEMBER 14TH? I DON'T CARE AVAILABLE.

BUT YOU COULD MAKE WE COULD CONFIRM IT IF YOU WANT TO TAKE A VOTE TO MOVE IT TO THE 14TH.

YEAH, YOU COULD DO THAT NOW AND THEN WE'LL CONFIRM IF THE IS AVAILABLE.

MAKE THAT PART OF YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER SERRATTO.

WOULD BE THE OCTOBER MEETING WOULD TYPICALLY BE THE 19TH, WHICH IS THE SAME AS THE CONFERENCE OR THE SAME WEEK AS THE CONFERENCE.

YEAH. SO WE'LL DISCUSS THAT AS WELL.

OKAY. THE 21ST? YEAH, THE 21ST, WE HAVE A LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE TOO.

CAN WE COMBINE SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER ON THE AGENDA? YEAH, IT'S YEAH, IT'S PARTIALLY DRIVEN BY THE APPLICATION DRIVEN BY THE APPLICATIONS WE MIGHT RECEIVE.

BUT WE COULD CAN ANTICIPATE TOO.

SO THIS IS WHAT I'M THINKING WE SHOULD DO.

MR. NIXON IS, IS LET'S KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR THE NEXT TIME WE MEET THAT WE MIGHT WE MAY NEED TO POSTPONE IT.

WE'LL MAYBE HAVE A BETTER IDEA OF WHETHER THERE'S APPLICATIONS OR NOT.

POSTPONE, CANCEL, MOVE THE OCTOBER MEETING, SEEING HOW IT'S ACTUALLY GOING TO FALL DURING THE CAL LAFCO CONFERENCE.

BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE WILL OBVIOUSLY HAVE TO CHECK AVAILABILITY OF THE ROOM, BUT MOVE THE SEPTEMBER 21ST MEETING

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YEAH, THE 21ST IS THAT'S THE LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE, I'LL BE AT THAT.

I'LL SECOND THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE I DON'T THINK I KNOW THE COUNTY FOLKS WILL ALL BE AT RCRC AND SO WE'RE LIMITING OUR NUMBERS.

SO IF WE GO AHEAD AND I MADE THAT MOTION AND WE HAD A.

OKAY. YEAH. SO THE MEETING DATE, WE DIDN'T AGENDIZE THAT.

SO HOW ABOUT THIS? MY BOARD MEMBER.

I'M GOING TO DO A COMMISSIONER, I THINK.

HOW ABOUT HOW ABOUT IF IT'S THE CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE TO MOVE THE MEETING? I DON'T THINK IT IS. YEAH.

WHAT DID WE DO WRONG? WE MAY BE ABLE TO COORDINATE HIS PARTICIPATION VIA ZOOM BECAUSE IF HE'S ATTENDING A CONFERENCE, IF HE'S AVAILABLE, IF HE'S ATTENDING A CONFERENCE FOR LIKE THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, I DON'T KNOW IF HE HAS ANY INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING IN THAT MANNER.

IT'S IT'S, IT'S TOUGH.

JUST BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR I DON'T KNOW WHAT MY SCHEDULE IS LIKE YET.

SO THEN MAYBE WE JUST NEED TO HAVE AN AUGUST MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE, HAVE AN AUGUST MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE FUTURE POTENTIAL DATE CHANGES.

YEAH, WE COULD DO THAT.

OKAY. I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THAT'S THE WAY IT'S GOING TO KEEP US OUT OF TROUBLE WITH THE ATTORNEYS.

SO QUIET, RANDY.

SO. SO WITH MOTIONS WITHDRAWN, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT THAT RIGHT NOW.

BUT MR. NICHOLSON I'M GOING TO TAKE CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE TO DIRECT THAT WE HAVE AN AUGUST MEETING TO DISCUSS THESE FUTURE MEETINGS.

RIGHT. OKAY. WITH THAT? THAT'S FINE. YES, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT.

PERFECT. WELL, WITH THAT, THERE ARE NO FURTHER COMMENTS.

WE'RE GOING TO ADJOURN THIS MEETING.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

OKAY, GREAT. OKAY.

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