Aug 18, 2022 LAFCO Meeting

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MEETING TO ORDER IT IS 10:02 AND I WILL ASK COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL, OUR CURRENT CAL LAFCO MEMBER, BOARD MEMBER, TO LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

[I. CALL MEETING TO ORDER]

I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

WE WILL HAVE THE ROLL CALL OF COMMISSIONERS.

ALL RIGHT. SO AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.

THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT.

[IV. CONSENT CALENDAR]

ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WE HAVE THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE JUNE 16TH, 2022 MEETING.

CHAIR WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

ANYBODY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WISH TO COMMENT ON THIS ITEM? NOTHING FROM THE DAIS.

WE'LL CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

ITEM FIVE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION.

TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO 5 MINUTES OR LESS PER PERSON.

PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION ON ITEMS OF INTEREST OR OVER WHICH THE LOCAL AREA FORMATION COMMISSION HAS JURISDICTION, NOT SEEING ANYBODY.

WE WILL DISPENSE WITH THE CITIZENS COMMUNICATION AND MOVE ON TO ITEM SIX.

[VI.A. Barcellos et al Annexation to the Central California Irrigation District (CCID) – LAFCo File No. 0693 ]

ITEM SIX A THE BARCELLOS ET AL ANNEXATION TO THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA IRRIGATION DISTRICT.

CCID LAFCO FILE NUMBER 0693, AND WE WILL TURN IT OVER TO MR. NICHOLSON. YEAH I HAVE A POWERPOINT FOR THIS.

[INAUDIBLE] YEAH.

AGAIN, THIS IS AN ANNEXATION TO THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA IRRIGATION DISTRICT OR THE CCID, AS WE CALL IT.

THE REQUEST IS TO ANNEX TWO PARCELS THAT ARE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER THAT [INAUDIBLE] TWO AREAS CONTAINING AND A PORTION OF A THIRD PARCEL CONTAINING 164.4 ACRES INTO CCID.

AND THE PURPOSE IS TO REPLACE THEIR CLASS TWO IRRIGATION WATER WITH CLASS ONE WATER ON THE PROPERTY.

AND THIS IS A REGIONAL MAP OF PART OF CCID, THE STANISLAUS EXCUSE ME, THE MERCED AND THE FRESNO PORTIONS IN THE STANISLAUS AREN'T IN THERE, BUT THE BLUE STAR AND ABOUT THE CENTER OF THE MAP IS GENERALLY WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED, SOUTH OF LOS BANOS AND WEST OF DOS PALOS, BUT IN A VERY RURAL AREA OF THE COUNTY. YOU CAN SEE I-5 TO THE WEST.

AND THIS IS AN AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE TWO AREAS TO THE LEFT.

THE WESTERN AREA IS TWO PARCELS AND THE RIGHT AREA IS A 40 ACRE PORTION OF A 120 ACRE PARCEL.

THAT'S THE REST OF THE PROPERTIES ON THE NORTH SIDE.

AND THEY THE TAN AREA, [INAUDIBLE] CCID BOUNDARY.

SO YOU'LL SEE THE 40 ACRE BLOCK IN BETWEEN THESE TWO RED HIGHLIGHTED PARCELS IS ALREADY EXCUSE ME, IT'S ALREADY WITHIN CCID.

SO THIS WOULD MAKE A LONG CONTIGUOUS BOUNDARY OF THE DISTRICT IN THIS AREA.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE TO THE EAST IS MOSTLY THE AREA OF THE CCID INSIDE AND IT GOES INTO SOME WETLAND AND [INAUDIBLE] CLUB AREAS.

AND THIS IS THE FORMAL ANNEXATION MAP.

SO IT SHOWS THE PROPERTIES HIGHLIGHTED AND THIS IS WHAT WOULD GET RECORDED FOLLOWING THE ANNEXATION.

SO IN TERMS OF REVIEW, THE CCID DETERMINED THAT THE PROJECT, THE ANNEXATION WAS CATEGORICALLY EXEMPT FROM ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER TWO SECTIONS 15061, WHICH IS CAN BE SEEN WITH CERTAINTY THERE'S NO POSSIBILITY THE PROJECT COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT EFFECT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.

AND THEN 15319 IS ANNEXATIONS OF EXISTING FACILITIES, WHICH ARE SPECIFICALLY CCID IRRIGATION FACILITIES.

AND THAT'S THE CASE WHERE YOU'RE YOU'RE PUTTING FARMLAND IN A DISTRICT, BUT THE FARMLAND IS ALREADY THERE.

SO THERE'S NO PHYSICAL CHANGE TO THE ENVIRONMENT.

YOU'RE JUST GOING TO KEEP KEEP FARMING AND HAVE A BETTER, A BETTER, MORE SECURE WATER SUPPLY.

SO SO THE COMMISSION AND YOUR ROLE FOR THE ANNEXATION CAN RELY ON THAT DETERMINATION,

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SO THAT'S VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD.

SO IN TERMS OF THE EVALUATION AND ANALYSIS FOR THE ANNEXATION, WE ARE LOOKING AT SECTION 56668 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE.

AND ALSO WE INTERPRET FOR RURAL TYPE ANNEXATION LIKE THIS RURAL SERVICES, WE HAVE HIGHLIGHTED A MORE DEFINED, NARROWER SCOPE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE URBAN GROWTH ISSUES INVOLVED.

SO THE FIRST IS EFFECT ON DISTRICT SERVICES.

AND AGAIN, THIS AREA IS GETTING CLASS TO WATER FROM CCID.

SO THE CCID FACILITIES ARE THERE AND THEY'RE CONVERTING IT TO CLASS ONE WATER RIGHTS, WHICH IS A YOU GET THE SAME RIGHT AS ANY OTHER LAND WITHIN CCID. AND IF THERE'S A GOOD YEAR, YOU GET THE FULL ALLOTMENT.

IF THERE'S A BAD YEAR, YOU'LL GET LESS, BUT YOU'LL GET THE SAME AS ANYBODY ELSE.

IN CLASS TWO, YOU'RE THERE COULD BE YEARS WHEN YOU DON'T GET ANY WATER AND THE COST IS IS HIGHER.

SO AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ABLE TO GET THIS CLASS ONE WATER THROUGH PURCHASED THROUGH A PROCESS FOR THIS THE DISTRICT, AS LAND GETS DETACHED, THEY HOLD THAT WATER AND THEN THEY DO AN AUCTION AND THE HIGHEST BIDDER GETS GETS THOSE RIGHTS. IF THEY HAVE LAND THAT QUALIFIES AND THEY CAN ANNEX OR EXCUSE ME, UPGRADE TO CLASS ONE WATER RIGHTS.

CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE DISTRICT SPHERE.

AND SO THIS IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.

THE SECOND BULLET IS THAT THE LAND IS DESERT AGRICULTURAL AND THE COUNTY'S GENERAL PLAN, THERE'S ACTUALLY A ONE ZONING ON THE WESTERN AREA AND THE EASTERN PARCELS IN A TWO ZONE, WHICH HAS A LARGER MINIMUM PARCEL SIZE.

BUT THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE IS A LITTLE PROBLEMATIC FOR CCID.

AND IF THE COMMISSION KNOWS THAT OUR LAST MEETING IN JUNE, WE ADOPTED THE AGRICULTURAL IRRIGATION PROVIDERS.

MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW COVERING ALL THE AGRICULTURAL IRRIGATION DISTRICTS AND ALSO GRASSLANDS, WHICH ISN'T REALLY FOR AG, BUT WE ANALYZED ALL OF THOSE WITH CCID. THERE'S A LOT OF INCONSISTENT BOUNDARY DATA AREAS BECAUSE IT GOES TO THREE COUNTIES AND YOU HAVE A LOT OF CITIES.

THERE'S AREAS THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DETACHED TO THE CITY ANNEX AND THEY BUILT SUBDIVISIONS.

AND SOME AREAS HAVE BEEN SOME AREAS WERE APPROVED, BUT THEY WEREN'T RECORDED.

AND SO THE ASSESSOR SOME CASES SHOWS PROPERTY OUT OF THE DISTRICT, BUT THE STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION SHOWS THAT IT'S IN.

SO WE WHEN WE DID THE MSR, SINCE WE WERE DOING ALL THE AG DISTRICTS, WE DIDN'T WANT TO GET BOGGED DOWN WITH CCIDS MAPPING ISSUES.

SO WE, WE TOOK THE BEST INFORMATION WE HAD AND USE THAT IN THE DOCUMENT.

BUT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH OUR COUNTY GIS GEOGRAPHIC INFORMATION SYSTEM STAFF, AND THEY HAVE ALL THE ACCESS TO ALL THE LAYERS OF DATA.

AND THEY'RE GETTING THEY'RE GETTING IT FROM THE ADJACENT COUNTIES, FROM, OF COURSE, THE ASSESSOR'S OFFICE, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS.

IF YOU'RE IN CCID, YOU'RE ON THE TAX, THEY GET A SHARE OF THAT 1% PROPERTY TAX.

SO YOU HAVE TO BE ON THE ASSESSOR'S MAP OR YOU DON'T HAVE TO BE YOU SHOULD BE ON THE ASSESSOR'S MAP.

IF YOU'RE IN THE DISTRICT AND IF YOU'RE IN THE DISTRICT AND YOU'RE NOT ON THE ASSESSOR'S MAP, THEN THERE'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE THE PAPERWORK DIDN'T GET DONE RIGHT OR THERE'S THERE'S AN ERROR SOMEWHERE. AND THEN THE OTHER PART IS THE STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION CREATES THE TAX RATE AREAS THAT SHOW ALL THE TAXING ENTITIES ON ANY GIVEN PARCEL. AND THE ASSESSOR USES THAT DATA FOR THEIR ASSESSOR'S MAPS.

AND THERE'S A CONFLICT EVEN IN THERE.

THE STATE'S RECORDS COMPARED TO THE ASSESSOR'S RECORDS IN IN THE THREE COUNTIES, SAID FRESNO AND STANISLAUS.

AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, IF YOU'RE IN CCID, YOU GET TO VOTE FOR THE CCID BOARD.

SO LEXIS HAS BOUNDARY MAPS.

AND THE FORTUNATE THING IS, IS OUR GIS TEAM IN MERCED DOES THOSE MAPS FOR THE COUNTY ELECTIONS DONE IN MERCED AND THEY CAN GET ACCESS TO THE OTHER LAYERS.

SO WE HAVE AREAS THAT ARE SHOWING THE ELECTIONS THAT PEOPLE SHOULD BE VOTING FOR CCID, BUT THE OTHER MAPS DON'T SHOW THEM IN THE DISTRICT, SO THEY SHOULD BE VOTING AND OTHER AREAS THAT THE CONVERSE SO IT'S A BIG A BIG COMPLEX AREA TO RESOLVE AND FIX AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON THAT COOPERATIVELY WITH WITH MARIA HERE FROM THE DISTRICT AND THEIR TEAM AND THEN GETTING INFORMATION AGAIN FROM OUR NEIGHBORING LAFCO OR HELPING PUT THAT TOGETHER.

SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE.

SO WHEN, WHEN WE'VE HAD PAST ANNEXATIONS TO THE CCID AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SPHERE, CCID HAS PRETTY MUCH CONSIDERED THAT THEIR CLASS TWO AREA, IT WOULD BE WITHIN THEIR SPHERE IF YOU'RE ELIGIBLE FOR THAT.

BUT WE DIDN'T EVER TAKE THAT AS A AS A MAP AMENDMENT TO OUR COMMISSION, AS A AS A SPHERE.

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BUT THERE'S GAPS THAT THERE'S NO DISTRICT TERRITORY IN BETWEEN OTHER AREAS OF TERRITORY, AND THEN THEY SURROUND PROPERTIES THAT AREN'T WITHIN THE DISTRICT.

AND SO HISTORICALLY WE PUT THOSE IN IN THE SPHERE THINKING THEY WOULD BE ANNEXED SOMEDAY.

BUT TALKING WITH MARIA HERE, THE SOME OF THOSE AREAS WOULD BE IN CITY LIMITS AND THEY DON'T WANT TO ANNEX THEM AND PUT THEM IN THE DISTRICT.

SO THEY SHOULDN'T REALLY BE IN THE SPHERE BECAUSE A SPHERE WOULD BE AN AREA THAT YOU'RE GOING TO ANNEX IN THE FUTURE OR YOU COULD ANNEX IN THE FUTURE.

AND SO THE CLASS TWO BOUNDARY WOULD BE THE BEST BOUNDARY.

SO SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS WE'LL WORK ON DEFINING THAT CLASS TWO BOUNDARY AS WE DO THIS VALIDATION PROCESS.

SO WE'LL KNOW WITHIN THAT SPHERE WHAT'S IN THE DISTRICT AND WHAT'S OUT OF THE DISTRICT.

AND WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE END.

ALL OF WHETHER YOU'RE IN OR NOT ARE RECORDED DOCUMENTS EVERY EVERYTHING THAT GETS ANNEXED TO RECORD A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION.

AND IF YOU DETACH LAND WHICH WHICH THAT HAPPENS A LOT FROM CCID, THEN YOU RECORD A CERTIFICATE OF COMPLETION THAT HAS BEEN DETACHED AND YOU FILE IT WITH THE STATE.

SO IF THERE'S NO RECORD OF DOCUMENT AND FOR EXAMPLE, SAY ELECTION SAYS HERE'S 40 ACRES, IT'S IN THE DISTRICT, BUT THERE'S NO RECORD THAT IT WAS EVER ANNEXED THAT WAS RECORDED.

THEN WE WOULD BASE OUR DETERMINATION THAT IT'S NOT IN THE DISTRICT AND WE WILL TELL ELECTIONS, OF COURSE, BUT THERE'S NO HISTORY OF THAT EVER BEING ANNEXED.

AND HOW DID IT HAPPEN? HOW DID AGAIN, THE DISTRICT IT DIDN'T COME THROUGH LAFCO.

SO SO AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO AT THE END OF THIS PROCESS.

AND SO WE'LL BRING ALL THAT TOGETHER.

SO FOR PURPOSES LIKE THIS, WHEN WE'RE DEALING WITH SIMPLE ANNEXATIONS OF CLASS TWO LAND THAT ARE ALREADY GETTING CCID WATER WHERE IT'S AVAILABLE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUMP THROUGH A BUNCH OF HOOPS TO TRY TO CREATE A NEW SPHERE AT THIS POINT AND JUST ASSUME THAT IT IS IN CLOSE ENOUGH BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING CCID WATER AND JUST TREAT IT AS A STRAIGHT FORWARD ANNEXATION.

SO. SO WE HAVEN'T REALLY DELVED INTO IT THIS MUCH PREVIOUS ANNEXATIONS TO CCID AND WE IT'S BECAUSE WE'RE DOING THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE REVIEW UPDATE THAT WE UNCOVERED ALL THIS INCONSISTENCY.

SO WE'RE WE'RE GOING TO BE ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THAT.

AND ONE LAST THING I SHOULD SAY IS THAT THE GIS TEAM FROM THE COUNTY WILL WANT TO BUILD LAFCO FOR THAT WORK.

SO WE HAVE A WE HAVE SOME MONEY IN OUR BUDGET FOR THE INFORMATION SERVICES IS OF THE COUNTY AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN SHIFT SOME OF THAT MONEY OVER TO THAT. PART OF THAT MONEY IS FOR BROADCASTING THIS MEETING.

WE PAY FOR THAT, BUT WE NEVER USE IT ALL.

WE DON'T HAVE MEETINGS ALL YEAR AND WE DON'T.

OUR MEETINGS ARE VERY QUICK.

SO ANYWAY, WE'LL SEE IF IT INVOLVES ANY KIND OF BUDGET TRANSFER THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE FOR THAT.

SO MOVING ON FROM THAT SPHERE ISSUE, A CONFORMANCE WITH LINES OF ASSESSMENT, AGAIN, USUALLY YOU WANT TO FOLLOW PARCEL LINES FOR ANNEXATIONS, BUT IN THIS CASE, THE KEY IS THAT THERE'S ONLY SO MUCH WATER AVAILABLE AND THERE'S 120 ACRE PARCEL ON THE EAST SIDE AND THERE'S ONLY ENOUGH WATER FOR 40 ACRES OF IT.

SO THE THE THERE'S NO REQUIREMENT THAT THE LAND BE DIVIDED.

THE WHOLE LAND'S BEING FARMED AND THEY'RE USING CLASS TWO WATER.

SO 40 ACRES OF IT WILL IN THE PROPOSAL HERE WOULD GET ANNEXED TO CCID AND IT'S STILL ONE LEGAL PARCEL FOR FOR PLANNING AND FOR SALE PURPOSES PLANNING, LAND USE PERMITTING AND ZONING.

BUT WHEN IT COMES TO ASSESSOR, THE ASSESSOR WILL CREATE A NEW ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NUMBER FOR THAT 40 ACRES AND THAT THAT WILL BE A IN THE TAX RATE AREA THAT HAS CCID ON IT WHERE THE NORTHERN 80 ACRES WILL NOT.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF PARCELS LIKE THAT THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY THAT HAVE ONE LEGAL PARCEL AS MULTIPLE APMS BECAUSE OF DIFFERENT DISTRICT BOUNDARIES.

AND IT'S NOT IT'S NOT ILLEGAL.

IT'S NOT THE THE GREATEST THING, BUT THERE'S NO REAL IMPACT BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAND, IT'S ALL BEING FARMED TOGETHER.

YOU'D NEVER KNOW THAT THAT THERE'S A SEPARATE ASSESSOR OF PARCEL.

MAINTENANCE OF AGRICULTURAL LANDS.

THE CCID ADOPTED A RESOLUTION 22-22.4 FOR SUPPORTING THIS ANNEXATION AND DIRECTING THE APPLICATION SUBMITTAL TO LAFCO.

AND THEY'RE THEY'RE SAYING IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THEIR POLICY ON RIGHTS TO USE CCID WATER, WHICH IS IN THIS CASE, THE PURPOSE IS TO SECURE THE MORE PERMANENT IRRIGATION WATER FOR LANDS AND SUPPORT THE LONG TERM AGRICULTURAL USE.

SO IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE'VE LOOKING AT THE SOIL MAPS THAT THE PROPERTY IS CONSIDERED UNIQUE FARMLAND OR DESIGNATED UNIQUE ON THE STATE IMPORTANT FARMLAND

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AND THAT'S QUALIFIED AS A PRODUCTIVE SOIL UNDER THE STATE'S DEFINITION.

SO IT'S DEFINITELY GOOD FARM GROUND, EVEN IF IT'S NOT PRIOR, BUT IT'S STILL PRODUCTIVE.

AND THEN THE NEXT CATEGORY IS SOCIAL AND ECONOMIC INTERESTS AFFECTING THE PROPOSAL.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S NO THERE'S NO OTHER IRRIGATION DISTRICTS IN THE AREA, AND THEY'RE GOING TO CONVERT FROM CLASS TWO TO CLASS ONE.

SO THERE'S NO THERE'S NO COMPETING INTEREST HERE FROM SOME OTHER ENTITY AND UNDER SPECIAL CONSIDERATIONS FOR DETACHMENTS THAT THEY AREN'T DETACHING ANY LAND WITH ITS APPLICATION. SOME OF THE WATER RIGHTS CAME FROM DETACHMENTS, BUT THIS DOESN'T INVOLVE THAT.

SO THERE'S NO ISSUE THERE.

SO BASED EXCUSE ME, BASED ON THAT ANALYSIS, WE RECOMMEND YOU MAKE THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATION ON PAGE FOUR OF THE EXECUTIVE OFFICERS REPORT, WHICH AGAIN, THAT THE ANNEXATION IS IT QUALIFIES FOR CATEGORICAL EXEMPTION FROM CEQA AND THEN MAKE THE SEVEN PROJECT DETERMINATIONS ON PAGES FOUR AND FIVE OF THE EXECUTIVE OFFICERS REPORT AND ASSIGN THE ANNEXATION.

THE SHORT FORM DESIGNATION IS THE PARCELS AT ALL ANNEXATION TO THE CENTRAL CALIFORNIA IRRIGATION DISTRICT AND APPROVE THE ANNEXATION AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO COMPLETE PROCEEDINGS WITHOUT FURTHER NOTICE, HEARING OR ELECTION.

SO WE DO HAVE A PETITION SIGNED BY ALL THE LANDOWNERS AND THAT CONCLUDES THE PRESENTATION.

ALL RIGHT. BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING, DOES ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY COMMENTS? NOT A QUESTION. COMMISSIONER BERTAO.

YEAH. HOW COME, YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU HAVE THE DETERMINATIONS AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, WHY IS C ON PAGE FIVE DOWN BELOW WHERE IT SAYS ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATIONS, WHY IS THAT ON THERE AGAIN? IS THAT FOR THE SECOND PARCEL OR OR WHAT? FROM PAGE FIVE ON TO ONTO PAGE SIX.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? YEAH. UNDER C.

SO WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHEN IT GOES TO C AND THEN IF YOU APPROVE C ONE AND TWO, AND THEN THE NEXT LINE SAYS, IF THE COMMISSION AGREES WITH THE FOREGOING STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS REQUIRED ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE PROJECT, AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATIONS AND THEN THE PROJECT DETERMINATIONS.

YEAH, I MEAN THEY ALREADY DID.

YOU ALREADY DID THAT ON PAGE FOUR, RIGHT? OKAY. YEAH, I SEE WHAT I THINK I WAS DOING HERE IN BOTH SINCE THAT'S HOW BOLDFACE TYPE WAS A SHORTCUT FOR MAKING A MOTION FOR THE, FOR THE COMMISSION MAKING THE MOTION.

BUT IT'S REPETITIVE OF THE ACTUAL TEXT YEAH, IT WAS REALLY FOR HELPING MAKE THE MOTIONS.

THAT'S WHAT I KIND OF THOUGHT. BUT I JUST WANTED CLARITY.

ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER BERTAO, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT.

MICROPHONE ON. UH, NOT SEEING ANY MORE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING AT LET'S SEE AT 10:21.

AND WE HAVE WITH US MARIA SEQUEIRA FROM CCID.

HOLD ON. [INAUDIBLE] I THINK YOU'RE ON.

OKAY. GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE.

I'M HERE IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO HELP YOU, BILL DID AN EXCELLENT JOB.

AND ACTUALLY WHAT YOU MENTIONED ABOUT THE ELECTIONS.

I HAVE A MEETING AFTER TODAY.

AFTER THE MEETING HERE.

AFTER YOUR MEETING.

I HAVE A MEETING WITH THEM BECAUSE AS YOU WERE SAYING, OUR DISTRICT, THERE IS THERE ARE HOLES OF WHAT WE CALL NO MAN'S LAND.

AND UNLESS, YOU KNOW CCID AND HOW THE DISTRICT IS, IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ANYONE TO REALLY THINK, OH, WELL, THIS IS ALL PART OF THE DISTRICT AND THEY WOULD INCLUDE THOSE HOLES.

AND YESTERDAY 4:30, I GOT A CALL FROM THE ELECTIONS OFFICE.

WELL, WE HAVE A PROBLEM.

WE HAVE THESE THIS LAND THAT'S IN CCID.

BUT YOU'RE NOT SHOWING IT IN YOUR GIS LAYER.

WELL, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S NOT IN CCID.

SO WE'RE GETTING TOGETHER WITH THEM.

I'M GETTING TOGETHER WITH THEM THIS MORNING AFTER OUR MEETINGS.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, MARIA.

ALL RIGHT. I DON'T SEE ANYBODY ELSE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT, SO WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AT 10:22.

ALL RIGHT. WE WILL NOW BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

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COMMISSIONER BERTAO.

I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MARCELLUS ANNEXATION TO THE CCID WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ALL THE ENVIRONMENTAL DETERMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MET.

ANNEXATION DETERMINATIONS HAVE BEEN MET THAT HAD BEEN THAT HAD BEEN DESIGNATED BARCELLO SAID ANNEXATION TO CCID IN ACCORDANCE WITH [INAUDIBLE]. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER BERTAO.

IS THERE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER ESPINOSA.

NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS.

SEEING NO ONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WANTS TO SPEAK.

WE WILL CALL FOR THE QUESTION.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

THOSE OPPOSED NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. ONE QUICK COMMENT ON IT, MARIE, IS IS I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT CCID REALLY, YOU KNOW, WITH COMMENTS THAT THAT MR. NICHOLSON MADE IN REALLY GETTING THOSE LINES CLEANED UP AND BECAUSE WE ALL UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS THAT IF YOU END UP WITH CCID PROPERTY WITHIN A CITY LIMITS, YOU CREATE A BUNCH OF A WHOLE OTHER GROUP OF VOTERS THAT WILL BE DETERMINING YOUR BOARD. AND THEN I AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE REASON WHY WHEN YOU ANNEX WHEN THE CITY ANNEX IS PROPERTY THAT PREVIOUSLY HAD CCID RIGHTS, WHY THEY WANT THEM DETACH BECAUSE YOU HAVE NOW FOLKS THAT HAVE THAT KNOW NOTHING ABOUT AN IRRIGATION DISTRICT WHO WILL BE VOTING FOR YOUR BOARD OF DIRECTORS.

AND AND I KNOW THAT IT'S KIND OF, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASONS, I WASN'T THERE THAT YOU HAVE THESE I KNOW SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT IN LOS BANOS, THERE'S THERE'S THERE'S PROPERTY THAT'S IN THE CITY LIMITS THAT STILL HAS WATER RIGHTS.

LUCKY FOR YOU GUYS, MOST OF THOSE ARE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES AND NOT RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES.

SO JUST THINK ABOUT HOW MANY HOUSES YOU COULD FIT IN A SHOPPING CENTER.

THOSE WOULD ALL BECOME VOTERS.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE THE TIME.

AND I KNOW THAT THERE'S MAYBE POTENTIALLY SOME COSTS THAT ARE GOING TO BE HAVE TO BE BORNE BY LAFCO TO WORK WITH THE WITH OUR GIS FOLKS AT THE COUNTY.

BUT I THINK FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, IT MIGHT BE A CONVERSATION THAT WE WANT TO HAVE WITH CCID THAT IF THOSE COSTS BECOME TOO MUCH FOR OUR BUDGET TO HANDLE, I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE AND YOU COULD MAYBE PASS THIS ALONG TO YOUR EXECUTIVE OFFICER OVER THERE IN BOARD MEMBERS THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN BECAUSE IT REALLY WOULD BENEFIT THEM.

WE'VE ACTUALLY HAVE A REAL FACE THIS FOR THE REASON THAT YOU JUST SAID, WE DO HAVE QUITE A BIT IN THE IN THE CITY OF LOS BANOS.

SORRY, APRIL. WE HAVE SOME DUST PALACE.

WE HAVE IN FIREBALL.

WE HAVE IN GUSTINE WHICH BILL REMEMBERS WHEN GUSTINE WAS TRYING TO BRING IN ACTUALLY PART OF THIS LAND THAT WE GOT THE WATER RIGHTS FROM.

WE ASKED THEM TO CLEAN UP, AND THAT'S PART OF IT.

I JUST CAME ACROSS ONE THAT IT'S BEING HAPPENING IN LOS BANOS THAT I THOUGHT, HOW IN THE WORLD IS THAT IN CCID AND STILL IN THE CITY.

WELL WAS FROM GOD KNOWS WHEN SO WE DECIDED MILLER AND LUX WAS THERE BEFORE THE CITY.

SO WE WERE THERE FIRST.

SO THE CITY SHOULD HAVE CLEANED UP.

BUT GOING OVER THAT, I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE STATE BOARD OF EQUALIZATION.

I HAVE A GENTLEMAN THERE THAT HE IS VERY WILLING TO HELP US WITH ALL OF THIS.

I'VE GOTTEN TOGETHER WITH THE CITY OF NEWMAN BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT PROBLEM IN THE CITY OF NEWMAN AS WELL.

I'VE SQUEAKED THAT I THINK I'VE RUN OUT OF OIL WITH THE CITY OF LOS BANOS.

I'M SURE THE CITY OF LOS BANOS IS GOING THROUGH FIREWORKS WHEN I RETIRE BECAUSE THEY'RE TIRED OF HEARING ME COMPLAINING.

BUT AND THE CITY OF GUSTINE IS WELL KNOWN THAT WHEN IT HAPPENS AGAIN, THEY ARE TO CLEAN UP THEIR ALL THOSE ISLANDS.

[INAUDIBLE] BUT SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I'VE DEALT.

WE'VE BEEN DEALING WITH ALL THE CITIES TRYING, LET'S GET THIS CLEANED UP.

THE STATE IS DOING WHERE THEY'RE CUTTING THE COSTS SO IT WILL NOT AFFECT SO MUCH.

THE CITIES NEED TO DO AN OVERALL APPLICATION WHERE OKAY, LET'S CLEAN THIS UP.

WE IDENTIFY THE AREAS.

LET'S CLEAN THIS UP.

LET'S GET IT DOWN. CCID HAS EVEN OFFERED TO HELP IF IT COMES TO A RECORDING FEE NEEDS TO HELP TO PAY FOR IT.

WE WILL DO IT. WE WANT TO GET THIS CLEARED UP BECAUSE IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR US.

IT'S A NIGHTMARE FOR THE ELECTIONS.

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BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD ONLY I COULD ONLY DO SO MUCH.

I COULD SPEAK I COULD SCREAM.

I COULD YELL.

I COULD BE NICE.

AND IT DOESN'T WORK.

SO WHEN WE COME TO LAFCO HERE IN MERCED, I'VE GONE TO STANISLAUS.

STANISLAUS LAFCO ALSO REQUEST THE CITY OF NEWMAN TO CLEAN UP THEIR ISLANDS.

WE'RE STILL IN THE SAME SPOT.

WELL, I DID. LIKE I SAID, I UNDERSTAND YOUR CHALLENGES, BUT JUST.

I THINK THAT IT'S.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

AND AND IF ON OUR END I'M LOOKING AT IT IS IS THIS THE WAY OUR LAFCO COMMISSION IS FUNDED? IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND THE SIX CITIES.

AND, YOU KNOW, SO EVERYBODY'S PAYING FOR IT.

SO THAT'S MY ANGLE ON IT IS IS IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT YOU.

WE'RE OBVIOUSLY GOING TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD AND TRY TO HELP AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

BUT BUT COSTS DON'T DON'T BE SHOCKED THAT IF IT'S MORE THAN OUR BUDGET CAN BEAR BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT WORK THAT WE MAY COME BACK AND I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF AND THAT WE SHOULD THAT YOU SHOULD HELP WITH IT BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO FIX NOT ONLY YOUR PROBLEM BUT BUT BUT OUR PROBLEM TOO.

SO AND I, I BELIEVE OUR BOARD IS AND THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT IT'S REALLY NOT OUR FAULT. IT'S THE CITY'S FAULT, BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES THAT DECIDED TO ANNEX INTO THE CITY WITHOUT DETACHING FROM CCID.

WHERE I WILL DISAGREE WITH YOU THERE IS IS THAT I THINK THAT IT'S BOTH OF OUR FAULTS BECAUSE THERE WAS THERE WAS THE I'VE BEEN AROUND THIS DEAL LONG ENOUGH TO KNOW THAT LIKE THERE WAS SOME OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE MAYBE COULD HAVE TAKEN IN THE PAST THAT COULD HAVE HELPED WITH THAT.

AND FOR WHATEVER REASON, THERE WASN'T AN APPETITE TO DO IT.

AND WE CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT THOSE THINGS.

I AGREE THAT, YOU KNOW, THE CITIES ARE ARE ANNEXING PROPERTY.

AND AND I KNOW THAT THIS COMMISSION HAS BEEN VERY RECEPTIVE TO THE IDEA OF SINCE I'VE BEEN ON IT, OF CAUSING THEM TO DETACH WHEN THEY ANNEX. NOW, WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE I WAS HERE AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE FOLLOW UP, LIKE THAT'S THE PART THAT I'M NOT NECESSARILY INVOLVED IN IS, IS, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE THINGS I THINK MAY HAVE BEEN DONE, BUT IF SOMEBODY DOESN'T RECORD IT, THEN IT IT DOESN'T EXIST.

EXACTLY. AND THAT SADLY DOES HAPPEN.

SO PERFECT.

BUT YES. AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO DO WHATEVER WE CAN TO GET IT ALL TAKEN CARE OF.

AND I'M SURE HOPE BEFORE BOTH OF US RETIRE.

PERFECT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU.

OKAY. MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN A GENERAL BUSINESS.

[VII.A. Upcoming CALAFCO Annual Conference, October 7 through 9, 2022, at the Hyatt Regency, Newport Beach – John Wayne Airport; along with announcement of upcoming CALAFCO-U Training Session Announcement for on-line session on Monday, September 19, 2022 titled: “Two Agencies in Dispute: LAFCo’s Role in Assisting in Resolving the Conflict”]

WE'LL TURN IT OVER TO MR. NICHOLSON. OKAY.

YEAH. SO THIS WILL BE THE FIRST IN-PERSON CAL LAFCO CONFERENCE SINCE THE COVID PANDEMIC STARTED.

THEY WERE VERY CLOSE TO IT LAST YEAR.

THEY TOOK REGISTRATION MONEY AND THEN THEY HAD TO BAIL OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE AND GIVE REFUNDS.

OR YOU COULD LEAVE THE MONEY ON FITTING FOR THIS YEAR'S.

SO AT THIS POINT, I THINK WE HAVE I'VE HEARD FROM THREE COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE GOING TO ATTEND MR. MCDANIEL AND ACTING CHAIR SILVEIRA AND RODRIGO, ARE YOU GOING? AND THEN CHAIR PUBLIC MEMBER BERTAO.

COMMISSIONER BERTAO YOU'RE GOING TOO RIGHT? YEAH. YEAH. OKAY, GOOD.

SEE YOU DOWN THERE.

WE ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS, SIR.

WE CAN'T AFFORD THOSE THINGS [INAUDIBLE].

IF WE HAD COMMISSIONER BERTAO'S MONEY, WE COULD AFFORD IT THEN.

SORRY, I DIGRESS.

OKAY, SO THAT'S IT RIGHT THERE.

IT JUST YEAH, IT WAS REALLY ABOUT THAT PART ABOUT THE UPCOMING CONFERENCE AND THEN THE THE CAL LAFCO U OR CAL LAFCO UNIVERSITY TRAINING SESSION IS AVAILABLE TO ANYONE TO JUST LOG ON.

YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE CAL LAFCO MEMBERS, SO IT'S IT'S FREE.

IT'S FREE TO TO EVERYBODY ANYWAY.

BUT THAT'S MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 19TH.

AND THAT'S WHAT THEY STARTED DOING FOR FREE WAS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T HAVE CONFERENCES.

CAL LAFCO WITH HOSTING THESE WEBINARS PERIODICALLY EARLIER THIS YEAR WE HAD OUR OUR COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL PROVIDE BE A

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SO YEAH, THEY'RE VERY WORTHWHILE AND EDUCATIONAL.

I MEAN, EACH ONE VARIES BY INTEREST FOR GIVE AN INDIVIDUAL OR A COMMISSIONER, BUT THEY'RE DEFINITELY WORTHWHILE AND THEY'RE FREE.

SO THAT'S HELPFUL.

PERFECT. AND THEN I WOULD JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, ENCOURAGE MY, MY COLLEAGUES THAT IF YOU'RE SO INTERESTED, JUMP ON ONE OF THOSE THAT PIQUES YOUR INTEREST AND BECOME A LITTLE BIT MORE. UH, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAYBE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL.

HAS THERE BEEN A BIG CHANGE GOING ON IN CAL LAFCO, EVEN ON, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU, YOU PROBABLY DIDN'T MEET IN PERSON EITHER FOR A LONG TIME OR THERE ARE DIFFERENT PERSONNEL OPERATING IT NOW AND AND SO ON AND SO FORTH THERE.

I HAVEN'T NOTICED I HAVEN'T NOTICED A BIG CHANGE YET, BUT I CAN I CAN SENSE IT COMING.

MM HMM. HOW ABOUT IN THE IN THE IN THE DIRECTORSHIP AND STUFF? LIKE. THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.

NO, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES.

THEY PAID EMPLOYEES OF CAL LAFCO, THOUGH.

IS IT STILL THE SAME THE SAME MANAGEMENT OR THEY HAVE DIFFERENT PEOPLE NOW OR DO WE HAVE A NEW DIRECTOR? YEAH, SHE'S ACTUALLY OUT OF MARIPOSA, A BOARD CLERK.

SHE'S THE BOARD CLERK OF MARIPOSA.

SHE'S VERY DETAILED AND VERY, VERY ORGANIZED.

AND I THINK SHE'S LEARNING HOW TO WORK WITH THE SPECIAL DISTRICT MEMBERS THAT ARE ON THE BOARD.

YEAH, ALWAYS FUN STUFF.

ALL RIGHT. MOVING ON TO ITEM SEVEN B, THIS IS BOARD OF DIRECTORS NOMINATIONS, APPOINTMENT OF VOTING, DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE FOR CAL LAFCO BOARD OF ELECTIONS

[VII.B. Board of Directors Nominations, Appointment of Voting Delegate and Alternate for the CALAFCO Board Elections and Related Business for the October 2022 CALAFCO Conference in Newport Beach. ]

SO I WOULD I WOULD, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO NOMINATE A VOTING MEMBER AND AN ALTERNATE AND SEEING HOW THERE'S I KNOW THREE OF US ARE GOING TO BE GOING.

I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE NOMINATE I WOULD NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BERTAO AS THE VOTING DELEGATE FOR CAL LAFCO AND I WOULD MAKE MY NOMINATION WOULD ALSO INCLUDE COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AS BEING THE ALTERNATE.

WOULD THERE BE A SECOND OUT THERE? SECOND? ANY COMMENTS, QUESTIONS? CONCERNS. [INAUDIBLE] IT'S A GREAT ORGANIZATION THAT WAY.

ALL RIGHT. SO NO COMMENT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER BERTAO AS THE VOTING MEMBER AND COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL AS THE ALTERNATE VOTING MEMBER, WITH NO FURTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU. THAT WORKED OUT PRETTY GOOD.

[INAUDIBLE] ALL RIGHT.

EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

[VIII. EXECUTIVE OFFICER AND COMMISSIONERS’ COMMENTS]

WE DID HAVE SOME ONE OTHER ITEM IN THE PACKET I'M LOOKING AT.

IF I DIDN'T, DID I MISS IT ON THE AGENDA? IT WAS TO SEE IF SOMEONE WANTED TO RUN FOR THE LAFCO BOARD, WHICH AGAIN OUR COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS ON THERE, BUT HIS TERM IS COMING UP AND DISCUSSION WITH HIM. HE'S NOT RUNNING AGAIN.

SO IT'S DIFFICULT IF YOU DON'T GO TO THE CONFERENCE IF YOU WANTED TO SERVE.

IT'S BETTER THAT YOU BE THERE BECAUSE THERE'S OTHER PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH YOUR YOUR BADGE AND YOUR LITTLE RIBBONS THAT THEY GIVE YOU.

AND PEOPLE ARE GIVING OUT CANDY AND TOYS AND THINGS TO TO TRY TO VOTE.

SO IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE AT THE CONFERENCE, THEN YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO RUN.

BUT FOR THOSE OF YOU OR IF YOU WANT TO RUN, YOU SAID YOU SHOULD GO TO THE CONFERENCE OR YOU WON'T HAVE MUCH CHANCE.

BUT IT IS OPEN RIGHT NOW.

IT'S OPEN FOR IN OUR CENTRAL REGION FOR THE COUNTY MEMBER AND THE DISTRICT MEMBERS.

AND WE DON'T HAVE SPECIAL DISTRICTS IN OUR LAFCO, SO WE CAN'T RUN FOR THAT.

OKAY. BUT I JUST WANTED TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY INTEREST IN DENOMINATION BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT AN APPLICATION FORM IN AND DO A LITTLE MINI RESUME.

OKAY. OKAY.

GET ON YOUR MICROPHONE [INAUDIBLE].

THANK YOU. SO I WOULDN'T MIND GOING IF YOU WANT ME TO.

I'LL BE GLAD TO TO RUN THAT.

OKAY. PERFECT. SO WE HAD WE HAVE INTEREST FROM COMMISSIONER ESPINOZA TO TO RUN FOR THE CENTRAL COUNTY SEAT.

YEAH. CENTRAL REGION.

CENTRAL REGION, COUNTY SEAT.

NOW DOES THAT REQUIRE A NOMINATION? AND SECOND, FROM THIS BOARD, YES, IT DOES.

SO I WOULD I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION SECONDED.

SO I HAVE A MOTION BY MYSELF AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER HOGUE TO NOMINATE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA FOR THE CENTRAL REGION COUNTY SEAT.

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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, AYE.

OPPOSED NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY.

CONGRATULATIONS, COMMISSIONER ESPINOSA.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

AND THEN, UM. I'M SURE YOU'LL WORK WITH COMMISSIONER ESPINOSA.

I'LL WORK WITH YOU. I HOPE YOU GET THE APPLICATION FORM A LITTLE BIO.

PERFECT. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE IT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY, SO NOW WE'RE WE'LL AGAIN MOVE ON TO THE EXECUTIVE OFFICER'S REPORT.

YEAH. SO THE RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF APPLICATIONS, BESIDES THE CCID APPLICATION, WE GOT A NEW WHICH YOU APPROVED TODAY.

WE GOT A NEW APPLICATION FROM THE CITY OF LOS BANOS FOR THE AM AMG ANNEXATION, WHICH IS AN OLD ANNEXATION FROM FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AGO FOR INDUSTRIAL PROPERTY ON THE NORTH WEST SIDE OF TOWN.

AND THERE WERE PROBLEMS WITH THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND I THINK PROBLEMS WITH SOME OF THE CITY'S POLICIES OR SOMETHING.

SO BUT IT DOES COME BACK AND I BELIEVE IT'S A 20 ACRE ANNEXATION OF GOOD FARMLAND, BUT IT'S SURROUNDED BY THE CITY ON THREE SIDES.

IT'S IT'S CITY ON THE THE WEST, THE SOUTH AND THE EAST.

AND I CAN'T STOP ON TOP OF MY HEAD.

I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ROAD RUNS EAST WEST.

BUT IT'S OVERLAND.

WHICH OVER OVERLAND.

SO OVERLAND. YEAH. SO IN THE PAPERWORK IT'LL TAKE A COUPLE OF MONTHS TO GET HERE SO IT WON'T BE IN HERE NEXT MONTH BUT IT'LL, IT'LL COME HERE IN OCTOBER. OCTOBER.

YES. YEAH.

RIGHT NOW. SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER.

[INAUDIBLE] AND IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY I THINK IT'S BEING FARMED NOW BUT IT IS, IT IS IT'S, IT'S WHERE THEY STARTED TO KIND OF DO THAT INDUSTRIAL PARK OUT THERE.

THIS IS JUST ANOTHER PIECE OF IT.

BUT IT'S I MEAN, IT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE TO ME THAT IT'S A PIECE THAT NEEDS TO BE ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT IT'S BEING FARMED, BUT IT'S YOU START TO CREATE ALL THE CHALLENGES, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE FARMING RIGHT NEXT TO THE CITY AND WHATNOT.

SO I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I KNOW OF IT.

LIKE JUST OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I THINK I REMEMBER WHEN IT TRIED TO COME BACK FIVE OR SIX YEARS AGO.

SO IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE? YEAH. WELL, OTHERWISE, THE THE CITY OF LOS BANOS IS DOING A GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, WHICH THEY'VE BEEN AT FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS NOW, AND IT'LL BE A BIG ISSUE FOR LAFCO.

WELL, I'LL PUT IT THIS WAY.

IT'S A LONG STANDING ISSUE FOR LAFCO BECAUSE THE CITY UPDATED THEIR GENERAL PLAN IN 2000.

GOSH, MAYBE 2008 OR SOMETHING.

AND THEY WERE GETTING READY TO BRING IT TO LAFCO FOR THE AMENDING THEIR SPHERE AND THEY DIDN'T REACH AN AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

BEFORE YOU, A CITY BRINGS A SPHERE PROPOSAL TO LAFCO.

THEY NEED TO MEET WITH THE COUNTY AND TRY TO REACH SOME AGREEMENT ON THE LAND USES AND AND THE BOUNDARIES.

AND AT THAT TIME THEY COULDN'T REACH AGREEMENT AND THE CITY WANTED TO BRING IT TO LAFCO ANYWAY.

AND SO THE COUNTY BOARD MEMBERS SAID, GO AHEAD, JUST TAKE IT TO LAFCO.

AND IT CAME TO LAFCO.

AND THE ISSUES WERE HOW LARGE THE BOUNDARY WAS AND HOW MUCH GROWTH IT WAS, ACCOMMODATING PRIME LAND IN THE BOUNDARIES AND SOME RELATIONSHIP WITH COMMUNITIES LIKE VOLTA THAT WERE PUT WITHIN THEIR PLANNING BOUNDARY.

AND ANYWAY, WHEN IT CAME, THE COMMISSION, AS I RECALL, WAS LIKE A 3 TO 2 VOTE, WAS OPPOSED TO MOVING IT FORWARD AND GO BACK AND THEY DIRECTED THE COUNTY TO GO OR THE CITY TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH THE COUNTY AND TRY TO REACH AGREEMENT.

AND THEN THE ECONOMY CRASHED AND SO THE CITY NEVER BROUGHT IT BACK.

SO IN THIS NEW GENERAL PLAN UPDATE, THEY'RE USING THE SAME OVERALL PLANNING BOUNDARY, WHICH THEY CALL THE AREA OF INTEREST, AND THEN THEY HAVE A GROWTH AREA AND THEN THEY HAVE A SPHERE.

AND SO AFTER THEY AFTER THEY HAD ADOPTED, BEFORE THEY SUBMIT THE SPHERE TO LAFCO, THEY WILL BE MEETING HAVE TO MEET WITH THE BOARD SUPERVISORS AND TRY TO REACH AN AGREEMENT ON ON MULTIPLE ISSUES.

ONE ISSUE THAT ISN'T REQUIRED NECESSARILY AT THE SPHERES PHASE IS THIS REVENUE SHARING AGREEMENT.

THAT'S THAT'S WHERE YOU SHARE THE COUNTY SHARES PART OF THEIR PROPERTY TAX THAT THEY GET WITH THE CITY FOLLOWING ANNEXATION.

AND THAT'S A BIG NEGOTIATION AND DIFFICULT [INAUDIBLE] MANY LIKE LIVINGSTON, THERE'S STILL NO AGREEMENT WITH LIVINGSTON.

I THINK ON THAT THOUGH THE CITY DOES HAVE A CURRENT AGREEMENT WITH THE COUNTY.

YEAH. AND KIND OF HAPPENED AFTER THE LAST TIME AND BUT THEY DO HAVE A CURRENT AGREEMENT IN PLACE.

YEAH. AND SO, SO THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE NEGOTIATION ISN'T OVER REVENUE SHARING.

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SO THIS ONE IS MORE ISSUES THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF THEIR BOUNDARY AND THEN THE LAND USE IS IN BETWEEN.

SO THE CITY HAS A GROWTH PLAN FOR 20, 30, 40 YEARS.

AND IN THE MEANTIME THAT LANDS IN THE COUNTY AND THEY EACH CITY WOULD WANT TO CONTROL THAT LAND AS BEST THEY COULD NOT HAVE THE COUNTY DO SUBDIVISIONS OR PUT A PUT A DAIRY IN HALF A MILE FROM TOWN WITHIN THEIR GROWTH BOUNDARY.

SO SO AGAIN, IT'S LIKE A SUPERVISOR FOR THAT AREA THAT'S YOU'VE GOT THE CONSTITUENTS OUT THERE THAT WANT TO DO SOMETHING AND WELL, HOW MANY YEARS BEFORE I EVEN SEE THE CITY COMING OUT THIS WAY AND I GOT TO MAKE MONEY TODAY.

SO IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE THAT THE COUNTY WILL WILL HAVE TO FACE ON WHAT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT LAND AND PROCESSING ZONE CHANGES AND THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND THE CITY, AGAIN, THEY WANT TO PRESERVE THAT FOR THEIR FUTURE GROWTH.

AND SO IT IT'S GONE ON WITH EVERY CITY FOR EVERY SPHERE UPDATE AND THIS ONE JUST WAS ONE THAT NEVER GOT FINALIZED.

SO THAT'LL BE COMING BEFORE WE GET IT AT LAFCO.

THAT'LL BE COMING TO THE COMMISSION EXCUSE ME, COMING TO THE TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS AFTER THE CITY ADOPTS IT, BUT THEY JUST COMPLETED THE DRAFT IRR AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THE FINAL IR.

AND I PROVIDED COMMENTS SIMILAR TO WHAT I COMMENTED ON THE LAST TIME, WHICH IS, AGAIN, IT'S A BIG IT'S A BIG GROWTH AREA.

THEY HAVE A LOT OF PRIME AG LAND.

THEY HAVE THE CCID WHICH HAS GOT SOME OF THE BEST WATER RIGHTS IN THE CENTRAL VALLEY BECAUSE THEY'RE AN EXCHANGE CONTRACTOR.

AND SO WHEN YOU CONVERT THAT LAND FOR GROWTH, IT'S DIFFERENT LAND THAN THAN CONVERTING LAND DOESN'T HAVE GOOD WATER RIGHTS OR LAND WITH THE DISTRICT.

IT DOESN'T THAT DOESN'T HAVE A LOT OF WATER.

SO AG AG MITIGATION IS SOMETHING THAT THE COUNTY'S ADOPTED AS AN AG MITIGATION REQUIREMENT, THEIR GENERAL PLAN AND THE CITY HASN'T ADOPTED THAT.

AND IN THEIR IR THEY DIDN'T THEY THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND AG MITIGATION UNDER THE STANDARD MODE WHICH IS GETTING A CONSERVATION EASEMENT ON OTHER FARMLAND ON AN ACRE PER ACRE BASIS AND PUT A PERMANENT AN EASEMENT ON IT.

THEY CAME UP WITH SOME OTHER MEASURES AND ONE OF THEM WAS THAT THEY WOULD TAKE THE TOP 12 TO 18 INCHES OF TOPSOIL OFF PRIME LAND BEFORE THEY DEVELOP IT AND MOVE THAT SOIL TO FARMLAND SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND THEN THEY CONCLUDED IT'S NOT REALISTIC.

SO THEY SAID, WE WON'T IMPLEMENT THAT.

BUT IT'S IT'S LIKE, WHY DO YOU EVEN COME UP WITH AN IDEA LIKE THAT? BECAUSE IT'S DEFINITELY NOT FEASIBLE.

WHY DON'T YOU PUT A MITIGATION MEASURE THAT YOU COULD IMPOSE, SUCH AS CONSERVATION EASEMENTS, WHICH SAID COUNTIES BEEN USING COUNTIES ALL AROUND US HAVE BEEN.

USING THAT MANY LAFCO WAS REQUIRED.

WE DON'T HAVE THAT ADOPTED POLICY BUT BUT THEY DIDN'T EVEN LIST THAT AS A POTENTIAL MITIGATION THAT THEY COULD DENY OR SAY THAT WE CAN'T.

IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR SOME REASON.

BUT THAT'S USUALLY THE MEASURE.

ATWATER. WELL, NO, THEY DID.

THEY LISTED AND THEY LISTED AN OPTION THAT'S NOT FEASIBLE.

I MEAN. WELL WELL, THEY DESCRIBED IT WITHOUT WITHOUT EVEN CALLING IT MITIGATION.

THEY SAID, WELL, HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE WE COULD DO, BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO.

BUT THEY DIDN'T THEY DIDN'T LIST IT AMONG THESE OTHER OPTIONS LIKE THEY HAD ANOTHER ONE WAS A TRANSFER OF DEVELOPMENT RIGHTS, WHICH IS REALLY NOT REALISTIC IN THIS SITUATION EITHER SO. WHY NOT JUST NOT USE COMMON SENSE AND NOT WANT TO DEVELOP INTO REAL GOOD AGRICULTURAL AREA.

YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN I PREACH THAT FOR AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN ON HERE FOR OVER 20 YEARS.

I MEAN, THERE'S PLACES YOU CAN GO AND THERE'S PLACES WHERE YOU SHOULDN'T GO.

BUT I MEAN, SOMETIMES POLITICS PREVAILS.

BUT I MEAN, THEY'VE GOT TO USE COMMON SENSE.

THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT IT IS [INAUDIBLE].

YEAH COMMON SENSE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT [INAUDIBLE].

AND THEY, THEY HAVE THE OTHER CHALLENGE WHICH THE [INAUDIBLE] SOILS ARE TO THE NORTH AND THAT'S WHERE THEY HAVE THE WETLANDS AND THE GRASSLANDS. WATER DISTRICT IS VERY AGGRESSIVE ON THEIR PROTECTION OF THEIR RESOURCES.

SO SO THAT'S THAT'S WHERE THE CITIES HAS TO EITHER GO TOWARDS THE WETLANDS OR GO TOWARDS THE GOOD FARMLAND, OR THEY COULD THEY COULD INCREASE THEIR DENSITIES AND GROWERS GO OUT.

SO FAR, IF THEY INCREASE THEIR DENSITIES IS ANOTHER OPTION.

SO SO ANYWAY, THAT'S THAT'LL BE A COMING ATTRACTION AT SOME POINT.

ONCE THEY GET THROUGH THE FINAL IR THEN WE'LL, WE'LL GET A SPHERE.

BUT, BUT THE COUNTY MEMBERS ON LAFCO WILL WILL NO EARLIER BECAUSE YOU'LL HAVE SOME SPHERE OF INFLUENCE NEGOTIATIONS THAT'LL TAKE PLACE AND OTHERWISE.

YEAH. THERE'S NO OTHER LET'S DO WITH THE, WITH THE, WITH THE WATER DISTRICT NEGOTIATIONS.

OH GREAT. ANYTHING NEW WITH THEM? YES, IT'S NEW AND CONSTANTLY CHANGING.

BUT THE THE LATEST ISSUE IS THE WHAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TO BE A CONSOLIDATION OF THE TWO DISTRICTS.

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BUT IN THIS CASE, SANTA NELLA IS GOING TO BE THE THE DISTRICT THAT REMAINS AND VOLTA IS BASICALLY GOING AWAY AND THEY'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER THAT AREA.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BE IT'S GOING TO BE CALLED THE SANTA NELLA WATER DISTRICT.

SO WE'VE I WORKED WITH THEM TO REVISE THE APPLICATIONS TO BE AN ANNEXATION INTO SANTA NELLEA AND A DISSOLUTION OF THE VOLTA DISTRICT INSTEAD OF A CONSOLIDATION INSTEAD OF A CONSOLIDATION.

YEAH. SO THE VOLTA AREA WILL JUST DISSOLVE.

SOME OF THE ISSUES ARE YOU HAVE A HUGE TOMATO MORNINGSTAR TOMATO PROCESSING PLANT OUT THERE.

THEY'RE LINKED TO THE VOLTA SYSTEM AS A BACKUP WELL, BECAUSE YOU NEED TO HAVE TWO WELLS.

AND SO THE VOLTA DISTRICT HAS ONE GOOD WELL, AND THEN MORNINGSTAR LET THEM HAVE ACCESS TO A SECOND WELL, BUT IN SANTA NELLA'S CASE, THEY DON'T NEED THAT OR WANT THAT. AND THEIR WATER IS LINKED TO SANTA NELLA WITH A THEY'LL PUT IN A FIVE MILE PIPELINE.

AND SO THEY WANT TO NOT INVOLVE MORNINGSTAR IN THEIR DISTRICT.

AND SO ONE OF THE ISSUES WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT LATELY IS THE THE BOUNDARY FOR VOLTA AS A COMMUNITY IS DICTATED BY THE MERCED COUNTY AND MERCED COUNTY HAS GENERAL PLAN MAPS FOR CORPORATE COMMUNITIES LIKE DELHI AND HILMAR THAT ARE COMMUNITY PLAN BOUNDARIES.

AND THEN YOU HAVE WHAT ARE CALLED RURAL CENTERS LIKE LIKE A VOLTA, LIKE A [INAUDIBLE].

AND THOSE ARE AREAS THAT HAVE A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SERVICE TO THE RURAL POPULATION, MAYBE EVEN AG SERVICES, TRUCK REPAIR OR FARM EQUIPMENT REPAIR, AND A MARKET, A GAS STATION AND A POST OFFICE AND A SCHOOL, TYPICALLY.

BUT THEY'RE NOT THERE'S NO SEWER AND WATER.

THEY'RE NOT A GROWTH AREA.

SO IN VOLTA'S CASE, SANTA NELLA NEEDS TO GET A NEW WELL OUT THERE THAT'LL SERVE.

AND THEY'RE GETTING STATE GRANT MONEY FOR IT.

THAT'LL SERVE VOLTA WITH GOOD WATER.

AND THEN SANTA NELLA WILL OPERATE IT AS A MORE EFFICIENT, BIGGER DISTRICT.

BUT THAT WATER IS SERVING SANTA NELLA, TOO.

AND HOW ABOUT SANTA NELLA'S NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE BUREAU THAT'S STILL GOING FORWARD? AND YEAH, I WAS TALKING WITH AMY MONTGOMERY, THE GENERAL MANAGER, EARLIER THIS WEEK ON MONDAY, AND THEY ARE GETTING VERY CLOSE, BUT IT'S STILL NOT DONE. AND SHE REALLY DOESN'T WANT TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR ANOTHER EXTENSION.

SHE WANTS IT ALL WRAPPED UP AND IT'S IMPORTANT FOR WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THIS VOLTA PROJECT.

SO THEY'RE VERY CLOSE.

BUT SHE DOESN'T HAVE IT SIGNED YET.

THERE'S STILL THE THE LAST I HEARD ON IT WAS YEAH, IT WAS THE NEW HANG UP WAS WITH COVID.

THEY HAD THIS AGREEMENT, BUT THEN THEY HAD TO TAKE IT BACK BECAUSE THEY NEEDED COVID LANGUAGE IN IT.

SO THEN THAT JUST IT'S.

[INAUDIBLE] YOU'RE TRYING TO APPLY COMMON SENSE AGAIN, BOB, AND IT DOESN'T WORK OUT TOO WELL, BUT.

YEAH, THAT IS. AND I KNOW AS SOMEBODY WHO SAT HERE WHEN I DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT IT AND SOMEBODY THAT'S BEEN HERE LONG ENOUGH TO KIND OF KNOW, THERE'S NOBODY MORE FRUSTRATED, EMBARRASSED THAN THAN AMY TO HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR EXTENSIONS BECAUSE SHE FEELS LIKE, WELL, WE'RE RIGHT THERE.

I MEAN, I'VE SAT IN MEETINGS WITH THE DISTRICT, WITH THE CONGRESSMEN WHERE, OH, NO, THIS IS A NO BRAINER.

THIS SHOULD BE DONE ALREADY.

EVERYBODY AGREES TO IT.

BUT THEN ADMINISTRATIONS CHANGE.

THE PEOPLE THAT YOU WERE TALKING TO ARE NO LONGER THERE.

NOW COVID HAPPENS.

NOW WE'VE GOT TO PUT COVID LANGUAGE INTO IT.

IT JUST IT'S JUST ONE THING AFTER ANOTHER.

I THINK THAT SHE PROBABLY IS GOING TO RETIRE AFTER SHE GETS THIS DONE.

SHE'S BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A LONG, LONG TIME.

AND I GUESS HER GOAL IS BEFORE SHE LEAVES THERE TO GET THIS DONE, WHICH PUTS THEM IN A LOT BETTER POSITION.

MM HMM. YEAH.

AND IT'S PART AND PARCEL THAT WATER SUPPLY FROM THE BUREAU IS IS CRUCIAL TO IT.

YEAH. SO THE VOLTA WELL, IS IS NOT REALLY BACKUP.

THEY BLEND THAT SURFACE WATER.

THEY BLEND THE SURFACE WATER THEY GET FROM THE BUREAU WITH THE GROUNDWATER.

AND THEY'RE THEY'RE WELL IN SANTA NELLA HAS GOT REALLY BAD WATER.

SO THE VOLTA WILL SOLVE THAT AND IT'LL SOLVE THE VOLTA QUALITY PROBLEM FOR THEIR OWN COMMUNITY.

SO IT'S A REALLY IT'S A WIN WIN.

AND SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE WORKING ON WE HAD A CONFERENCE CALL WITH OUR CONSULTANT MONDAY AND WE'RE WORKING ON THE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE APPLICATION, GETTING THE BOUNDARY RIGHT BECAUSE THEY DON'T THIS IS WATER FOR THE CURRENT NEED.

IT'S NOT FOR GROWTH. SO IT'S GOING TO BE THE CURRENT NEED IN VOLTA AND THE CURRENT NEED IN SANTA NELLA.

AND IF THERE'S NEW DEVELOPMENT, YOU'VE GOT TO YOU'VE GOT TO BRING YOUR OWN WATER WITH YOU.

THEY'RE NOT THEY'RE NOT USING THIS FOR THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.

SO THEY WANT THE BOUNDARY THAT THEY USE FOR THE DISTRICT TO BE SMALLER THAN THE THE RURAL CENTER DESIGNATION IN THE GENERAL PLAN, WHICH SHOULD BE FINE BECAUSE THERE'S THAT EXCESS WATER TO SERVE THOSE PROPERTIES.

YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT A 20 ACRE PARCEL, YOU COULD DO A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO USE WATER THAT GOES TO SANTA NELLA AND AND GROWTH FOR FOR THAT TYPE OF

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SO. YEAH, GOOD.

GOOD QUESTION. ALL RIGHT.

IS THAT IT BILL? YEAH, THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT. WE'LL GO TO COMMISSIONER COMMENTS.

WE'LL START WITH COMMISSIONER ESPINOSA.

THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER HOGUE, PUT YOUR MICROPHONE ON.

JUST LIKE TO THANK BOB OR BILL SORRY, BILL, FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE LAFCO 101 LAFCO 101 YEAH.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS A LOT OF INFORMATION.

WELL, WE'RE WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU ON BOARD.

IT IS IT THEY SPEAK A WHOLE NOTHER LEVEL OF ACRONYM HERE.

AND IT TAKES A FEW MINUTES TO TO GET USED TO IT.

BUT YOU GET THROUGH.

WE GOT A REAL GREAT TEACHER IN BILL, SO I THINK YOU'LL YOU'LL DO WELL.

[INAUDIBLE] WELCOME COMMISSIONER HOGUE TO TO THIS TEAM.

THANK YOU. PERFECT.

ALL RIGHT. COMMISSIONER MCDANIELS? UH, YES, I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

WHEN I SAT ON CAL LAFCO, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING OFF OF STATEWIDE COMMITTEES AND BOARDS BECAUSE IT'S JUST TAKING WAY TOO MUCH TIME.

I NEED TO FOCUS MORE ON THE ISSUES HERE AT HAND.

AND COMMISSIONER HOGUE, I WELCOME YOU TO THE BOARD.

I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU, THOUGH, GOING TO THE NEW COMMISSIONERS TRAINING AT CAL LAFCO CONFERENCE BECAUSE YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH YOU CAN LEARN IN JUST THAT IN THAT TIME, IT'S THERE'S A WHOLE LOT THERE.

YOU LEARN HOW TO TAKE OFF YOUR MAYOR'S HAT WHENEVER YOU WALK INTO THE ROOM INSTEAD AT THE DAIS BECAUSE YOU DON'T REPRESENT DOS PALOS ANYMORE.

WE DON'T REPRESENT THE COUNTY.

WHEN WE SIT HERE, IT'S WE HAVE TO GO BY THE DIRECTION OF THE LAW AND HOW THE [INAUDIBLE] ACT IS SO WELCOME.

COMMISSIONER BERTAO. NO COMMENT.

WELL THANK YOU. I MIGHT COMMENTS AGAIN.

APRIL, I WOULD SAY THAT IF YOU CAN FIND TIME IT'S THAT THAT THAT NEW COMMISSIONER 101 LAFCO 101.

IT IS VERY VALUABLE.

IT KIND OF GIVES YOU THE IDEA JUST TO TOUCH ON WHAT COMMISSIONER MCDANIEL SAID IS YOU COULD FIND YOURSELF IN A SITUATION THAT FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU VOTED YES ON FOR THE CITY OF DOS PALOS.

BUT IT COMES HERE AND IT'S ONE OF THE UNIQUE PLACES TO WHERE YOU'RE ALMOST ALLOWED TO WEAR TWO HATS.

YOU THERE'S DIFFERENT SETS OF RULES THAT IF YOU CAN'T MAKE FINDINGS, YOU AS A MAYOR, YOU THINK IT'S A GREAT IDEA.

LET'S RUN IT. LET'S MOVE IT FORWARD.

BUT AS A COMMISSIONER ON LAFCO, THE LAW DOESN'T ALLOW FOR IT.

SO IF YOU CAN FIND THE TIME, I WOULD HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT FOR YOU.

THE OTHER THING. CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NOMINATION, COMMISSIONER ESPINOSA.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I CAN'T REMEMBER.

I WASN'T IN THE SEAT.

THE OTHER CHAIRMAN WAS, BUT JUST WELCOMING BILL BACK ON BOARD.

HAPPY THAT YOU MADE THE DECISION TO STICK WITH MERCED LAFCO AND GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL TIME.

I KNOW WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT MYSELF AND COMMISSIONER BERTAO, YOU WERE ON THE COMMITTEE TO TRY TO GO OUT AND FIND SOMEBODY AND JUST THEIR LIFE WAS CRAZY AND IT WAS KIND OF SEEMED LIKE IT WAS TAKING FOREVER.

BUT I THINK EVERYTHING EVERYTHING HAPPENS.

EVERYTHING HAPPENS FOR A REASON.

AND YEAH.

AND, AND SO, YEAH, WE'RE SO GLAD THAT YOU STAYED.

YEAH. SO WITH THAT, THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS.

WE'LL ADJOURN THE MEETING AT 10:56.

THANK YOU, EVERYBODY.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.