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AHEAD AND GET STARTED WITH A MEETING, UH, IN COMPLIANCE WITH AB 360 1.AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT, BUT, UM, WE ARE LIVE ON ZOOM AND IN ACCORDANCE TO THE LAW, WE NEED TO BE LIVE ON ZOOM.
SO THERE'LL BE MESSAGES PUT UP ON THE OTHER FEEDS, DIRECTING THEM TO GO TO THE ZOOM LINK, TO BE ABLE TO WATCH OUR MEETING LIVE SO GOOD MORNING.
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WE WILL BEGIN THE REGULAR MEETING THIS MORNING PRIOR TO GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION, THE BOARD FOUND THAT IN COMPLIANCE OF AB 360 1, IN ORDER TO CONDUCT A TELECONFERENCE MEETINGS, NOT SUBJECT TO THE USUAL BROWN ACT TELECONFERENCE RULES THAT DURING THIS STATE OF EMERGENCY DECLARED BY THE GOVERNOR REGARDING COVID-19 PANDEMIC, WHICH CONTINUES TO EXIST AND THE CONTINUED RECOMMENDATIONS OR IMPOSITIONS BY THE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS TO PROMOTE SOCIAL DISTANCING THAT THE MERSEYSIDE COUNTY BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING IN PERSON IS IMPACTED.AND THEREFORE THE BOARD MEETING WILL BE HELD BOTH IN PERSON AND REMOTELY VIA ZOOM DETAILS ON HOW TO JOIN, UH, JOIN VIA ZOOM CAN BE FOUND ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ADDITIONALLY, WE ARE CONDUCTED.
WE ARE CONDUCTED A ROLL CALL, SUPERVISOR PEDROZA IS JOINING US REMOTELY THIS MORNING.
AND AS SUCH, WE WILL NOT BE USING OUR ELECTRONIC VOTING SYSTEM.
INSTEAD, WE'LL BE CONDUCTING A ROLL CALL FOR EACH VOTE.
WE WILL NOW START WITH THE INVOCATION LED BY PASTOR ANDREW CANTRELL, AND THEN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE LED BY SUPERVISOR PERRERA.
UH, PASTOR CONTRAIL IS FROM THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH OF ATWATER.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
GOD, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS MOMENT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENCE HERE, AND WE CALL UPON YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM.
UH, LORD, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR, UH, EACH AND EVERY MAN OR WOMAN THAT IS HERE THAT IS TASKED WITH THE HUGE RESPONSIBILITY OF MAKING THESE DECISIONS AND LEADING, UM, REPRESENTING SO MANY PEOPLE.
I PRAY THAT YOU WOULD BE PRESENT HERE THAT YOUR WISDOM WOULD BE WHAT GUIDES AND DIRECTS, UH, FOREMOST AND UTMOST.
AND I PRAY LORD THAT YOU WOULD COME AND ALSO GIVE US A, UM, UNDERSTANDING ATTITUDE OF PEACE AS, UH, UH, THE PUBLIC AND EVERYBODY THAT'S INVOLVED.
ASK QUESTIONS HAS DEBATES AND TALKS ABOUT THINGS.
THINGS WOULD GO FROM HERE ON OUT.
AND I PRAY LORD THAT THIS WOULD NOT JUST BE REFLECTED IN THIS ROOM, BUT ALSO BE REFLECTED NATIONALLY AS WE DECIDED AND DETERMINED MANY DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO WE PRAY THAT YOU WOULD COME, THAT YOU WOULD BE HERE.
AND WE JUST THANK YOU AHEAD OF TIME FOR ALL THAT YOU DO FOR YOU HAVE BLESSED US SO MUCH.
WE PRAY IN JESUS NAME, AMEN, READY? I ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
THANK YOU, PASTOR CONTROL FOR I'M COVERING FOR PASTOR MILLER.
BOTH TIMES WE'VE INVITED PASTOR MILLER TO, TO PRAY FOR US.
OUR CLOSED SESSION HAS GONE TOO LONG AND WE'VE HAD TO START LATE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, WE DID HAVE CLOSE SESSION.
STAFF WAS GIVEN DIRECTION ON BOTH CLOSED SESSION ITEMS THIS MORNING.
IT IS NOW TIME FOR THE PUBLIC OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK
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ON ANY MATTER OF PUBLIC INTEREST WITHIN THE BOARD'S JURISDICTION, INCLUDING ITEMS ON THE BOARD'S AGENDA.EXCEPT FOR THOSE ITEMS SPECIFICALLY SCHEDULED AS PUBLIC HEARINGS.
TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON, EMAIL PUBLIC COMMENTS WILL NOT BE READ DURING THE MEETING.
ALL EMAILS RECEIVED BY THE CONCLUSION OF THE MEETING WILL BE PLACED INTO THE MEETING RECORD.
SO I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT THIS IS NOW TIME TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT FROM BOTH NON-AGENDA AND AGENDA ITEMS. THIS OPPORTUNITY OF PUBLIC TO SPEAK ON ALL AGENDA ITEMS. WE WILL NOW TAKE COMMENTS FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND YOU WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE PODIUM.
IF YOU ARE JOINING US REMOTELY VIA ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE ZOOM FEATURE TO RAISE YOUR HAND FOR INDIVIDUALS CALLING IN THROUGH ZOOM.
YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING STAR NINE.
WHEN YOU WERE CALLED UPON EITHER BY NAME OR THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, YOU WILL BE DIRECTED TO UNMUTE YOUR MIC OVER THE PHONE.
THIS CAN BE DONE BY PRESSING STAR SIX.
I WOULD LIKE TO ASK OUR INTERPRETERS TO ALSO PROVIDE THESE INSTRUCTIONS IN SPANISH AND HMONG.
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.SEE THE OWNERS AND ALSO TRUST VIA ZOOM.
ZOOM, BUT I LIVE ON CARLA MANO, BUT OCCASIONAL KASIA MAN, VIA ZOOM WHERE THEY LIVE ON BUT IT'S YOUR NANDO.
I TOLD THEM THEY SHOWN THAT PRESSING YOUR CARTO NUNO.
CHATTY TURNING HOLLY, MARIE HYPERCAR, SHARON THERE.
GOT A LITTLE KEYBOARD TOE RIGHT HERE.
SHE SOUGHT THEM OUT TO LAY STAR SIX.
SO AT THIS TIME, OKAY SO SORRY.
THERE WAS SOMEBODY BEHIND YOU TO RAISE THEIR HAND FIRST.
MY NAME IS JANET CASPER AND I AM HERE REPRESENTING THE UNITED WAY.
WE HAVE AN EXCITING OPPORTUNITY FOR MERSEYSIDE COUNTY RESIDENTS AND IT IS, ARE YOU READY? WE HAVE GOT 400,000 HOME COVID TEST KITS TO GIVE OUT FOR FREE TO MERSEYSIDE COUNTY RESIDENTS.
WE START TO DISTRIBUTION ON THIS THURSDAY.
THERE IS A QUITE A BIT OF, UH, SILVER FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN SPENT FOR PR.
SO YOU'RE GOING TO START SEEING A LOT OF ADVERTISING STARTING TOMORROW, RADIO TELEVISION, WE'VE GOT A M L UH, LED TRUCK.
THAT'S GOING TO BE DRIVING AROUND THE COUNTY.
AND THEN WE HAVE MY FAVORITE, A TACO TRUCK WITH NO TACOS.
IT WILL HAVE COVID TESTS IN IT.
UH, SO WE HAVE BEEN, UM, CONTACTING A LOT OF OUR COMMUNITY PARTNERS AND THOSE WONDERFUL VOLUNTEERS THAT WE HAD AT THE VACCINATION SITES.
SO WE'VE HAVE OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE ALREADY LINED UP TO ASSIST US WITH GETTING THESE COVID TESTS OUT.
WE HAVE GOT IT IS ACTUALLY, AND I'M GONNA BACK UP JUST A TAD.
THE PROGRAM IS ACTUALLY THROUGH DUKE UNIVERSITY.
IT IS A RESEARCH GRANT AND THEY'RE GIVING THE TESTS AWAY FOR FREE.
AND THERE ARE SOME SURVEYS THAT PEOPLE MAY TAKE THAT ARE GOING TO BE IN THE BAGS WITH THE KITS THAT WE'RE HANDING OUT.
IF THEY TAKE AND DO THE FIRST SURVEY, IT'S VERY LITTLE, LITTLE TINY SURVEY.
YOU KNOW, WHY ARE YOU HERE? WHY'D YOU COME AND GRAB A BAG.
THEY'RE PUT INTO A DRAWING FOR A $10 GIFT CERTIFICATE, IF, AND WHEN THEY TAKE THE FIRST TEST OR TEST NUMBER ONE, BECAUSE THERE'S GOING TO BE 10 TESTS IN EACH, IN EACH BAG, WE'RE GOING TO GIVE THEM FIVE KIDS.
AND WHEN THEY TAKE THE FIRST TEST, THEY CAN FILL OUT THE SURVEY, WHICH GIVES A LITTLE BIT MORE INFORMATION.
AND IT'LL BE KIND OF LIKE, WHY DID YOU TAKE THE TEST? WELL, I WAS GOING TO GO THANKSGIVING WITH MY FAMILY AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I TOOK THE TEST AND I WAS HEALTHY TO GO.
I'VE BEEN, THEY WILL RECEIVE A GIFT CERTIFICATE IN THE MAIL FOR $25.
THEN WHEN THEY DO THE SECOND TEST, THEY CAN DO THE SAME THING, DO ANOTHER SURVEY AND THEY WILL RECEIVE A SECOND GIFT CERTIFICATE FOR $25.
SO THAT'S THE INCENTIVE TO THEM AS IF THE $44 SAVINGS ON A BOX OF TESTS.
UH, WE HAVE HAD HUNDREDS UPON HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ARE ALREADY CONTACTING ME BECAUSE THE WORD DID GET OUT.
THANK YOU, MR. PERERA, UH, THAT WE WERE GOING TO BE DISTRIBUTING THESE SOON.
AND SO BASICALLY I'M JUST HERE TO DROP OFF SOME INFORMATION AND IF YOU CAN GO AHEAD, SPREAD THE WORD.
ALSO WE'RE LOOKING FOR A FEW MORE TESTS, UH, TEST DISTRIBUTION SITES.
THE NEXT PERSON, PLEASE, PLEASE COME FORWARD.
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HOLD ON HERE.MY NAME IS AND I'M WITH THE PARTY OF SOCIALISM AND LIBERATION.
I AM REQUESTING THAT DURING THESE MEETINGS THAT YOU HAVE A TIMER THAT THE PEOPLE WHO MAKE PUBLIC COMMENTS CAN SEE THE TIMER, HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE LEFT.
IT'S REALLY HARD TO COME UP HERE AND YOU DON'T TALK TO YOU GUYS, SO IT'D BE GOOD TO HAVE A TIMER.
SO WE KIND OF KNOW HOW MUCH TIME WE HAVE LEFT.
UM, I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT YOU OFFER PEOPLE A THREE MINUTE TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT ALSO THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, EACH AGENDA ITEM THAT THEY WANT TO SPEAK ON SO THAT PEOPLE CAN ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THEIR PERSPECTIVES AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY SO THAT YOU CAN HEAR THEM OUT.
I'M ALSO REQUESTING THAT YOU KEEP THE VOICEMAIL OPTION.
A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE AND THEY WORK FROM EIGHT TO FIVE.
THEY CAN'T COME HERE AND THEY CAN'T COME ON ZOOM.
AND A LOT OF TIMES PEOPLE CAN'T THAT THEY CAN'T FIND A BABYSITTER.
ALL THE TIMES, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, WORK TWO JOBS.
OH, THEY HAVE A LOT OF BARRIERS TO COME AND SPEAK WITH YOU, BUT THEY STILL WANT TO PARTICIPATE AND HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD.
SO I'M REQUESTING THAT YOU LEAVE AND KEEP THE VOICE MESSAGE OPTION SO THAT PEOPLE CAN VOICE THEIR PERSPECTIVE AND WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY, WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE HERE IN MERSEYSIDE COUNTY.
THEY CAN'T COME HERE DURING TUESDAY AT 10 O'CLOCK, YOU KNOW, UM, I'M URGING THAT YOU MOVE YOUR MEETING TO 6:00 PM ON A TUESDAY SO THAT PEOPLE CAN COME IN, BUT THEN THEY GET OFF WORK.
THEY COULD JUST COME SEE YOU, YOU KNOW, BUT THE VOICE MESSAGE OPTION IS SO CRITICAL BECAUSE PEOPLE WORK THE NIGHT SHIFT, PEOPLE WORK THE DAY SHIFT.
SOME PEOPLE WORK, TWO JOBS, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
AND SO I'M URGING THAT YOU KEEP THE VOICEMAIL OPTION AND THAT IT'S SO IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A GOOD PARTICIPATION OF PEOPLE.
YOU RAN FOR OFFICE, RIGHT? YOU REPRESENT THE PEOPLE.
AND SO I WANT YOU TO HEAR THE PEOPLE, YOU GUYS, WHEN YOU GUYS VOTE, YOU GUYS VOTE SO FAST, BUT WHENEVER WE REALLY HEAR A GOOD DISCUSSION.
AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HEAR ALL PERSPECTIVES OF PEOPLE, WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY ON WHAT YOU'RE VOTING ON.
AND SO I'M URGING THAT YOU LEAVE THE VOICEMAIL AND YOU GIVE US THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON PUBLIC COMMENT AND EACH AGENDA ITEM AND THE TIMER WOULD BE REALLY NICE.
MY NAME, MY NAME IS SUSAN FLYNN SPA AND I LIVE AT 3,490 SAN LORENZO WAY MERCY SAID, AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE FRIENDS OF MERCY COUNTY LIBRARY.
I'M HERE TODAY FOR TWO REASONS.
ONE, I WOULD LIKE TO COMMEND OUR LIBRARY, STAFF COUNTY LIBRARIAN, AMY TAYLOR, AND DEPUTY COUNTY LIBRARIAN.
OLGA CUTS THE NADA FOR THEIR WONDERFUL EFFORTS TO GET GRANTS, TO EXPAND LIBRARY SERVICES INTO THE COMMUNITY.
YOU'LL HEAR MORE ABOUT TWO OF THEM LATER TODAY, AND THEY'RE JUST FABULOUS.
MY OTHER PURPOSE IS TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE FRIENDS OF THE MERCE SAID COUNTY LIBRARY ARE DOING.
UM, WE, I AM GOING TO LEAVE YOU A COPY THE BOARD AND THE EXECUTIVE STAFF, A COPY OF OUR NEWSLETTER SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AT YOUR LEISURE.
UM, SOME OF THE RECENT THINGS WE'RE UP TO IS WE PARTNERED WITH THE LIBRARY AND MERSEYSIDE CITY SCHOOL DISTRICT TO GET NEW LIBRARY CARDS FOR THIRD GRADERS.
AND IN THE SEPTEMBER, WE GOT 556 THIRD GRADERS, NEW LIBRARY CARDS.
NEXT YEAR, WE HOPE TO EXPAND THIS TO TWO SCHOOLS, TWO MORE SCHOOL DISTRICTS ON THE THIRD GRADE LEVEL.
AND OUR GOAL IS A THOUSAND THIRD GRADERS WITH NEW LIBRARY CARDS.
AND GIVEN TIME YOU CAN SEE WHERE THIS IS GOING.
THERE ARE 17 SCHOOL DISTRICTS WITH ELEMENTARY KIDS IN THE COUNTY.
WE'D LIKE TO GET THEM ALL EVENTUALLY.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE FRIENDS IS OUR GOAL, WHICH WE SET IN SEPTEMBER, 2017 OF A NEW BOOKMOBILE.
AND ON THE ROAD IN MARCH, WE'RE SO EXCITED.
WE HAVE TO THANK ALL OUR PARTNERS, INCLUDING
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THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS FOR PLAYING A PART IN THIS.IT GOES TO REMOTE PLACES, SERVES PEOPLE WHO CAN'T GET TO THE LIBRARY ANY OTHER WAY.
IT'S JUST GOING TO BE REMARKABLE.
AND THANK YOU FOR BEING PART OF IT.
THE FRIENDS IN TOTAL PUT IN $30,000 TOWARDS THAT GOAL OF WHICH WE'RE VERY PROUD, CAUSE WE'RE PRETTY TINY.
BUT, UM, WE THINK THAT THAT'S A WONDERFUL ACCOMPLISHMENT.
SO NOW THAT THE BOOKMOBILE IS PRETTY MUCH ON TRACK, WE'RE MOVING ON TO A NEW GOAL, WHICH YOU MAY HAVE HEARD OF THE MARY HOFFMAN TEEN CENTER, EXCUSE ME.
WE ARE NOW WORKING DILIGENTLY TO MAKE THE TEEN CENTER A REALITY.
THE BORE, MY BOARD D D DELVED INTO OUR POCKETS AND CAME UP WITH $25,000 OF RESOURCE MONEY, UM, TO PUT ON THE BASELINE FOR THE MIRROR.
THAT'S THE TIME LIMIT, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH.
WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE TEEN CENTER.
UH, ACTUALLY THE SHERIFF HAD RAISED HIS HAND THERE IN THE BACK, SO WE'LL GO WITH THE SHERIFF NEXT.
UM, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT WE'VE DONE AT THE, UH, OUR TWO JAILS AS OF NOVEMBER 20TH, WE PUT OUT A MEMO YESTERDAY THAT IN-SERVICE VISITATION IS GOING TO START BEING ALLOWED, PROVIDED THAT BOTH THE INMATE AND WHOEVER'S GOING TO VISIT THE INMATE ARE VACCINATED AND CAN SHOW PROOF OF THAT.
ALSO OPEN IT BACK UP TO CLERGY, UH, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE, THEY DO NEED SOME SPIRITUAL GUIDANCE.
AND SO I JUST THOUGHT, I'D LET YOU KNOW SO THAT WHEN YOU SEE THIS COMING OUT AND YOUR CONSTITUENTS GET AHOLD OF YOU, WE ARE ACCEPTING FOLKS IN, THEY REGISTER IT.
WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
BUT AS LONG AS THEY'VE GOT THE COVID TEST OR CORRECTION, THE COVID VACCINE AND HAVE, HAVE IT COMPLETED, THEN WE'RE GOING TO START ALLOWING BACK THE IN, IN PERSON, VISITATION HAS BEEN WELL OVER A YEAR AND A HALF SINCE IT'S HAPPENED.
AND, UH, SO WE'RE, WE'RE GLAD FOR THAT, FOR THAT PART OF US TO GET GOING.
SO WE ARE ENCOURAGING OUR INMATES, STAFF AND THE PUBLIC TO GET THAT VACCINE IF THEY WANT TO COME IN AND SEE IT.
SO, SO IN CASE YOU GET QUESTIONED ON IT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
SO ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT FOR OUR JAILS? NOPE.
FROM THE SHERIFF TO THE TAX COLLECTOR, GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE BOARD MEMBERS.
UM, AS YOUR TAX COLLECTOR, I WAS JUST REMINDED, UM, THAT WE HAVE AN INSERT IN OUR TAX BILLS THAT WENT OUT FOR THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY.
SO WE PROUDLY COLLECT ALL DONATIONS TO THE FRIENDS OF THE LIBRARY AND OF COURSE, TURN IT OVER, OVER TO AMY AND HER GROUP.
SO DON'T FORGET OUR LIBRARY FOR VERY GOOD.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK, DO WE HAVE ANY HANDS RAISED ON ZOOM AT THIS TIME? I DO NOT SEE ANY HANDS RAISED IN ZOOM.
AS A REMINDER TO RAISE YOUR HAND.
IF YOU ARE ONLINE, THERE IS THE RAISE YOUR HAND BUTTON ON THE CONTROL PANEL.
IF YOU ARE CONNECTED VIA PHONE, THAT IS STAR NINE.
DID YOU SEE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME? I DO NOT.
IF NOT, THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE ON.
WE HAVE A PRESENTATION AT THIS TIME.
STACY, DO YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE IT OR DO YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE FOR ME TO ANNOUNCE IT AT THIS TIME? I WOULD LIKE TO CALL SUPERINTENDENT DR.
I APOLOGIZE TO THE PODIUM TO PROVIDE THE ANNUAL WILLIAMS REPORT.
YOU CAN RAISE IT UP THERE ON THE BUTTON OR, OH, THERE IT GOES.
BUT JUST WAS WONDERING HOW HIGH IT WOULD GO, WHETHER IT SO GOOD MORNING, CHAIRMAN OF MCDANIEL, SUPERVISORS AND STAFF.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME A LITTLE TIME THIS MORNING.
I DON'T HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION.
I'M SURE YOU'RE ALL DISAPPOINTED BY THAT.
YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT ME TO WALK THROUGH EACH ONE THAT ARE PART OF THE WILLIAMS REPORT, BUT I'LL JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
SO THIS YEAR, UH, WE HAD ONCE AGAIN, UH, A GREAT REVIEW OF ALL 25 SCHOOLS, THEY MET ALL THE CRITERIA THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE WILLIAMS ACT, WHICH WAS GENERATED AS PART OF THE WM SETTLEMENT.
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LAWSUIT WAS BROUGHT AGAINST THE STATE BY PARENTS WHO FELT THAT SCHOOLS WEREN'T BEING FUNDED WELL ENOUGH TO PROVIDE SAFE FACILITIES.THEY WEREN'T RESPONDING TO THE SCHOOL ACCOUNTABILITY REPORT CARDS, TEACHERS WEREN'T ALWAYS CREDENTIALED.
AND SO, UH, THE STATE PUT INTO, UH, EFFECT A PROGRAM WHEREBY COUNTY SUPERINTENDENTS ACROSS THE STATE, ALL 58 OF US HAVE TO REVIEW SCHOOLS THAT ARE AT A THIRD DESAL OR LOWER ON THE STATE, STANDARDIZED TESTS, VISIT THOSE SCHOOLS AND MAKE SURE THE SCHOOLS ARE UP TO DATE WITH INSTRUCTIONAL MATERIALS, TEACHER CREDENTIALING AND, UH, FACILITIES.
SO THE PIECE THAT'S LEFT BY THE WAY, WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR EIGHT YEARS BASED ON A TEST THAT IS NO LONGER GIVEN WE'RE IN A, UM, KIND OF THIS SPIN OF A GROUNDHOG, SPIN THE FAMILIAR WITH THE MOVIE.
UH, AND FINALLY THIS PAST SPRING, THE STATE HAS PASSED NEW ENABLING LEGISLATION THAT WILL CHANGE THE GROUP, THE COHORT OF SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE REVIEWED.
SO, UH, JUST TO, JUST TO WRAP UP, WE HAD A GREAT REPORT FROM ALL 25 SCHOOLS.
UH, NEXT YEAR IT WILL BE A DIFFERENT COHORT THAT WILL BE COMING FORWARD FOR YOU TO HEAR ABOUT.
UM, AND WE EXPECT THAT, UH, THE TWO CRITERIA THEY'RE GOING TO BE APPLIED NEXT YEAR.
WE WILL NOT HAVE A LOT OF THOSE SCHOOLS.
UH, THE TWO CRITERIA ARE SCHOOLS IN A COMPREHENSIVE SCHOOL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM OR SCHOOLS THAT HAVE 15% OR MORE OF THEIR STAFF NOT FULLY CREDENTIALED.
UM, YOU PROBABLY SHOULD BE AWARE THOUGH, THAT THERE WERE 20,000 RETIREMENTS LAST JUNE, TYPICALLY THEY'RE ONLY 12,000 RETIREMENTS ACROSS THE STATE FOR TEACHERS AND THE TEACHER'S RETIREMENT SYSTEM.
AND SO 8,000 MORE THAN ANTICIPATED.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE THEY'RE GOING TO BE A HIGH NUMBER OF THIS, THIS SPRING.
SO THERE MAY BE MORE SCHOOLS THAN WE THINK ON THE LIST BECAUSE OF THE CHANGES IN STAFFING.
UH, BUT OF COURSE WE CAN GET ON TOP OF THAT THROUGH TRAINING AND SUPPORT.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN FROM THE SUPERVISORS? THANK YOU, DR.
TIEJIN I'LL LOOK AROUND HERE ON THE DIOCESE AND I'LL LOOK AT OUR COLLEAGUE WHO IS ON ZOOM.
I DON'T SEE ANY, YOU GOT OFF FREE.
NEXT IS APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT
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AGENDA, CALENDAR ITEMS ONE THROUGH 13.PLEASE NOTE THAT ITEM FOUR REQUIRES A FORFEITS VOTE AND THIS WILL BE DONE AS A ROLL CALL VOTE.
HOW ABOUT MOTION? WELL, I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR THE MOTION, BUT UH, I JUST WANT TO ANNOUNCE THAT IT WILL BE A REAL QUICK.
WHAT WE SHOULD DO THOUGH, SINCE WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE, MAYBE AS WE MAKE OUR MOTIONS, LET'S DO IT OVER THE MICROPHONE.
SO THE FOLKS IN THE PUBLIC CAN HEAR AS WELL.
I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE AS PART AS THE SECOND.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION UP HERE SEEING NONE? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
THE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA SUPERVISOR PEDROZA YES.
SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL, SUPERVISOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SILVERA.
LET'S LET'S MAKE SURE WE USE THE EYE.
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PLEASE NOTE, WE WILL BE TAKING ITEMS 34 AND 35 FIRST.WE'LL GO AHEAD AND ASK, UH, THIS IS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT ITEMS, 34 AND 35.
WE'LL TAKE THOSE FIRST, BUT I ASKED ERIC OUR DIRECTOR TO COME FORWARD.
I RECEIVED A, UH, A PHONE CALL OF THANK YOU.
AND THIS IS, AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I ALWAYS SAY HERE ON THE DIAS WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, THIS IS WHERE GOVERNMENT IS DOING, RIGHT? SO ERIC I'LL LET YOU TEE IT UP.
AND, UM, THIS WAS VERY AN EMOTIONAL PHONE CALL AND IT WAS SO GOOD.
I ASKED HIM TO COME AND SPEAK TO US HERE AT THE BOARD, SO THE PUBLIC CAN UNDERSTAND YOUR BEAUTIFUL STORY.
UH, THANK YOU, UH, CHAIR, UH, GOOD MORNING TO MEMBERS OF THE BOARD CEO BROWN.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE SOME PERSONAL CONTEXT TO THE ITEM ITEM 34.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND.
UM, EQUIS IS A WORKFORCE AGENCY THAT WE PROCURED TO OPERATE.
UM, TWO OF OUR JOB CENTERS THAT OPERATE UNDER THE BRAND OF WORKNET.
IN ADDITION TO OPERATING THESE JOB CENTERS, THEY PARTNER WITH US ON A NUMBER OF RECRUITMENT EVENTS AND TRAINING PROGRAMS, UH, TO HELP JOB SEEKERS AND BUSINESSES, UH, IN THE COUNTY ONE SUCH EVENT, UM, HAS ACTUALLY GARNERED NATIONAL ATTENTION.
IT WAS THE TRUCK FEST THAT WAS HELD AT CASTLE
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ON SEPTEMBER 29TH.UM, BUT MORE IMPORTANT THAN SORT OF THE ACCOLADES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN BOTH FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
AND THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS THE PERSONAL IMPACT THAT EVENTS LIKE THIS MAKE, UM, FOR EVERYDAY RESIDENTS AND JOB SEEKERS, UH, IN THE COUNTY.
AND SO I WANT TO INTRODUCE, UH, ONE OF OUR CLIENTS, HIS NAME IS AUSTIN, UM, ABOUT ZOHAN, UH, WHO ATTENDED THE EVENT, UH, AND HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WITH THE CHAIR.
UH, AND HE'S HERE TO PROVIDE HIS PERSONAL STORY AND WHAT THE EVENT MEANT TO HIM.
THANK YOU, ERIC AND I HELLO? GOOD MORNING EVERYBODY.
UM, OKAY, SO I'M HERE BECAUSE YOU GUYS PUT ME HERE.
WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS YOU GUYS GAVE MY FAMILY, UH, ENGLAND, UH, UH, UH, CRACKER THE WINDOW FOR ME TO JUST OPEN AND WIDE OPEN IT, TAKE MY LIFE IN FULL CONTROL, GRABS THE CONTROL AND, UH, WHICH MEANS SUCCESS.
UM, YOU GUYS DIDN'T KNOW ME FROM A CAN OF PAINT, BUT YOU GUYS SAID ALLOWED THE SERVICE TO HELP THE PUBLIC AND, UH, IS STILL NOT COMPLETED BECAUSE I JUST GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP.
UM, I TOLD HIM MR. MCDANIEL, I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON MY PROGRESS BECAUSE TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU WERE WHO YOU ARE.
I WAS JUST BEING HUMAN, THE HUMAN YOU WERE TOO.
SO I WAS TALKING TO ACTUALLY DARREN MCDANIEL, MR. CHAIRMAN.
SO, YEAH, SO, UH, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THAT, BUT I MEAN, YOU'RE AWESOME.
UM, HUMAN BEINGS, UM, BESIDES THE ACT, THANK YOU.
AND, UH, SO I'M A FATHER TO BEEN HOMELESS BEFORE AND, UH, FATHER, THIS FATHER IS MYSELF AND, UH, SO I HAPPY TO BE HERE TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE FOR MY FAMILY THE WAY I DREAMED OF AND SOMETIMES DREAMS DO COME TRUE.
AND, UM, HE JUST GOT ONE AND I WANT IT.
I'M ABOUT TO TAKE IT AND I'M GONNA MAKE ME HAPPY EVEN WHEN I'M DEAD AND GONE, KIND OF HAVE SOMETHING TO LIVE ON.
UM, CAUSE I'M SURE I'M ON THIS.
UM, I HAVE GOALS AND JUST GETTING THESE CLASSES SAY, IT'S GOING TO BE ON MY ENDORSEMENTS.
I WANT TO GET MY C I WANT ME TO GET MY ART FOR PEOPLE.
SHARE, SHARE YOUR PROCESS OF, OF THE STORY OF THE STORY.
THAT'S STORY IS BEAUTIFUL BECAUSE NOT ONLY IS IT YOUR PRESERVATION, BUT IT WAS OUR STAFF'S PRESERVATION.
SO I WENT TO A TRUCKING EVENT AND I TAUGHT OTHERS, MY PEERS, UM, ABOUT IT.
IT'S NOT JUST A JOB FAIR, IT'S A CAREER CAUSE ANYBODY COULD GET A JOB, BUT IT'S VERY SOFT AND PEOPLE ARE APPOINTED A CAREER AND YOU HAVE TO WANT IT TOO.
BUT I WAS TELLING PEOPLE WHO I KNEW HER LIKE, SO LIKE ME, UM, BECAUSE I, I BE AROUND PEOPLE WHO WANT TO UPLIFT THEMSELVES IN THEIR FAMILY, ALL ABOUT THEIR FAMILY.
AND UM, SO I TOLD PEOPLE ABOUT IT.
IT WAS THREE OF US AND I'M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT US TO THE EVENT.
AND I HAD A CASE MANAGER AND BY THE NAME OF MARCOS, MARK BENSON, MARCOS, SORRY, IT WASN'T CALLED MARCOS.
AND UM, HE WAS TELLING ME, I'M SORRY.
UM, YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO GET THIS INSTANCE.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHY? AND HE TOLD ME THAT MY LICENSE HAD BEEN SUSPENDED.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANY RECOLLECTION OF THAT HAPPENING.
IT HAPPENED SIX DAYS PRIOR TO THE EVENT.
I WANT YOU TO THINK THESE ARE TEARS.
AND THEN I'M FEELING LIKE DEFEATED.
CAUSE IT WAS LIKE, YOU FINALLY GET OPPORTUNITY AND TELL THEM THERE'S JUST SO WE CAN BE SO MANIFEST IN HIS BLESSING.
I STAYED AROUND, I DIDN'T GO HOME.
I DIDN'T NEED IT IN THE SHOULDER.
I JUST NEEDED SOMEBODY TO TALK TO.
CAUSE I WAS FEELING LIKE, YOU KNOW, LIKE I FELT MY KIDS, LIKE I COULDN'T EVEN GET A FREE HELP, YOU KNOW? AND UM, SO I, I DIDN'T WANT TO BE, UH, AS WE CALL IT A HATER TO MY FRIENDS, I DIDN'T WANT THEM.
I WALKED AWAY, GOT MY WOES OUT THE WAY CAME BACK.
I DIDN'T WANT TO KILL THEIR SPIRIT BECAUSE IT'S THEIR OPPORTUNITY TO CHANGE THEIR LIFE AS WELL.
AND SO I'M SITTING OFF TO THE SIDE AND NOT SEE ONE OF YOUR STAFF, MEN ENTANGLED WITH A LOT OF EXTENSION CORDS.
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, LET ME GET MY MIND OFF THIS MISERY.
UM, LET ME LET THIS GO AND SEE IF HE NEEDS HELP.
SO I OFFERED MY HELP TO UNTANGLE THE STITCHING CHORDS
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AND HE WAS LIKE, SURE.SO HE ASKED ME, UM, WHY AREN'T YOU SO EXCITED? YOU DON'T LOOK EXCITED, EVERYBODY AROUND YOU IS EXCITED.
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, YEAH, I'M EXCITED.
AND HE'S LIKE, NAH, THAT'S NOT TRUE.
WHY AREN'T YOU NOT ENJOYABLE? AND I TOLD HIM WHAT HAPPENED.
I TOLD HIM, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW MY LICENSE WAS SUSPENDED.
I JUST FOUND OUT TODAY THE EVENT I TOLD PEOPLE TO COME SOME KIND OF, KIND OF FOOLISH, FEELING BAD.
HE WAS LIKE, WELL, YOU DECIDED TO HELP THE RIGHT PERSON.
AND I WAS LIKE, WHAT DO YOU MEAN? UM, CAUSE I'VE BEEN AN EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER.
UM, AND THEN HE TOLD ME TWO LADIES PRIOR TO YOU COMING UP TO ASKING ME JUST FROM THE CHILD SUPPORT DIVISION, HAD A BOOTH OVER HERE.
AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW THEY HAD A BOOTH.
AND THEN THE REST WERE LIKE, BUSINESSES ARE RECRUITING PEOPLE FOR TRUCK, YOU KNOW, TRUCKING COMPANY.
AND HE WAS LIKE, WELL, THERE'S A BOOTH RIGHT NEXT TO THE DMV THAT, THAT ONE WITH NO TITLE ON IT, THAT'S CHILD SUPPORT.
AND HE SAYS, IF YOU'RE IN LUCK, THEY HAVE, THEY SAID THEY HAVE THE, UM, THE POWER PRETTY MUCH THAT DAY TO REMOVE YOUR SUSPENSION IF IT'S DUE TO CHILD SUPPORT.
SO I'M JUST LIKE WALKING OVER IT WITH MY FINGERS CROSSED, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WALKING OVER TOGETHER.
HE'S WALKING OVER HERE WITH ME AND INTRODUCED ME TO THE TWO LADIES AND LAW BEHOLD, UH, THAT WE SERVE HIM.
I'M SORRY, I DON'T WANNA GET SPIRITUAL.
BUT YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE IN A HIGHER POWER BECAUSE HE JUST, HE ALWAYS HAS HIS CHILDREN, NO MATTER WHAT.
SO THE RAN THE CODE ON THE DMV CODE AND IT CAME OUT CHILD SUPPORT.
SO THEN I WAS LIKE, I GOT NERVOUS CAUSE I'M NOT FROM MERCEDES I'M FROM OAKLAND AND ALAMEDA COUNTY.
SO I WAS WORRIED LIKE, OH MAN, HE GOES ANOTHER HICCUP.
SHE WAS LIKE, NO, WE GOT ALL CALIFORNIA COVERED.
AND I WAS JUST LIKE, I ALMOST FAINTED.
I WAS JUST LIKE, WOW, THANK YOU.
SO NOW, UM, I HAD EVERYBODY IN TEARS, THE LADY AT THE VA AT THE CHILD SUPPORT DIVISION, SHE WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, TRY NOT TO HOLD BACK HERSELF.
THE OTHER EV OTHER PEOPLE, NOBODY WANTS IT TO BE CRYING AND I'M SORRY, CRYING.
Y'ALL BUT IT'S LIKE OPEN UP A BANDAID.
SO, UM, YOU GUYS VOTED IN AS A COMMUNITY OR AS A SUPER CHAIRS, SUPERVISORY BOARD, YOU GUYS ARE TOUCHING PEOPLE.
UM, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU GUYS GO TO SLEEP WELL AT NIGHT, NO MATTER HOW, HOW BAD THEY MAY BE.
FIRST, ANYBODY, ANYBODY HIT THE VISUALLY, YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW PEOPLE TOUCHING PEOPLE BY JUST BY VOTING FOR THE RIGHT THING.
AND, AND I'M NOT SAYING WHAT'S RIGHT OR WHAT'S WRONG FOR VOTING CAUSE I'M NOT IN A POSITION, BUT YOU TOUCHED MY LIFE.
AND NOW FOR YOU GUYS, I'M ABLE TO MAKE SURE MY KIDS AND THEIR KIDS AND THEIR KIDS.
AND I HAVE SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, THEY AIN'T GOT TO BE NEW TRUCKERS, BUT AT LEAST I HAVE SOMETHING TO HANG THEIR HAT ON TO, TO VENTURE OUT OTHER ENDEAVORS IN LIFE.
BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE MY LIFE WAS PURPOSEFUL AND IT'S HELPED ME DO THAT.
I WAS SUPPOSED TO GO CELEBRATE THIS.
AND I GOT A CALL YESTERDAY AND I WAS LIKE, WE GOT TO GO DO THIS.
AND SHE WAS LIKE, YEAH, HONEY.
UM, BECAUSE WITHOUT YOU GUYS, WHAT ARE WE CELEBRATING? IT WOULD BE DAY TO DAY.
AND I WAS TIRED OF WORKING A JOB.
I WANTED A CAREER AND MR. MCDANIEL, YOU, AND YOU'RE A PEOPLE, MAN.
AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU GUYS STILL TODAY.
YOU GUYS JUST MET ME AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR GIVING ME THE TIME I KNOW I'M EXCEEDING YOUR TIME LIMIT.
AND I KNOW YOU SAY YOU DON'T CARE, BUT I JUST WANT TO BE POLITE AND RESPECTFUL.
UM, MAN, I'M TRULY HONORED TO TELL Y'ALL AND I'M TRULY HONORED TO RECEIVE THE BLESSING.
SO YOU GUYS KEEP DOING WHAT Y'ALL DO CHOICE.
IT'S MADE YOUR LIFE BETTER AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PUT IT OUT THERE.
SO FOLKS CAN MAKE THE RIGHT CHOICE.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? YOU CAN'T TAKE NO HANDOUTS AND JUST THINK THAT THE JOB IS DONE THERE.
LIKE EVEN THOUGH Y'ALL GOT THE SCHOLARSHIP, BUT IT'S UP TO ME TO COMPLETE.
AND THAT'S WHY I TOLD YOU MR. MUNDANE, I'M PERSONALLY GONNA CALL YOU AGAIN TO TELL YOU THAT I FINISHED AND I'M ON MY WAY.
I WANT YOU TO DRIVE YOUR TRUCK IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE AND BLOW THAT HORN.
SO THAT THAT DAY, UH, MR. AUSTIN HERE WAS ONE OF, UH, 39 INDIVIDUALS THAT GOT A $4,500 TRUCKING TRAINING SCHOLARSHIP.
I BELIEVE YOU START YOUR CLASS ON THE 29TH OF NOVEMBER, UH, WHICH IS GREAT FOR THE INDUSTRY AND GREAT FOR HIS FAMILY.
THERE WERE ALREADY OVER 250 PARTICIPANTS THAT DAY IN 27 EMPLOYERS.
SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP AND, AND GIVING US THE ABILITY TO DO THE WORK THAT WE DO.
LET ME SEE, ARE THERE ANY SUPERVISORS THAT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY, IF I COULD CHANGE MY MIC ON, UH, AUSTIN, CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND THANK YOU FOR WANTING TO BE PART OF THE SOLUTION, RIGHT? AND, AND, AND YOUR WORDS YOU WANTED IT, YOU DON'T TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER.
YOU WORK THROUGH YOU AND YOU'RE RIGHT, AND GOD WORKS IN MYSTERIOUS WAYS.
IT HAD, YOU JUST STAYED IN THE CORNER AND CONTINUE
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TO, YOU KNOW, SHED SOME TEARS.MAYBE YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT INTERACTION WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL THAT, THAT POINTED YOU IN THE RIGHT PATH.
AND, AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
IT'S VERY OFTEN THAT MOST FOLKS COME TO THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, MEETING TO TELL US EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING WRONG.
AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR IT.
AND WE COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THAT.
BUT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, IT'S, IT'S NICE.
NOT THAT WE NEED THE ACCOLADES, BUT IT'S JUST NICE TO HEAR THAT, THAT ALL THAT STUFF AND THE DECISIONS THAT WE MAKE APPEAR AS A BOARD THAT WE ARE TRYING TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE, TO GIVE PEOPLE A LEG UP.
IT'S ACTUALLY NICE TO HEAR A SUCCESS STORY.
SO, SO AS MUCH AS IT MEANT FOR YOU TO COME HERE AND THANK US, I WANT YOU TO KNOW IT MEANS THAT MUCH TO US.
AND THANK YOU FOR COMING HERE AND SHARING YOUR STORY, YOUR STORY.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE, I KNOW AT LEAST HALF A DOZEN PEOPLE OR MORE UP HERE THAT ARE VERY INTERESTED TO SEE IT'S TO SEE THE OUTCOME AND ITS SUCCESS OF YOUR STORY.
SO CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU, SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
WELL, I ALSO THANK YOU FOR INVITING, UH, AUSTIN, UH, HERE WITH US AND I WANT TO CONGRATULATE YOU AND FOR YOUR FAMILY, I WISH YOU THE BEST.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, LIKE SUPERVISOR PEREZ SAYS IT'S, UH, SOMETIMES, UH, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HEAR THOSE BEAUTIFUL STORIES AND THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL STORY AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING WITH US AND, AND, AND GOOD LUCK ON YOUR, ON YOUR FUTURE.
AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, AND I JUST DRIVE A TRUCK OWN YOUR OWN TRUCK OR TWO.
SO, UH, THE DEMAND IS HUGE SINCE, SO THE BEST WISHES.
I, YOU KNOW, THE, THE WISDOM THAT YOU HAVE, RIGHT, THAT YOU, THAT, THAT, UM, THAT YOU'RE CHANGING THE LIVES OF FUTURE GENERATIONS, RIGHT? YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU WERE, YOU WERE DIDN'T KNOW YOUR FATHER WERE FATHERLESS AND, AND, AND HOW THAT MAY HAVE, OR NOT EFFECTED YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, THAT, I GUESS THAT WHAT, WHAT YOU MISSED OUT ON, RIGHT.
AND YOU WANT TO GIVE THAT TO YOUR KIDS.
AND, AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO REITERATE THAT BECAUSE SOMEBODY MAY NOT HAVE HEARD YOU SAY THAT.
AND, UH, ANYWAYS, I JUST THANK YOU FOR YOUR WISDOM.
AND, UH, SURE, APPRECIATE YOU AND WISH YOU WELL.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT.
UH, HE AND I WERE BOTH BAWLING ON THE PHONE WHEN HE CALLED ME.
IT WAS JUST A BEAUTIFUL STORY, JOSH.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY, UH, CONGRATULATIONS AND THANKS FOR THE COMMENTS.
UH, I THINK, UM, I ECHO A LOT OF WHAT EVERYBODY SAID, BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, THE THING THAT, THAT HITS HOME, I THINK TO A LOT OF US, UH, AS PARENTS, IS THAT YOU'RE REALLY WANT TO BE A ROLE MODEL FOR YOUR CHILDREN.
AND I THINK THAT'S, UH, INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE IT.
AND I CAN'T WAIT TO, UM, W WHEN YOU DO GO BY DARREN'S HOUSE AND HONK THE HORN, UM, CAN I GET IN THE TRUCK AND CAN I HONK IT, UH, ALSO, AND CAN BE LIKE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT OR SOMETHING? I GOT YOU.
YEAH, THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR PEDROZA, BUT, UH, NO, AUSTIN.
AND WHAT I WANT TO SAY IS IT WASN'T OUR CHOICE.
YOU'RE THE ONE WHO MADE THE DECISION TO DO THIS.
WE JUST HAPPENED TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THERE IN FRONT OF YOU.
AND THERE'S OTHER FOLKS THAT CAN DO IT TOO.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT TOUCHED ME TOO, IS WHEN YOU SAID YOUR KIDS SAID THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE DOING HOMEWORK WITH THEM, WHAT A GREAT EXAMPLE.
UM, SHARED YOU GOT MY NUMBER CALL ANYTIME, IF YOU NEED TO ENCOURAGE CALL ERIC FIRST, BUT NO, I'M JUST KIDDING, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THAT.
THAT'S A MOTION BY SILVERA AS PRESENT SECOND.
AND THE SECOND WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE? WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL, SUPERVISOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SILVERA, MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY, AND CHAIR'S PREROGATIVE.
USUALLY THE CHAIR GOES LAST IN THE VOTING PROCESS.
PUBLIC WORKS ITEMS 14 THROUGH 16, PLEASE NOTE ITEMS 14, 15, AND 16 REQUIRE A FOUR-FIFTHS VOTE.
WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKS AIR SOLVERA MOTION TO APPROVE SECOND WITH A QUESTION.
I WANT TO SEE THE, UH, HAD A QUESTIONS FOR DANA REGARDING, UH, I DON'T REMEMBER 15.
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ON THE AGENDA SEVERAL TIMES, AND I KNOW THAT WE'RE, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING A WELL AND PROVIDING A SAFE, CLEAN WATER FOR OUR, UH, UM, YOU KNOW, UM, THE BE WITH THE CORRECTION CENTER.SO HOPEFULLY, UH, IT'S ALMOST DONE.
AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, I GOT A CALL FROM, UH, A FAMILY MEMBER OF, ONE OF THE PRISON SAID AT THE CORRECTION CENTER.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ENOUGH WATER FOR, UH, FOR BATHING AND, UH, FOR ALL THEIR NEEDS.
SO, UH, DANA, WHEN YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, DANA HERTZFELD OR DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS, UM, STATUS OF THE, WELL, THE WELL HAS BEEN DRILLED THIS WEEK, THE CONTRACTOR WILL BE INSTALLING THE PUMP AND MOTOR.
UM, THE REMAINING WORK TO BE DONE WILL BE TO INSTALL THE DISCHARGE PIPING AND ALSO HOOK THE MOTOR UP TO THE POWER.
UM, WE'RE HOPING THIS CAN GET DONE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS.
THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES OF COURSE, WITH SUPPLY CHAIN AND OTHERS, THAT THE CONTRACTORS WORKING OUT, UM, IN TERMS OF THE WATER OUTAGE THIS WEEKEND ON SUNDAY, THAT WAS NOT CAUSED BY WATER SUPPLY OR WELL WATER.
THE ISSUE WAS THAT THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS IS THERE'S A 40,000 GALLON BUFFERING TANK, WHICH WE USE TO TREAT THE WATER FOR ARSENIC.
THE WATER IS THEN PUMPED FROM THAT TANK TO THE 200,000 GALLON STORAGE TANKS, WHICH SUPPLY THE WATER TO BOTH FACILITIES, TO TRANSFER PUMPS BETWEEN THE BUFFERING TANK AND THE TWO STORAGE TANKS, UM, WENT OFFLINE SATURDAY AFTERNOON.
AT SOME TIME THE ALARM SYSTEM DIDN'T SEND OUT THE PROPER NOTIFICATIONS WHERE WE'VE SINCE RESOLVED THAT ISSUE.
AND WE WERE CONTACTED EARLY MORNING ON SUNDAY THAT THE WATER PRESSURE AT BOTH FACILITIES WAS RUNNING LOW STAFF RESPONDED.
WE GOT THE TWO PUMPS BACK ONLINE, AND WE WERE ABLE TO RESTORE WATER MONDAY MORNING AROUND 6:00 AM.
I JUST, UH, YEAH, REGARDING, UH, UH, DRINKING WATER.
I KNOW THEY PROBABLY HAVE BOTTLED WATER OR THEY STAFF DID BRING IN PORTA-POTTIES AND BOTTLED WATER.
WE ARE WORKING WITH THE SHERIFFS TO IMPROVE OUR RESPONSE ON THESE.
I JUST, HOPEFULLY, UH, THE PEOPLE THERE THAT HAD QUESTIONS THAT ARE LISTENING AND IF NOT, THEN THEY CAN COME BACK AND, AND WATCH IT BECAUSE THEY WANTED AN UPDATE.
I DO HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND DO A ROLL CALL.
I IT PROFESSOR PERREIRA, SUPERVISOR SILVERA.
NEXT IS HEALTH ITEM 17 AND 18 CHAIRS.
I HAVE A MOTION DROVES ON A SECOND.
IS THERE A FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THE DIAS SEEING NONE CALL FOR A ROLL CALL? VOTE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
SUPERVISOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SILVERA.
NEXT IS BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND RECOVERY SERVICES ITEMS, 19 AND 28.
I HAVE A MOTION AS BEEN A SECOND.
SO THAT WAS PEREIRA WITH THE MOTION ESPINOSA.
WHAT? THE SECOND, SO FURTHER DISCUSSION AT THE DIOCESE SEEING NONE LET'S CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SOLVERA AYE.
NEXT IS HUMAN SERVICES AGENCY ITEM 21.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION CHAIR? THIS IS SOLVERA MOTION TO APPROVE.
AND THE SECOND, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR PERREIRA, SUPERVISOR SOLVERA SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
NEXT IS COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ITEMS. 2325.
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A FULL FIT FOR FITS VOTE, AND WE WILL BE TAKING ITEM 25 SEPARATELY.SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AT THE 22 THROUGH 24 BEFORE THE PRESENTATION.
SO IF WE CAN GROUP THOSE TOGETHER OR I MOVE TO APPROVE SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION BY SUPERVISOR PRAYER.
SECOND BY SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS? IF NOT, WE'LL CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR PERERA, SUPERVISOR SILVERA.
NOW WE'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ITEM NUMBER 25.
GOOD MORNING, MR. HENDRICKSON.
I CAN MARK HENDRICKSON DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
JUST BY WAY OF BRIEF BACKGROUND.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS ADOPTED ITS CURRENT GROUNDWATER MINING AND EXPORT ORDINANCE BACK ON MARCH 17TH, 2015, IN ORDER TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THIS VALUABLE RESOURCE.
AT THAT TIME, THE BOARD MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT IT WAS INTENDING FOR ITS ACTIONS TO MERELY SERVE AS A BRIDGE AND THE INTERIM SOLUTION UNTIL WHICH TIME THE GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY AGENCIES WERE ESTABLISHED AND GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY PLANS WERE IMPLEMENTED THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY AS REQUIRED BY THE STATE.
LEGISLATURE'S 2014 APPROVAL OF THE SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT ACT, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS SIGMA WITH THIS IN MIND, CONSIDERING THAT IMPLEMENTATION OF GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT PLANS IS WELL UNDERWAY THROUGHOUT THE COUNTY STAFF BELIEVES THE TIMING IS NOW APPROPRIATE TO BEGIN THE TRANSITION OF DETERMINING THE SUSTAINABLE OR GROUNDWATER WELLS FROM THE COUNTY TO THE GSS AS WAS ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED TODAY, MR. MAXEY, WE'LL WALK THROUGH FOR YOU, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES AND LIABILITIES ASSOCIATED WITH THE ORDINANCE AS IT STANDS TODAY, SOME OPTIONS FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
AND WE SIMPLY SEEK GENERAL GUIDANCE AS WOULD BE STAFF'S INTENTION TO RETURN TO THE BOARD IN DECEMBER WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND POSSIBLE ADOPTION.
AT THIS POINT, I'LL BE TURNING OVER TO MR. MAXEY AND WE WILL BE OF COURSE, HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
WHERE MS. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, STEVE MAXI, DEPUTY DIRECTOR PLANNING FOR THE COUNTY.
WELCOME SO QUICKLY YOU HAVE THE CLICKER WORKING.
OH, THIS WILL JUST DRIVE BY NEXT SLIDE.
UH, WATER IS FILLED WITH ITS OWN LANGUAGE AND SET OF ACRONYMS. SO THIS IS A, MOSTLY FOR THE PUBLIC'S BENEFIT BECAUSE THEY'LL BE USING ALL OF THESE THROUGHOUT THE PRESENTATION.
UM, GSA GRAMMAR, SUSTAINABILITY AGENCY, GSP GOVERNOR SUSTAINABILITY PLAN THAT'S APPROVED AND ADOPTED BY GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY AGENCIES SIGMA OR THE SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT ACT IS THE CALIFORNIA ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY ACT.
CED IS THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT HERE AT THE COUNTY.
AND DEH IS THE MERCER COUNTY DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH.
SO AS MR. HENDRICKSON MENTIONED, THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WAS INTENDED AS A BRIDGE TO SIGMA IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, AND WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE, UH, THESE GSPS HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADOPTED.
THEY'RE ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF, UH, THE TURLOCK'S OF BASIN, UH, WHICH WILL BE IN PLACE BY JANUARY 31ST OF NEXT YEAR, OR IS REQUIRED TO BE IN PLACE BY JANUARY 31ST OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, LOOKING AT THE, THE COUNTY ROLE IN OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE VERSUS WHAT THE GSA IS ROLE WOULD BE, UM, MOVING FORWARD.
UH, WE KNEW AT THE TIME THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE, THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE THAT GSES WERE, UH, GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR SUSTAINABILITY POLICY.
WE KNEW WHAT THAT WAS GOING TO MEAN FOR A GSS AND THE COUNTY'S ROLE AS WELL.
UH, AT THE SAME TIME, THE COUNTY SAW A NEED TO, UH, TAKE IMMEDIATE ACTION, UH, TO, UH, LIMIT THE, UM, OVERDRAFT OR, OR, UH, PUMPING OF WATER FROM, UH, MERSEYSIDE COUNTIES, GROUNDWATER SUB-BASINS.
UM, AND SO WE SAW A NEED TO PUT THIS, THIS ORDINANCE IN THE PLACE AT THE TIME THE COUNTY SAW THEY NEED TO PUT THAT INTO PLACE AT THE TIME.
UM, AND SO THAT SNIPPET THERE IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT OF THIS SLIDE IS DIRECTLY FROM THE ORDINANCE.
UH, JUST BASICALLY SPEAKING TO THE FACT THAT, UH, THIS ORDINANCE WOULD BE A BRIDGE UNTIL WHICH TIME SIGMA WAS, WAS IN PLACE.
GSA SILVER, UH, IN PLACE IN GSPS WERE ADOPTED GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UNDER OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE, WE HANDLE WELL PERMITTING, UM, THROUGH REALLY THROUGH THE LENS OF A WELL PROHIBITION.
SO THAT WILL PER PROHIBITION IS IN PLACE, UH, REALLY TO LIMIT THAT INCREASE OR POTENTIAL FOR INCREASE, UH, IN GROUNDWATER EXTRACTION.
UM, I REALLY WANT TO DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LAST LINE OF THAT.
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IT SAYS THIS, UH, PROVISION, UM, OF THE CODE SHALL PROHIBIT THE CONSTRUCTION OF WELLS FLAT-OUT PRO PROHIBITION OF ANY NEW WELL WITHIN THE COUNTY.WELL PROHIBITION FOR CERTAIN WELL TYPES, WHAT WE CALL A DIMINIMOUS WELLS.
SO WELLS THAT ARE, UH, GOING TO AN AGGREGATE ON A SINGLE PARCEL PUMP, LESS THAN A TWO ACRE FEET PER YEAR, A REPLACEMENT WELLS.
SO IF YOU HAVE A WELL THAT'S FAILED THAT YOU'VE USED, THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BETWEEN 95 AND 2013, WHICH ARE THE TIME BOUNDS OF THE ORDINANCE, UH, FOR ESTABLISHING AN EXTRACTION PATTERN, YOU CAN REPLACE THAT WELL, UM, GENERALLY, UH, LIKE FOR LIKE BASIS.
AND THOSE ARE JUST A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES THAT ARE, UH, EXEMPTIONS TO THAT.
AND SO WE'RE IN A POSITION, UH, NOW UNDER THIS EXISTING ORDINANCE WHERE, UH, WE HAVE TWO PIECES TO THE WELL PERMIT, BASICALLY THE DISCRETIONARY REVIEW THAT, UH, WE AS THE COUNTY HAVE THROUGH PASSAGE OF THIS ORDINANCE ARE IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE REVIEWING EACH AND EVERY WELL APPLICATION ON A DISCRETIONARY BASIS.
AND THEN THE CONSTRUCTION PERMITTING ASPECT OF EACH WELL PERMIT WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT A TYPICAL WELL CONSTRUCTION, STANDARD SETBACKS, UM, CASING, THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT PUTS THE COUNTY IN A POSITION WHERE, UM, WITH THE DISCRETIONARY ACTION DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS UNDER , UM, OR EXCUSE ME, DISCRETIONARY ACTIONS ARE SUBJECT TO REVIEW UNDER SEEQUA.
AND THAT PUTS THE COUNTY IN THE SEAT AS A LEAD AGENCY FOR CONDUCTING ANY ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW UNDER SEQUEL, UM, FOR, FOR EACH AND EVERY WELL, WE CAN GO TO THAT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO SOME OF THE CHALLENGES WITH OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE, WE HAVE KIND OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL, UH, BLANKET ORDINANCE THAT COVERS THE WHOLE COUNTY, UM, ACROSS ALL OF OUR GSA OR ACROSS ALL OF OUR SUB-BASINS AND ALL THE GSES WITH ANY TO THE SUB-BASINS.
AND EACH OF THOSE REGIONS OF THE COUNTY HAS THEIR OWN SET OF GROUNDWATER NEEDS THEIR OWN SET OF SUSTAINABILITY ISSUES, THEIR OWN SET OF GOALS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO REACH FOR, UH, THROUGH W WHAT'S IN NOW WITH THE, THE, UH, GRAMMAR SUSTAINABILITY PLANS.
AND SO THERE'S ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH ISN'T NECESSARILY THE BEST APPROACH OR THE MOST EQUITABLE APPROACH.
UM, AND AGAIN, WE KNEW AT THE TIME THAT THIS ORDINANCE WAS PUT IN PLACE THAT THE GSA IS WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OVER AND HAVE MORE OF THAT LOCALIZED FOCUS, UH, STATES ALSO DESIGNATED USA'S AS THE RESPONSIBLE AGENCIES FOR MANAGEMENT OF, UH, GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY, UM, AND GSES ARE THE SOLE AGENCY THAT'S RESPONSIBLE, RESPONSIBLE FOR GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY.
THE COUNTY RIGHT NOW, UH, IS REALLY IN A POSITION WHERE WE'RE REGULATING GROUNDWATER EXTRACTION VIA OUR ORDINANCE THROUGH OUR PERMITTING PROCESS.
UM, AND SO THE, THE QUESTION OR THAT GIVES RISE TO THE QUESTION OF DOES THAT, IS THAT THE APPROPRIATE ROLE FOR THE COUNTY TO BE IN AT THIS POINT WITH, UH, THE GSPS IN PLACE OR GSA IS IN PLACE IN GSP IS ADOPTED.
UH, SO LOOKING AT THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, WHAT ARE OUR OPTIONS FOR ADDRESSING THESE CHALLENGES WE'VE STOPPED HAS GONE THROUGH AND LOOKED AT, UH, REALLY KIND OF THREE OPTIONS THAT SPAN A SPECTRUM.
ONE IS LEAVE THE ORDINANCE IN PLACE, KIND OF THE STATUS QUO APPROACH.
TWO WOULD BE TO REPEAL THE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER, UH, AND KIND OF OPEN IT UP TO WHAT IT WAS PRE 2015 AND THE EXISTING ORDINANCE WENT INTO PLACE.
AND THEN THREE WOULD BE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO, UH, CONTINUE TO BRIDGE AND PARTNER WITH RGSA IS NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO IF WE WERE TO KEEP THE STATUS QUO OPTION OR TAKE THE STATUS QUO OPTION, UM, I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THAT KEEPS US IN THAT LEAD AGENCY ROLE UNDER SEQUIN, AND THAT, UH, MAKES US LIABLE FOR ANY DECISION DISCRETIONARY DECISION THAT WE MAKE ON ANY OF THESE WELLS, UH, LOOKING AT DATA MANAGEMENT, UM, REQUIREMENTS AND REPORTING REQUIREMENTS, DATA THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH OUR WELLS WELLS THAT ARE METERED, UM, NEW WELLS THAT HAVE GONE IN HOW DEEP THEY ARE, WHAT GROUNDWATER LEVELS MIGHT BE, THINGS THAT ARE REPORTED TO US.
WHAT DOES THAT DO TO YOU LOOK LIKE FOR US AND REPORTING THAT INFORMATION TO GSA IS LONG-TERM AND THEN WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE COUNTY IN TERMS OF A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAINTAIN THAT DATA ACCURATELY, UM, THE RESOURCE EXPENDITURE, UH, THAT MAYBE COSTS HAVING TO GO AND SEEK THAT INFORMATION FROM PROPERTY OWNERS, THIS ACCOUNT YOU WANT TO BE IN THE POSITION OF MAINTAINING THAT INFORMATION THAT ULTIMATELY GSES ARE GOING TO RELY ON, UH, WITH THE STATUS QUO APPROACH.
UM, THERE'D BE A NEED TO COORDINATE WITH THE DSAS ANYWAY.
UH, SO HOW, HOW DO WE GO ABOUT INFORMING GSA IS ABOUT, UH, OUR INDIVIDUAL WELL APPLICATIONS.
WHAT IF GSS HAVE QUESTIONS? WHAT IF THEY WANT TO, UH, IMPOSE CERTAIN CONDITIONS ON A GIVEN? WELL, UM, AND AGAIN, THAT PUTS US IN THE DISCRETIONARY DRIVER'S SEAT WHEN WE'RE DOING THAT LEVEL OF COORDINATION WITH, UM, WITH GSA IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN, UH, GSA IS, WANT TO ALLOW OR DENY A NEW WELL, AND MAYBE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE OF OPINION BETWEEN THE COUNTY AND A GSA ON INTERPRETATION OF SOME OF THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT'S PERTINENT TO AN INDIVIDUAL, WELL, OR A INTERPRETATION OF OUR ORDINANCE OR GSA, OR EXCUSE ME, A GSP POLICY.
UM, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I JUST SAY, UH, WANTS TO IMPLEMENT SOME SORT OF MANAGEMENT ACTION THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED AND IN A GSP, UH, LOOKING AT PUMPING RESTRICTIONS FALLOWING,
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THINGS LIKE THAT.SO AN EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF A COUNTY WERE TO, UH, APPROVE A WELL WITH LITTLE OR NO RESTRICTION, UH, AND THEN THE GSA WENT TO LIMIT PUMPING DOWN THE ROAD THAT PUTS THE COUNTY, MAYBE IN THE SEAT OF, UH, HAVING TO TELL THAT PROPERTY OWNER, HEY, WE SHOULD DO THIS WELL, BUT ACTUALLY WE NEED YOU TO NOT BE ABLE TO PUMP AS MUCH AS WE, WE GAVE YOU THE OKAY TO PUMP.
UM, AND SO, UM, THE GSA IS GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH COUNTY WITH THE COUNTY, OR I WOULD ASSUME A GSA WOULD HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY IN THAT, THAT, UH, SITUATION, UM, AND A PROPERTY OWNER IS CERTAINLY GOING TO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THE COUNTY, UH, HAVING GRANTED THEM A PERMIT, BUT THEN HAVING TO COME BACK AND SAY, OH, ACTUALLY YOU CAN'T DO WHAT YOU WANTED TO DO, BUT NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, IF WE WERE TO, UH, GO TOWARD THE, UH, THE OPTION OF REPEALING THE ORDINANCE ALTOGETHER, UH, BE PRETTY SAFE TO ASSUME THAT THERE WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN NEW WELL APPLICATIONS.
WE SAW THAT, UH, JUST BEFORE OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE WENT INTO PLACE, FOLKS THAT WERE TRYING TO GET WELL AS APPROVED AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, AND THAT, UH, RUN OF NEW WELL APPLICATIONS IS LIKELY TO INCREASE, UH, OVERDRAFT CONDITIONS IN THE COUNTY, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO AVOID AS THE COUNTY UNDER OUR EXISTING ORDINANCE.
UH, AND WE KNOW THAT OUR GSA IS, AND REALLY SIGMA AS A WHOLE IS TRYING TO AVOID AS WELL.
UM, REPEALING THE ORDINANCE ALL TOGETHER WOULD REALLY NECESSITATE THE GSA IS X REALLY EXPEDITING THE NEED TO, UH, LIMIT NEW PUMPING AND MAYBE NEW WELLS, UM, RE WE KNOW THAT WE WANT TO BE GOOD PARTNERS WITH THOSE GSS AND REALLY HAND OFF THIS BATON OF GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT FROM THE COUNTY'S EXISTING ORDINANCE TO THE GSA IS DOING, DOING THEIR JOBS.
UM, AND SO WE DON'T WANT TO PUT THE GSA IN THE POSITION WHERE THEY'VE GOT TO HURRY UP AND COME UP WITH SOMETHING, OR JUST A BLANKET PROHIBITION ON, ON WELLS ALTOGETHER.
WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOME THOUGHT GIVEN TO WHAT THAT TRANSITION LOOKS LIKE.
AND THEN AGAIN, THE INTENT OF ORDINANCES IS THAT BRIDGE TO IMPLEMENTATION OF SIGMA.
UM, THAT'S REALLY IN ITS EARLY STAGES, USA'S ARE, UH, FORMING THEIR MANAGEMENT ACTIONS.
THEY'RE ESTABLISHING, UH, HOW THEY WANT TO PRIORITIZE, UH, VARIOUS SUSTAINABILITY GOALS FOR THEIR GSA.
UM, AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT EXACTLY WHAT SIGMA SAYS TO DO.
YOU ADOPT YOUR, UH, GRANDMA'S SUSTAINABILITY PLAN.
YOU START IMPLEMENTATION YOU REPORT ANNUALLY ON IT.
THAT'S WHAT THE GSES ARE DOING TODAY.
SO THE THIRD OPTION HERE AND, AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED APPROACH WOULD BE TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS TODAY, REALLY REMOVE THE COUNTY FROM THAT DISCRETIONARY DECISION MAKING AND THAT LEAD AGENCY ROLE.
UM, AND SPECIFICALLY, UH, WE WANT TO LOOK AT A FEW CHANGES.
SO DOMESTIC DIMINIMUS WELLS, AGAIN, THAT'S TWO ACRE FEET OR LESS, UM, YOU KNOW, SUPPLYING A HOUSE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, THOSE BLOOD WOULD STAY EXEMPT FROM THE PROHIBITION OF NEW WELLS THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH, UH, WITH WHAT'S, UH, IN THE SUSTAINABLE GROUNDWATER MANAGEMENT ACT OR SIGMA.
UM, AND THEN FOR ALL OTHER WELLS THAT ARE WITHIN A GSP, EXCUSE ME, WITHIN AGSA WITH AN ADOPTED USP, THEY WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM AN ORDINANCE.
ANY, ANY, WELL, WITH IT AGAIN, WITHIN A GSA WITH AN ADOPTED GSP WOULD BE EXEMPT FROM THE ORDINANCE, IF, AND ONLY IF THE GSA MAKES A, UM, CONSISTENCY, DETERMINATION BASICALLY SAYING YES, THE WELL THAT YOU PROPERTY OWNER HAVE A PROPOSED TO US AS A GSA, UM, IS CONSISTENT WITH OUR GSP.
GO AHEAD AND, AND, UH, APPLY FOR THAT.
WELL, I'LL GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN A SECOND, FOR ALL OTHER WELLS THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE GSA, UM, OR WITHIN A GSA THAT'S BEING MANAGED BY THE STATE, OR WHAT'S CALLED PROBATIONARY STATUS UNDER SIGMA, THOSE WELLS WOULD BE SUBJECT TO THE ORDINANCE AND, UM, THE PROHIBITION ON NEW WELLS, UH, THAT WOULD HARM OUR GROUNDWATER SYSTEM.
SO NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, TO REALLY SIMPLIFY THIS, THE ONLY INSTANCE THAT A WELL APPLICATION GETS FILED LOOKING IN THE MIDDLE THERE IS IF ONE OF THE THREE THINGS ON THE LEFT IS CORRECT.
IT'S A DOMESTIC DIMINIMUS, WELL, THE GSA HAS FOUND IT CONSISTENT, OR THE WELLS NOT WITHIN A GSA.
WE AS THE COUNTY UNDER WHAT WE THINK WE COULD GO TOWARD, UH, IN AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, WE AS A COUNTY WOULD NOT CONSIDER A WELL APPLICATION.
WE WOULDN'T EVEN RECEIVE A WELL APPLICATION UNLESS ONE OF THOSE THREE THINGS ON THE LEFT IS CORRECT.
UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE, AND DO A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
THOSE LEFT TWO COLUMNS ARE THE DOMESTIC DIMINIMOUS WELLS AND WELLS OUTSIDE OF THE GSA, UM, THAT RIGHT, MOST COLUMN, UH, FOUR WELLS WITHIN A GSA, IT, THE PROCESS WOULD HAVE TO FOLLOW THIS ORDER.
UM, THE GSA WOULD REVIEW THE WELL APPLICATIONS.
GSA WOULD PROVIDE THAT CONSISTENCY, DETERMINATION TO THE COUNTY, AND THEN, AND ONLY THEN COULD THEN APPLICANT FILE THAT WELL PERMIT WITH THE COUNTY.
WE THEN TAKE A LOOK AT IT FROM A, FROM A MINISTERIAL STANDPOINT, WE LOOK AT THE CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS PIECES, WE'D LOOK AT, UM, AGAIN, SETBACKS CASING AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, THINGS THAT, UH, OUR, OUR, UH, THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH OR DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAS DONE FOR YEARS AND WILL CONTINUE TO DO.
AND THEN THE, UM, IF IT'S ALL APPROVED, THE PROPERTY
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OWNER COULD GO AHEAD AND GO DRILL THE WELL THAT AGAIN, THAT KIND OF PUTS US IN THAT MINISTERIAL, UH, PROCESS INSTEAD OF A DISCRETIONARY PROCESS.SO WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF A GSA DOES NOT FIND A WELL CONSISTENT WITH THEIR GSP? AGAIN, WE HAVE OUR WELL PROHIBITION IN PLACE AND THE COUNTY WOULD BE UNABLE TO PERMIT THAT WELL, THAT'S REALLY A FUNCTION OF THE FACT THAT, UM, THAT'S HOW WE WOULD WANT TO, I THINK, CONSTRUCT THE ORDINANCE, BUT THEN ALSO IF A GSA HAS ALREADY SAID, NO, THAT WELL IS NOT CONSISTENT.
THE COUNTY WOULD STILL, EVEN IF WE WENT THROUGH A PROCESS OF HAVING TO CONSIDER A WELL FROM A DISCRETIONARY STANDPOINT, WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND ENGAGE WITH GSA TO GET THEIR INPUT AS A RESPONSIBLE AGENCY UNDER SEEQUA ON, UM, ON A GIVEN WELL, AND SO THAT'D REALLY BE THE COUNTY STEPPING INTO A SITUATION WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO ASK THE AGENCY.
THAT'S ALREADY SAID, NO, THIS ISN'T CONSISTENT TO TELL US THAT IT'S INCONSISTENT.
UM, JUST DUPLICATING WORK AT THE END OF THE DAY.
UM, ALSO IMPORTANT THE GSS WOULD USE THEIR IMPLEMENTATION AUTHORITY AND THEIR IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS.
UM, WE WOULDN'T CONDITION THESE WELLS AT THE REQUEST OF GSS GSS HAVE THE RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE EXTRACTION.
THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO MANAGE THAT EXTRACTION.
THAT WOULD BE BETWEEN THOSE, UH, IMPLEMENTATION ACTIONS AND NOT THAT AUTHORITY WOULD BE HANDLED BY THE GSA BY COORDINATING BETWEEN THE GSA AND THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THE COUNTY'S NOT GOING TO ENFORCE ANY CONDITIONS HERE.
THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE GSA.
WE'LL STILL HANDLE THE INSPECTION PIECE OF IT.
IF THERE'S A CONTAMINATION ISSUE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
UM, BUT THE ACTUAL GROUNDWATER CHECK-IN PIECE THAT ONLY GETS MANAGED BY THE GSA.
SO TO DATE AND I APOLOGIZE, THIS IS A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT TO READ THAN, THAN I THOUGHT.
UH, AS I MENTIONED EARLY, UH, EARLY ON IN THIS PRESENTATION, UH, SINCE 2020, UH, ALL OF OUR GSS WITH THE, AGAIN, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF OUR TURLOCK.
SO BASED IN GSS, UH, I'VE BEEN MANAGING GROUNDWATER AND IMPLEMENTING THEIR ADOPTED GSPS FOR TWO YEARS.
WE'RE WELL INTO THE IMPLEMENTATION STAGES.
UH, GSA IS KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO TO, TO CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD AND REACH THEIR SUSTAINABILITY GOALS.
WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE AT A STAFF LEVEL, UH, WITH, UH, REPRESENTATIVES FROM GSS FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS DATING BACK TO APRIL, WE'VE MET WITH DSAS, WE'VE HAD WORKSHOPS THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS POTENTIAL APPROACH THAT I'VE OUTLINED FOR YOU.
UM, AND SO WE'RE HERE TODAY, UH, DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU AS THE BOARD, AGAIN, TO GET SOME DIRECTION AND, UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SOME ADDITIONAL OUTREACH, UH, WITH GSA TO JUST HELP ON SOME NUTS AND BOLTS OF THE TRANSITION, UH, IF, IF THAT'S, UH, HOW THE BOARD WANTS TO PROCEED.
UM, SO JUST LOOKING AT KIND OF THE END OF THE TIMELINE HERE, UH, IF THE BOARD WANTS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE OR TAKE SOME OTHER ACTION ON, ON THE ORDINANCE, UH, WE'D BE ABLE TO RETURN TO THE BOARD IN DECEMBER, UH, AND POTENTIALLY, UH, INACTIVE THIS ORDINANCE IN JANUARY.
UH, THERE'S A 30 DAY PERIOD BETWEEN WHEN THE BOARD WOULD ADOPT.
AND WHEN, UH, THIS ORDINANCE COULD GO INTO EFFECT, UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
UH, JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM SOME OF THE USA'S, THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT TIMELINE.
AGAIN, WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS WITH, UH, GSS FOR ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS.
UM, SO TH THE TIMELINE WILL BE ABOUT A YEAR BY THE TIME ALL IS SAID AND DONE.
UM, BUT THERE ARE STILL SOME CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, WHAT THAT MEANS WITH, WITH TIMELINE AND IMPLEMENTATION OF DSPS.
UH, SPECIFICALLY WHEN DSAS WOULD START TO HEAR BACK FROM, UH, THE STATE OR DWR DEPARTMENT OF WATER RESOURCES, UH, ON APPROVAL OF THEIR, UM, DSAS, BUT, UH, REALLY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A POLICY ON HOW TO REVIEW INDIVIDUAL WELLS.
SO, UM, THE TIMELINE AS THAT TIES TO DB DWR ITS APPROVAL IS A LITTLE UNCLEAR.
UM, BUT THERE HAS BEEN, UH, SOME CONCERN ABOUT TIMELINE AND THE ABILITY FOR, UH, THAT, UM, I'VE ALSO RAISED THE POTENTIAL ISSUE THAT, UH, STAFFING AND RESOURCES ASSOCIATED WITH STAFFING IS NOT QUITE THERE TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE NEEDS FOR, UM, OR THIS NEED FOR, UH, CREATING A POLICY THAT WOULD BE TIED TO WELL REVIEW AND THEN STAFFING AND RESOURCES FOR ACTUALLY DOING THAT WHILE WE REVIEW, UH, IT'S BEEN SOMETHING ELSE THAT WE'VE HEARD.
UH, BUT WE'VE, AGAIN, WE'VE HOSTED THESE WORKSHOPS AND HAD THIS KIND OF CONTINUED DIALOGUE FOR THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS WITH GSS TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THAT NEED REALLY LOOKS LIKE WE'VE SHARED, UM, WHAT WELL APPROVAL RATES TEND TO LOOK LIKE HOW FAST AND HOW, UM, AND THE VOLUME OF WELL PERMITS THAT WE SEE, UH, THAT, THAT LEVEL OF DETAIL HAS BEEN SHARED WITH GSS, UH, OVER THE LAST EIGHT MONTHS.
UM, AND THEN OUR DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH HAS INDICATED A WILLINGNESS TO, UM, CONTINUE TO HELP DSAS AND HELP DRILLERS AND HELP PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, WITH WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION THAT COULD ULTIMATELY FEED INTO, UH, GSA APPROVAL OF A GIVEN WELL, AND THEN WOULD HELP, UH, BE ABLE TO FILL OUT THE COUNTY'S APPLICATION FOR,
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UH, AGAIN, OUR MINISTERIAL REVIEW PORTION.UM, AND WE ACTUALLY HAVE A WORKSHOP, UH, LATER THIS AFTERNOON, UH, WITH, BETWEEN OUR DIVISION OF ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH, SOME COUNTY STAFF AND, UH, GSS AND NUMBER OF USA'S THAT WILL BE IN ATTENDANCE, UM, ON WHAT THAT REVIEW ACTUALLY LOOKS LIKE A NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO JUST TO CLOSE HERE, UH, AS MR. HENDRICKSON MENTIONED, WE'RE LOOKING FOR THE BOARD'S DIRECTION AT THIS POINT ON, UH, HOW TO PROCEED, UH, STUFF.
UH, AGAIN, STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE TO AGAIN, UH, KIND OF WORK WITH GSA IS TO HAND OFF THAT BATON FOR IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF SIGMA, UH, AND THEIR GSPS.
AND WE ARE PREPARED IF THAT'S THE ROUTE THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO TAKE TO RETURN IN DECEMBER, UH, WITH A DRAFT ORDINANCE FOR THE BOARD'S CONSIDERATION.
SO I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M HAPPY TO SHARE MORE INFORMATION, ISN'T IT.
AND ONE THING I WANT TO JUST, I WANT TO CLARIFY THIS ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION THAT THE COUNTY THAT YOU GUYS ARE PRESENTING TO US, THIS IS IN THE GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY ACT.
SO THAT MINISTERIAL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE MINISTERIAL AND THE DISCRETIONARY ACTION IS MORE OF A TIGHT TO SEQUENCE.
UM, SO SEQUENCE SAYS THAT ANY DISCRETIONARY ACTION, AGAIN, AS, AS THE ORDINANCE IS CONSTRUCTED, NOW IT'S SUBJECT TO ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW.
ANY MINISTERIAL PROJECT IS EXEMPT FROM THAT ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW, OR IT'S NOT GOING TO HAVE AN OBVIOUS IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
UM, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE TRYING TO GET IS TAKE US OUT OF THAT DISCRETIONARY DRIVER'S SEAT, WHERE THERE'S SOME LIABILITY ASSOCIATED WITH MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, UM, AND, AND PUT US IN THAT, UH, MINISTERIAL PROJECT CATEGORY AND HANDOFF THAT DISCRETION ON GROUNDWATER, SUSTAINABILITY TO THE GSS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR SUPERVISOR PRAYER? WELL, I GUESS I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
THIS IS MY MULTIPLE TIMES OF GOING THROUGH THIS INFORMATION, BUT, UH, BUT I, I WILL, YOU KNOW, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU'VE KIND OF SHARED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE GSES HAVE HAD EIGHT MONTHS, WHICH SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF TIME, BUT, UM, WE'RE GOVERNMENT AND, AND THE GSA IS OUR RELATIVELY NEW ARM, I GUESS, OR, OR FUNCTION, UH, GOVERNMENTAL FUNCTION.
AND SO, UM, ALTHOUGH I AGREE WITH, WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I AGREE THAT EVENTUALLY IT NEEDS TO BE AT THE GSA.
UM, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE, UH, THE JANUARY 20TH, UM, DROP DEAD DATE.
AND SO, UM, ANYWAYS, I, UH, ANYWAYS, I'LL JUST SHARE THAT.
I MEAN, I'VE SHARED THAT WITH YOU BEFORE, IT'S NOTHING NEW, BUT, UM, I, UH, I JUST WANT TO CAUTION US TO, TO, UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE IT, YOU KNOW, CHAIR MCDANIEL ASKED IF THIS IS IN SIGMA AND, AND SO, YOU KNOW, YES IT IS, BUT NO, IT'S NOT RIGHT.
OTHER COUNTIES ARE NOT DOING THE SAME STEPS WE ARE, WHICH DOESN'T MAKE OURS WRONG OR THERE'S RIGHT.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, IT'S A, I GUESS IT'S A FLUID SITUATION AND, AND SO ANYHOW, I BELIEVE IT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
I THINK YOU'VE DONE YOUR HOMEWORK AND I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I'M JUST A LITTLE CONCERNED ABOUT THE TIME, LIKE, I'LL STOP THERE, SUPERVISOR SOLVERA THANK YOU CHAIR.
UM, MR. MAXI, WILLING TO GO BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SAYS HOW IT WORKS AND IT'S WELLS OUTSIDE THE GSA.
SO IF A WELLS OUTSIDE OF THE GSA THAT THEY DON'T CURRENTLY FALL INTO A GSA, CORRECT.
UH, THAT WOULD BE FOR ANY WELL, IT'S NOT WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF A GSA AND THEN WOULD THERE BE ANY OTHER LIMITING FACTOR THAT WOULD CAUSE THEM TO FALL INTO THE WELL PROHIBITION? SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, IS IF I'M NOT IN A CRITICALLY OVERDRAFTED SUB-BASIN AND I WON AND I WASN'T IN A GSA AND I WANT TO PUT A WELL IN BY AMENDING THE ORDINANCE, OR IF WE WERE GOING DOWN THE ROAD OF A MEANING, THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT PERSON WOULD, WOULD STILL NOT BE ABLE TO PUT A WELL IN UNLESS THEY WENT THROUGH SEQUEL, CORRECT.
WE'D HAVE TO CONDUCT THE ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW THAT WOULD SHOW UNDER, UNDER THE ORDINANCE, HAS THIS CRAFTED.
IF WE KEPT THE PROHIBITION IN PLACE, UM, IT'S A PROHIBITION, UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW THROUGH AN ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW PROCESS THAT THERE WILL BE, UH, BASICALLY NO, NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE ENVIRONMENT.
SO LIKE IF IT WAS, AND I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND, I WANT TO STATE THAT FIRST, THAT I, I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE RAMIFICATIONS OF GETTING RID OF THE ORDINANCE PERIOD THAT YOU WOULD, YOU WOULD PROBABLY SEE AN INCREASED PEOPLE, FOLKS COMING AND PULLING WELL, PERMITS AND WHATNOT.
I NEVER LIKED THE WELL ORDINANCE TO BEGIN WITH.
I THINK I'VE MADE THAT KIND OF CLEAR TO EVERYBODY THAT I JUST THINK IT WAS, IN MY OPINION, IT WAS AN OVERREACTION TO A SUCH A POINT IN TIME.
I THOUGHT IT WAS LIKE A 180 DEGREE OPPOSITE APPROACH.
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UM, THERE'S, THERE'S, WE DEFINITELY HAVE SOME EXEMPTIONS IN THERE THAT ALLOW THAT HELPS MOST PEOPLE, BUT THERE'S STILL SOME ONES THAT, THAT FALL WITHIN THIS.UM, WHAT I CALL IS, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF THE GRAY AREA I'VE SHARED WITH THEM WITH YOU BEFORE, AND YOU HAVE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT HAVE PROPERTY RIGHTS AND, AND IN MY MIND IT MAKES COMMON SENSE THAT THEY SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO PUT A WELL IN, BUT THEY FALL INTO, THEY DON'T MEET EXACTLY ONE OF THOSE EXEMPTION CATEGORIES.
THAT'S FRUSTRATING FOR ME TO HAVE TO TELL ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS THAT YOU OWN THIS PROPERTY AND YOU CAN'T PUT A WELL THERE, EVEN THOUGH IT USED TO BE A 60 ACRE PIECE, THAT ONE, WELL PERFORMED ON AN, IT GOT SPLIT INTO THREE TWENTIES, AND I CAN'T SEE HOW THAT USES ANY MORE WATER.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE JUST PULLING IT FROM A DIFFERENT STRAW.
BUT I, WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, I, I THINK THAT IT'S PROBABLY, FOR ME, THE APPROACH IS, UM, GET US OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF, OF, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO GO, LET ME GO BACK TO THE SECRET PIECE UNDER THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE TO DO SEEQUA IN SEQUENCE, NOT CHEAP AND WITH NO GUARANTEE THAT YOU GET A WELL AT THE END.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I, YOU KNOW, IF I'M SITTING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FENCE AND I'M COMING IN, I WELLS AND WE'RE TALKING AG WELLS HERE, AND WE'RE TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS IN SOME CASES TO PUT THIS IN, THIS IS, IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE LIGHTLY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE, YOU PUT SEQUEL ON TOP OF THAT.
AND I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT I'LL THROW ONE OUT THERE.
YOU KNOW, YOU SPENT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON SEQUEL TO FIND OUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU COULD SPEND ANOTHER A HUNDRED OR $200,000 TO PUT A WELL IN IT.
IT'S KIND OF FRUSTRATING, BUT I KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT.
I KNOW DECISIONS THAT WERE MADE BEFORE ME.
SO I AM IN FAVOR OF MOVING FORWARD WITH AN AMENDMENT TO IT.
AND I, AND I GUESS I WILL, I KNOW THAT EVEN WE, I SPOKE AT FARM BUREAU, I DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS AGO THAT WAS.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, AND PEOPLE KNOW THAT THIS WAS COMING AND I GET IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, SALMONELLA COUNTY WATER DISTRICT IS ON THAT, UH, GSA WITH US.
AND LIKE, YOU KNOW, UM, AMY KIND OF DOES OUR BOOKWORK AND STUFF BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF RESOURCES THERE AND A LOT OF FUNDING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE KINDA GOT TO GET THERE.
AND, AND SO I, I THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF, YOU KNOW, THE JANUARY TIMELINE.
I THINK THAT THERE'S WAYS THAT WE CAN MAYBE WORK AROUND THAT IN THAT WE COULD IMPLEMENT OUR POLICY AND POTENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THOSE THAT AREN'T QUITE READY YET, GIVE THEM MAYBE ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS TO, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT OUR, IT WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL WHATEVER THAT DATE IS THAT WE CAN COME UP WITH.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME GSKS THAT HAVE THAT CAPABILITY AND I DON'T WANT TO HOLD THEM BACK.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW WE GET THERE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
IS THERE A HAPPY MEDIUM THERE THAT SAYS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE READY TO GO, IT CAN GO INTO EFFECT HERE, BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GOING TO AFFECT OVER THERE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT GETS TOO COMPLICATED AND WE JUST NEED A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH.
BUT I DEFINITELY, UM, I DEFINITELY WOULD.
I THINK THAT THE CURRENT ORDINANCE, I DON'T LIKE, AND SO, AND REALIZING THAT PROBABLY JUST DOING AWAY WITH THE WHOLE THING IS PROBABLY WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL.
SO I'M IN FAVOR OF AN AMENDED VERSION OF IT THAT ALLOWS GSS TO DO REALLY WHAT, WHAT IN MY MIND IS WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND UNDERSTANDING THAT WHEN WE PUT THIS ORDINANCE INTO EFFECT, IT WAS ALWAYS JUST THAT BRIDGE TO GET TO SIGMA, TO GET.
AND I GET IT, IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN A PROCESS AND IT WAS IN, AND, AND I AGREE WITH MY COLLEAGUE SUPERVISOR PRAYER, THAT IS A LOT OF, A LOT OF THE FOLKS THAT SIT ON THESE PSA'S ARE, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE FARMERS, NOT ALL OF THEM, BUT A LOT OF THEM, AND THEY'RE NOT USED TO DEALING WITH GOVERNMENT AND THE BUREAUCRACY AND THE WAY THAT THE GOVERNMENT WORKS OR WHATEVER.
AND SO IT'S A LEARNING CURVE FOR THEM.
AND I WANT TO BE RESPECTFUL OF THAT.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR PEDROZA.
DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR INPUT ON THIS? UM, IT'S BEEN SAID, UH, I AGREE WITH WHAT SCOTT SAID.
I THINK THE ORDINANCE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED, UM, BASED ON, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S TASKS RECOMMENDED AND TO ECHO WHAT SUPERVISORS TOLD PARIS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO ALLOW THE GSS, UH, TO DO WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO DO AND, AND MONITORING THIS STUFF.
SO MY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORRYING FOR THE COUNTY ON LIABILITY, RIGHT? YEAH.
THAT'S, THAT'S IT, UM, UH, STUFF THAT'S, THAT'S MY RECOMMENDATION AND MY, UM, I GUESS, UH, BIGGEST CAUTION IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LONGER THAT THIS ORDINANCE HANGS OUT AND GETS PROCESSED OR HANDLED THERE AND IMPLEMENTED AS IT IS TODAY,
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UM, THE LONGER, UM, THAT LIABILITY IS THERE, BUT IT'S, IT'S ALSO NOT, UH, SO WE'RE TO SWITCH THE LIABILITY FROM US TO THE GSS.THAT'S A, I'M TRYING TO GET TO THE SIMPLEST EQUATION ON THIS.
MR. BROWN, DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE, AND IF I MAY, UM, YES, THERE IS A LIABILITY ISSUE, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, I'D ALSO SAY THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE WAS DRAFTED AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD AS MR. MAXEY AND MR. HENDRICKSON SAID IT WAS A BRIDGE.
UM, AND SO THERE IS KIND OF A, AN OVERARCHING POLICY ISSUE HERE TOO, FROM A LONGTERM IS, DO YOU WANT THE COUNTY STAFF BEING IN THE BUSINESS OF APPROVING PERMITS WHEN WE'RE NOT THE ONES THAT ARE ACTUALLY WITHIN THE GSA WHO ARE IMPLEMENTING THE GSPS, YOU KNOW, MAKING THE DECISIONS AND MANAGING THE WATER BUDGETS AND THE ALLOCATIONS AS YOU MOVE FORWARD DOWN THE LINE.
I KNOW IT'S EARLY IN THE PROCESS RIGHT NOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THAT TRANSITION, BUT IT'S AT THAT POINT IN THAT TRANSITION WHERE IT MADE SENSE TO STAFF TO BRING THIS TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF THAT, YOU KNOW, WHEN DO YOU DO THAT? I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A RIGHT OR WRONG ANSWER OF WHEN YOU MAKE THAT CHANGE, BUT REALITY IS SIGMA PUTS THE GSA AS A RESPONSIBLE PARTY FOR MANAGING THE GSPS, YOU KNOW, ACROSS NOT THE COUNTY.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WHERE BETTER TO PUT THE, IF YOU'VE GOT THAT RESPONSIBILITY TO MANAGE, IT'S BETTER FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE THAT WHETHER A WELSH SHOULD GO IN OR NOT, SHOULD BE THE DECISION OF THE GSA AND NOT THE COUNTY STAFF, YOU KNOW, FROM A PROCESS PERSPECTIVE.
AGAIN, TIMING IS THE QUESTION HERE, I THINK, YOU KNOW, AND THAT IS KIND OF THE PIECE, BUT I WOULD SAY THERE THERE'S THAT BIGGER ISSUE THERE TOO, FROM A BROADER PERSPECTIVE THAN JUST LIABILITY.
AND PLEASE, IF YOU DON'T, IF YOU DISAGREE WITH ME, PLEASE, CORRECT THAT.
NO, THAT'S, THAT'S ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.
JUST TO CLARIFY A COUPLE OF THINGS.
I MEAN, I ASKED THESE QUESTIONS IN OUR OTHER MEETINGS TOO, SO THAT'S WHY I FIGURED IT'S GOOD FOR THE PUBLIC TO HEAR THE ANSWER.
IT'S, IT'S THE LIABILITY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS LIABILITY IN THE SENSE THAT THE COUNTY, IF WE, TO MAKE GROUNDWATER SUSTAINABILITY DECISIONS, WHEN ANOTHER AGENCY HAS THAT AUTHORITY AND WE'RE MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, WHETHER THEY'RE BASED OR NOT ON THOSE ADOPTED GSPS, US BEING IN THE DRIVER'S SEAT AS THE COUNTY, MAKING THOSE DECISIONS, UM, DOES OPEN UP THE DOOR FOR SOME LIABILITY.
SO DO YOU FEEL THAT WE'RE GETTING OUT AHEAD OF IT IF THE GSPS HAVEN'T BEEN IMPROVED YET? SO THE GSPS HAVE BEEN ADOPTED AND THEY'RE BEING IMPLEMENTED AS THEY ARE, BUT DWR CHANGES TO THE EXTENT THEIR CORRECTIONS MIGHT COME BACK OR REQUESTS FOR MORE INFORMATION MIGHT COME BACK, UM, TO THE EXTENT THOSE MIGHT IMPACT, UM, ANY OF THESE KIND OF WELL REVIEW POLICIES THAT THE GSA HAS MIGHT PUT IN PLACE.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT, SHIRT'S A VALID CONCERN.
UM, IN MY OPINION, IN MY OPINION ALONE, THAT'S WHY I THINK HE'S GSA IS, COULD ALSO COME UP WITH POLICIES THAT, UM, WOULD BE PREPARED AND EQUIPPED TO HANDLE THOSE CHANGES.
UM, AND ONE OTHER THING, UH, MR. BROWN HIT ON THAT I'VE, I'VE NEGLECTED TO HIT ON AS WELL.
UM, GSA IS, WOULD NOT BE REVIEWING WELL PERMITS.
THEY'D BE LOOKING FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PIECE OF IT.
AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO UNDER SIGMA.
THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO IMPLEMENT AND TO REGULATE GROUNDWATER EXTRACTION.
SO REALLY THIS, THIS ORDINANCE, IF, IF IT, UH, THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, IF WE WERE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH, WITH AN AMENDED ORDINANCE WOULD REALLY GIVE THE GSA AS ANOTHER TOOL TO WORK WITH PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE WELLS GOING IN TO MR. SILVERA, HIS POINT, YOU KNOW, IF, IF A PROPERTY OWNER SHOWS UP AND SPENDS A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS ON A WELL ONLY TO BE TOLD, OH, YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PUMP HALF OF WHAT YOU WERE ORIGINALLY ALLOWED TO PUMP.
THAT PUTS THE GSS IN A LOT HARDER POSITION.
THIS OPENS UP THE DOOR FOR THAT DIALOGUE BETWEEN A PROPERTY OWNER AND A GSA.
WELL, BEFORE THAT, LONG BEFORE THAT, WELL EVEN GOES INTO THE GROUND.
UM, SO THAT, THAT DOES JUST GIVE ONE MORE TOOL TO THE GSS AS WELL.
I JUST KNOW, I HEARD A PRESENTATION FROM THE CALIFORNIA WATER COMMISSION, WHICH WAS FORMED FOR THE STATE WATER PROJECT, WHICH THEY DON'T HAVE ANY BUSINESS ANYMORE.
THEY'RE NOW SNIFFING AROUND AT GROUNDWATER, THE GSES AND GSPS EVEN STICKING THEIR NOSES INTO WELL WATER TRANSFERS WITHIN THE SAME BASIN.
SO MOVING FORWARD, WE HAVE FOLKS WHO ARE NOT AN ELECTED POSITIONS, MAKING VERY REAL DECISIONS ON FOLKS.
AND YET WE'RE THE FOLKS WHO ARE ELECTED TO MAKE THOSE DECISIONS.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN WHAT THE WATERBOARD DOES, AND WE'RE NOT HAPPY WITH ANY DECISIONS THEY'RE MADE AND BECAUSE THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION ON A WHIM AND THEY'RE THERE BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR APPOINTED HIM.
SO I'M NOT TALKING, I'M JUST, THIS IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE JUST NEED TO HAVE.
THIS IS A REAL SITUATION THAT'S, THAT'S HAPPENING.
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IT'S EASY FOR US AT THE COUNTY TO SAY IT'S ON THE GSA PHASE, BUT WITH, I THINK THEY NEED TO BE BETTER PREPARED FOR MAKING THOSE DECISIONS.SO MOVING FORWARD, LIKE I SAY, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT TIMING.
WE KNOW WHERE WE HAVE TO GET THERE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE SEEING EXAMPLES, OTHER PLACES WHERE THIS DOESN'T REALLY WORK.
SO CAUTIOUSLY, WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IT THE RIGHT WAY.
UM, ONE, I ADD TO MY COMMENTS EARLIER, UM, UH, FIRST OF ALL, UH, UH, WHEN I'M TALKING ABOUT MORE TIME, I'M THINKING UNTIL LATE SPRING, YOU KNOW, APRIL OR MAY NOT, NOT TWO YEARS FROM NOW.
SO JUST WANT TO SHARE THAT, UH, MY, TO THINK THAT THAT AMENDMENT AND AMENDING OUR ORDINANCE IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO GO.
AND THEN, UH, MY OTHER SUGGESTION IS COULD WE LOOK AT, UM, PUTTING TOGETHER A DISCLAIMER THAT EXPLAINS TO A POTENTIAL, UH, WELL APPLICANT THAT, UM, THE GSES AND YOU HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO RESTRICT YOUR USAGE OF THAT WELL, AND JUST MAKING SURE THEY KNOW AHEAD OF TIME, WHAT THEY'RE GETTING INTO RIGHT ENOUGH, THAT THEN THEY WANT TO GO TO THEIR GSA AND HAVE A CONVERSATION TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN.
AND THEN I THINK MAYBE THAT IN THE MEANTIME, BETWEEN NOW, AND, AND, AND MAYBE NEXT SPRING, IF THAT'S, WHEN IT IS THAT, UM, WE'VE INSULATED OURSELVES A LITTLE BIT FROM LIABILITY.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT, IF THAT WOULD ELIMINATE OUR LIABILITY, BUT I THINK IT WOULD MAYBE GO A LONG WAYS INTO TO REDUCING IT.
SO JUST A COUPLE OF SUGGESTIONS, SUPERVISOR SOLVERA THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT UP AND LLOYD, AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS JUST TO REMIND FOLKS THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH PIECE, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET THOSE STANDARDS JUST BECAUSE IT'S A TWO WAY STREET, JUST BECAUSE THE GSA SAID, YEAH, NO, WE'RE GOOD WITH THIS ONE GOING IN, THERE'S STILL CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS THAT HAVE TO BE MET.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OTHER RULES OUT THERE.
SO AS PART OF THAT, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO MUCH OUT THERE, BUT IT'S JUST SOMETHING, I GUESS, SPREAD THE WORD THAT IF WE DO GO WITH AN AMENDED VERSION, YOU STILL, IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IF THE GSA SAYS, YEAH, IT'S GOOD.
THIS WILL WORK WITHIN OUR SYSTEM.
DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU'RE JUST USED TO GO OUT AND YOU DRILL YOUR WELL, TH TH THEY, THEY STILL HAVE TO MEET ALL OF THOSE STANDARDS THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO MEET, EVEN IF YOU FELL INTO CATEGORY ONE, IS THERE FOR THERE? YES.
I AGREE WITH MOST OF THE COMMENTS ON DISREGARDING DOMESTIC WELLS, UM, YOU SAID THERE'S A LIMIT OF TWO ACRES OR LESS, AND BECAUSE THERE'S NO THEY'RE EXEMPT FROM GOING OVER TO GSA AND GETTING A PERMIT, RIGHT.
OR WAS THERE OTHER STAFF THAT GET A PERMIT FROM THE GSA, CORRECT.
UNDER, UNDER WHAT WE WOULD PROPOSE MOVING FORWARD WITH AS AN AMENDED ORDINANCE, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH OUR, WITH OUR CURRENT PRACTICE.
AND WHAT'S IN SIX BECAUSE I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF 3, 4, 5 ACRES PARCELS OUT THERE.
AND SOMETIMES THEY JUST USE IT FOR CATTLE OR NOT NECESSARILY FOR FARMING.
UH, BUT SOMETIMES THEY, THEY DO.
UM, SO IF THEY WANTED TO GET A, UH, A, UH, IRRIGATION, WELL, THEY PROBABLY HAVE TO GO TO THE GSA AFTER, AFTER TWO ACRES.
SUPERVISOR PER WELL, JUST TO CLARIFICATION, THAT'S TWO ACRE FEET OF WATER, CORRECT.
NO PARCEL SAYS ANYTHING UNDER TWO ACRE FEET PER YEAR OF EXTRACTED WATERS EXEMPT.
AND THE OTHER THING, IF I MAY I SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES IS ONE OF THE GSS THAT I'M INVOLVED IN IS THESE TURLOCK.
AND THEY DO NOT HAVE A, UM, AN APPROVED, UH, GSP HAS TO BE TO THE STATE BY JANUARY.
YOU KNOW? SO I, I MEAN, I TH THERE, THAT'S KIND OF THE ONE I'M REALLY THINKING OF, EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER ONE I SERVE ON, I, YOU KNOW, I GET IT RIGHT.
WE, WE SHOULD BE FARTHER ALONG IN OUR PREPARATION.
SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I JUST, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THESE TURLOCK, YOU KNOW, IT'S A LITTLE TOUGHER AND WE'RE IN THE WEST HURLOCK AS WELL.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT KIND OF DRIVES MY JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME THAT GIVES THEM FROM JANUARY TO MAYBE APRIL OR MAY TO, TO BE PREPARED.
SO IS THAT ENOUGH DIRECTION? NOPE.
MR. BROWN, MR. CHAIRMAN MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, AS YOU SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR DIRECTION I WANT TO MAKE SURE IS, IS, YOU KNOW, SOUNDS LIKE FROM WHAT I'VE HEARD UP HERE, THERE IS ENOUGH INTEREST FROM THE BOARD TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO STAFF'S NEXT STEP WOULD BE TO DRAFT AND LEDGE FORMAT AND AMENDED ORDINANCE, AND BRING BACK TO YOU FOR CONSIDERATION AS MR. HENDRICKSON MENTIONED ANYTHING, OR THE GOAL WOULD BE TO DO IT MAYBE IN DECEMBER.
UM, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE
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THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING THROUGH, YOU KNOW, WITH YOUR DESIRES ON THOSE AMENDMENTS, YOU KNOW, UH, MR. MAXEY OUTLINED MOST OF THEM, UM, THE ONE THAT I THINK I'M STILL, YOU KNOW, IS THE TIMEFRAME.UM, AND I THINK WE MIGHT HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY AT THE DAY OF THE ORDINANCE TO STILL, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WORK ON THAT AS LONG AS WE, DIDN'T NOT BE MORE RESTRICTIVE VERSUS MORE LENIENT.
AND I'M SORRY TO LOOK TO COUNSEL ON THE SPOT HERE A LITTLE BIT, BUT I THINK YOU MIGHT HAVE FLEXIBILITY IF YOU WERE TO BE MORE LENIENT AND NOT HAVE TO COME BACK.
THE OTHER THING IS, IS AS WE BRING BACK THE DRAFT AMENDMENT, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ENCAPSULATING THE CONCERNS OF THE BOARD.
BECAUSE AGAIN, THIS WAS ADOPTED IN 15, 2015 AFTER EXTENSIVE EFFORT DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOU CAN'T COME BACK AT A LATER TIME IN A MINUTE, BUT IT'S BEEN SIX YEARS PLUS SINCE WE HAVE.
AND SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, MORE, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO GRAB IT AND ENCAPSULATE MOST OF THE ISSUES THAT THE BOARD IS MAYBE INTERESTED IN AMENDING AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I'M LOOKING AT MY COLLEAGUES AND WELL, I THINK I'VE GIVEN WHERE I THINK THE DIRECTION SHOULD GO.
I, I MEAN, I WOULD ENCOURAGE ANYBODY ELSE.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE AND SPEAK NOW, OR, OR, YOU KNOW, WE CAN ALWAYS SEE THE BENEFIT OF, I GUESS, THIS, THIS THE, EXACTLY WE CAN, YOU CAN ASK TO CHANGE IT LATER, BUT I FEEL, I FEEL LIKE I'VE GIVEN WHAT I THINK WOULD BE THE DIRECTION THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN AN ORDINANCE TO COME BACK.
UM, AND THEN IF I DON'T LIKE IT, THEN WE CAN CHANGE IT THEN, BUT I DON'T WANT TO WASTE STAFF'S TIME.
AND, AND DON'T WANT TO JUST KEEP REHASHING THE OLD, YOU KNOW, THE SAME STUFF.
SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANYTHING AND CEO BROWN, I THINK THAT GIVES YOU ENOUGH DIRECTION.
BUT IF THERE'S SPECIFICALLY SOMETHING THAT YOU NEED MORE CLARIFICATION ON, I WOULD ASK IT NOW SO THAT WE CAN JUST GET IT OUT THERE.
AND THEN, UM, STAFF KNOWS WHAT TO DO.
I WOULD SAY THE, THE AREA WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND WHAT'S BEEN PRETTY MUCH PRESENTED TO YOU AROUND THE AMENDMENT IS GEARED TOWARDS THE ACTUAL APPROVAL OF WELLS, WHICH, UH, RELATED TO THE PERMIT PROCESS, WHICH WE'D BE LOOKING TO BASICALLY ASKED FOR THE GSA CONCURRENCE ON THAT BEFORE PROCESSING.
SO THAT'S ESSENTIALLY THE AMENDMENTS.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S IN SIMPLE WORDS, IS WE NEED SOMETHING FROM THE GSA SAYING YES OR NO, YOU KNOW, BEFORE WE AUTHORIZE THE WELL, UM, AND THEN THE NEXT PIECE IS JUST IMPLEMENTATION DATE.
AND I KNOW STAFF HAD ORIGINALLY PRESENTED A JANUARY TIMEFRAME.
I I'VE HEARD KIND OF NOT JUST BE DIRECT, SIGNING, DIFFERENT CONVERSATIONS UP HERE.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, AND AGAIN, WE CAN BRING IT TO YOU WITH A JANUARY DATE AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, MAYBE LOOK AT IT AT THAT POINT, WHETHER IT GOES LONGER.
AND I THINK YOU HAVE THE FLEXIBILITY THAT TO GIVE.
SO YOU HAVE MORE THOUGHT AND TIMEFRAMES TO THINK ABOUT IT AND HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR CONSTITUENTS ALSO.
SO YOU MAKE A DECISION YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH, OKAY, WELL, WELL WATER IS A DEEP SUBJECT HERE IN MERSEYSIDE COUNTY.
SO AS I LOOK AT THAT, THE, HOW IT WORKS SLIDE RIGHT UNDER THE WELLS IN THE GSA IS ITEM NUMBER TWO IS GSA PROVIDES A CONSISTENCY, DETERMINATION.
UM, I MEAN, I, THAT'S WHAT I, I, I PICK THEM, WE'RE DOING RIGHT.
UM, SOMEBODY GOES TO THE GSA AND, AND, AND JUST FOR COMMON TERMINOLOGY THAT I THINK MOST OF US ARE USED TO AS A CANON WILL SERVE LETTER.
YOU KNOW, YOU CAN DO IT AND, YOU KNOW, AND THEN IT COMES TO THE COUNTY AND THE COUNTY SAYS, OKAY, YOU KNOW, THE G IT'S, THE GSA FINDS IT, UM, DOABLE.
AND THEN, AND THEN WE PROCEED FORWARD WITH THE ADMINISTRATIVE SIDE, WHICH IS THE DISTANCE, THE DEPTH OF THE, UM, THE CASING SIZE, THE, WELL, I DON'T KNOW, W W I DON'T KNOW ABOUT CASING SIZE, WHERE, WHERE THAT WOULD COME FROM, BUT, UH, MAYBE YOU COULD GIVE US SOME MORE GUIDANCE.
UH, BUT, BUT ANYWAYS, UM, AND THEN HOW IT'S SEALED.
IT JUST, W I GUESS I DO HAVE A QUESTION MAYBE FOR MY COLLEAGUES, UM, YOU KNOW, MY REQUEST FOR AN APRIL OR MAY, UM, IMPLEMENTATION.
I, YOU KNOW, IF, IF YOU THINK THAT'S A BAD IDEA, YOU KNOW, SAY, OR IF YOU THINK THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, THEN SAY, I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO STAFF, UH, RATHER THAN HAVING THAT DECIDED ON DECEMBER 16TH.
SUPERVISOR SILVER TO THE CHAIR.
IF WE WENT THROUGH WITH THE CURRENT TIMELINE THAT WAS OUT WAS OUTLINED IN THE PRESENTATION, WHICH WOULD SAY LIKE A JANUARY 22 IMPLEMENTATION PERIOD, AND WE HAD A PUBLIC HEARING NEXT MONTH IN DECEMBER.
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AT THAT POINT, COULD WE SAY, YEAH, WE'VE CHANGED OUR MINDS AND ARE CURRENTLY WITH THE WAY IT WORKS IS LIKE, UM, NEW ORDINANCES OR CHANGES TO ORDINANCE TAKE 30 DAYS TO GO INTO EFFECT AT THAT POINT, IF WE SAID, UH, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO MAKE IT NOT GO INTO EFFECT UNTIL APRIL WOULD THAT, WOULD THAT CAUSE US TO HAVE TO COME BACK REISSUE EVERYTHING AND START THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS OVER AGAIN? OR IS THAT SOMETHING, AND HERE'S THE REASON WHY I HAVE A MEETING SET UP LATER THIS WEEK, WHERE I'M ACTUALLY GOING TO GO SPEAK TO SOME OF MY GSA IS, AND TIMING WISE, I JUST COULDN'T GET IT ON THE CALENDAR UNTIL LATER I WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION.I MEAN, I KNOW WHAT MY THOUGHTS ARE, BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S GOING TO AFFECT THEM.
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
AND, AND AGAIN, IF THEY'RE READY TO GO, THEN I'M GOING TO, I'M GOING TO DO WHAT, WHAT MY CONSTITUENTS WANT ME TO DO.
IF THEY NEED, THEY SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, AN APRIL TIMELINE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT IS MUCH BETTER, OR MY COLLEAGUE COMES BACK AND SAYS, ONE OF HIS REALLY SAY, YOU KNOW, AN APRIL OR MARCH TIMELINE IS, IS MUCH BETTER.
I WANT TO KIND OF HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY, BUT AGAIN, NOT WANTING TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS, THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO BE, YOU KNOW, RE YOU'D HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE IT AND START THE HEARING PROCESS.
SO I KNOW THAT WAS LONG-WINDED.
BUT DO YOU HAVE AN ANSWER FOR THAT, UH, SUPERVISOR SOLVERA? I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESEARCH THIS QUESTION IN DEPTH.
I DO BELIEVE THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY IN IMPLEMENTATION.
I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT DURATION OF THAT FLEXIBILITY.
UM, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY ALSO DEPEND ON THE STEPS LEADING UP TO ADOPTION OF THE ORDINANCE.
UM, UH, I'M JUST TO UPDATE, I HAVE GOOD, UH, ATTORNEYS IN MY OFFICE WHO ARE GIVING ME ANSWERS AS WE SPEAK.
UH, WE CAN HAVE A STATED EFFECTIVE DATE, UH, RATHER THAN THE AUTOMATIC 30 DAYS ALSO.
DOES THAT HAVE TO BE PART OF THE, THE WAY YOU, UH, AGENDIZED OR NOTICE THE PUBLIC HEARING, OR COULD YOU, UH, NOTICE IT AS 30 DAYS, OR WOULD YOU JUST NOTICE IT AS, AND WE'RE GOING TO COME UP WITH AN EFFECTIVE DATE.
I THINK THAT YOU DO HAVE FLEXIBILITY WITH THE EFFECTIVE DATE ON THE DAY OF THE HEARING.
BUT THAT I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT SUBJECT TO, UH, ABSOLUTELY THE RESEARCH.
NO, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT BASED ON THAT, THEN WE WILL DRAFT AND WHAT'S NOTICED TO THE PUBLIC IS JANUARY, UNLESS I HEAR ANYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THEN THAT WAY YOU'RE ACTUALLY GIVING THE PUBLIC MORE OPPORTUNITY IF YOU WERE TO COME BACK AND THE BOARD COLLECTIVELY SAID LATER, IF WE NOTICE IT LATER, NOW YOU'RE BEING MORE RESTRICTIVE.
SO WE WILL, I THINK WE'D GIVE YOU GIVE MORE FLEXIBILITY AND MORE TO THE BENEFIT OF THE PUBLIC IF YOU WERE TO EXTEND THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE LATER.
I'M JUST GOING TO REITERATE THAT WE HAVE A GSA THAT DOESN'T HAVE TO TURN THEIR GSP UNTIL AFTER WHAT WOULD BE OUR EFFECTIVE DATE.
SO IT JUST, I DON'T KNOW, IT JUST DOESN'T SIT RIGHT.
THAT WE WOULD, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO PUSH AN EFFECTIVE DATE IN JANUARY BEFORE THEY MAY HAVE SUBMITTED THEIR GSP.
I, I, I, AND THE OTHERS THEY'VE ALL HAD TIME, RIGHT.
A YEAR AND A HALF, BUT THIS ONE GSP IS NOT CRITICALLY OVERDRAFTED AND, AND I THINK DESERVES A LITTLE MORE TIME.
WELL, I WOULD DO LOOK AT, WE BASE IT OFF THE GSP EFFECTIVE DATE OR GSP.
UM, WELL, I, I WOULD, SO, SO MY PREFERENCE WOULD BE THAT THE EARLIEST IT WOULD TAKE EFFECT WOULD BE FEBRUARY 1ST.
AND THEN IF AT OUR DECEMBER HEARING, WE DECIDE WE CAN LET IT GO LONGER THAN THEN.
I'M ONLY ONE VOTE, BUT I JUST THINK IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE EFFECTIVE DATE BEFORE THEY'VE HAD TO TURN IN THEIR GSP.
BECAUSE THEN THAT REALLY IS, THAT PUTS OUR ORDINANCE AT A CONFLICT WITH THE S WAS SIGMA.
AND I DON'T WANT US TO DO THAT EITHER.
AND I JUST, AND MAYBE THERE'S A MISSING, AND I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING CLEAR FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, THAT WAS A DATE THAT WAS ORIGINALLY MOVED FORWARD, BUT WE DO NOT FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE, HAVE A, A STRONG DESIRE TO PUSH A JANUARY.
YOU KNOW? I MEAN, YEAH, WE WANT TO GET IT DONE, BUT I'LL PUT MYSELF FOR ME, WHETHER IT'S FEBRUARY, MARCH, OR APRIL.
SORRY, IT IT'S MOVING FORWARD.
SO WE'RE COMFORTABLE EITHER WAY.
SO I APOLOGIZE IF THERE A PERCEPTION THAT STAFF WAS TRYING TO DRY, IT IS NOT THE CASE.
YOU KNOW, I WAS TRYING TO GET BOARD THIS INPUT AS FAR AS THE IMPLEMENTATION DATE.
NO, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS SURVIVES SOLERA? I'M PERFECTLY GOOD WITH A FEBRUARY 1ST THAT THAT WORKS.
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THAT DAY, RIGHT? YEAH.BUT IF IT, IF, IF IT HELPS MY COLLEAGUES SLEEP A LITTLE BETTER, KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE, AT LEAST UNTIL AFTER THEY TURN THEIR, THEIR, THEIR GSPN, THEN I THAT'S.
SO I WOULD SUGGEST THEN PART OF MY NEW DIRECTION THAT I'M SHARING IS, IS INSTEAD OF IT SAYING JANUARY OF 20, 22, IT SAYS NO EARLIER THAN FEBRUARY 1ST OF 20, 22 SUBJECT TO, WE MIGHT MAKE IT EVEN LONGER.
I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT SINCE I, YOU KNOW, I SIT ON THE TURLOCK WEST, UH, GSA.
SO, UH, I THINK, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NO WORRY ABOUT, ABOUT THE WATER RIGHT NOW.
JUST THEY HAVE MORE SURFACE WATER.
SO, UM, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THEM DELAYING.
SO AT THE END OF THE DISCUSSION, OKAY.
WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK.
WE'LL GO AHEAD AND RETURN FROM THE BREAK AT THIS TIME.
I THINK WE'RE AT ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES.
NEXT IS ADMINISTRATIVE SERVICES ITEM 26.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE AT THE DIAS THING? NONE.
OH, IS IT? I DIDN'T NOBODY SECOND.
AND THAT WAS SILVERA SECONDING THE MOTION.
SO I DO HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
LET'S GO AHEAD AND CALL FOR THE ROLL CALL.
SUPERVISOR PERERA, SUPERVISOR SILVERA, SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
NEXT IS FIRE ITEMS. 27 THROUGH 30 MOTION TO APPROVE ESPINOSA.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY.
LET'S CALL FOR THE SUPERVISOR.
YOU PROFESSOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SILVERA, SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
NEXT IS LIBRARY ITEMS 31 AND 32.
PLEASE NOTE, THESE ITEMS REQUIRE A FORFEITS VOTE MOTION TOOK THE ROOF HAS BEEN SOLVERA SECOND.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION OR ANY QUESTIONS I WANTED TO COMMENT ON ITEM 32, MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD SUPERVISOR SOLVERA.
UH, DO YOU JUST WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT THIS IS, UM, PART OF PROVING THIS ACTION TODAY IS THERE WAS A GRANT FOR $75,000 TO CREATE AN OUTDOOR LEARNING SPACE AT THE SENTINEL LIBRARY.
UM, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO OUR COUNTY LIBRARY AND AMY TAYLOR, UM, AND THE FOLKS THAT HELPED WITH SUBMITTING THAT GRANT.
AND WHILE WE'RE EXCITED, UM, IT'S GOING TO GIVE OUR FOLKS OUT IN SANTA ANA AT THE LITTLE LIBRARY THAT THEY HAVE OUT THERE.
UM, SOME NEW OPPORTUNITIES, SO WITHOUT DOOR LEARNING SPACES AND, UH, REALLY IT'S PROVIDES SAFE SPACES FOR CHILDREN AGES ZERO THROUGH FIVE.
AND, UH, THIS IS TO THE FOLKS IN SANTA NELLA.
I KNOW YOU GUYS WANT TO PARK YOU GUYS CALL AND, UM, AND I DO WANT TO SHARE THEM AND TAKE THE SECOND TO SHARE THAT.
UH, ACTUALLY WE DIDN'T DO VOICEMAILS ACTUALLY GOT SOME VOICEMAILS ON MY LINE FROM SOME FOLKS FROM SANTA NELLA, UM, SAYING THAT THEY STILL WANT TO PARK, WE ARE WORKING ON IT.
I'M HOPING TO BE ABLE TO, UH, TO RESPOND AND, AND, AND SAY SOMETHING SOON ON THAT, BUT JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THIS ITEM.
I THOUGHT I SAW SUPERVISOR PEREIRA.
WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND LET'S CALL FOR THE VOTE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES, SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
UM, IT'S A, A MOTION TO, YOU KNOW, I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE MOTION TO, BUT ALSO TO, UH, TO APPROVE AS THE SELLER PROPERTIES IN MERCER COUNTY, UH, YOU KNOW, THE LAST TWO YEARS, I KNOW THAT THE TAX COLLECTORS, BECAUSE OF THE PANDEMIC, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH TAX LIENS, THAT PEOPLE DON'T PAY THEIR TAXES, BUT WE'VE GIVEN THEM A LOT MORE TIME TO, UH, YOU KNOW, CATCH UP AND PAY THE PROPERTY TAXES.
BUT IN A WAY IT IS A MISTAKE COUNTY WANT TO TAKE OVER AND SELL THEIR PROPERTIES.
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THE LIST IS ON HERE.IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THE, THE LIST, THERE'S A LIST ATTACHED FOR EVERYBODY THAT'S LOOKING.
AND, AND, YOU KNOW, UH, I KNOW THAT PEOPLE OUT THERE TOO ARE TRYING TO BUY PROPERTIES, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR TAX COLLECTOR OR MARCET COUNTY IS ALWAYS GIVEN A LOT OF LEEWAY IN WHEN IT COMES TO PAYING BACK YOUR, YOUR PROPERTY TAXES.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PEOPLE KNOW THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND TALK TO OUR TAX COLLECTOR AND, UH, WORK OUT A DEAL WHERE YOU PAY A PORTION OF YOUR BACK PROPERTY TAXES, AS LONG AS YOU'RE UP TO DATE WITH YOUR CURRENT TEXAS.
SO SHE'S VERY WELL AT, UH, BEING SUPPORTIVE.
SO, UH, COME IN AND TALK TO A TAX COLLECTOR.
SO OUR SUPERVISOR FOR, YEAH, I, YOU KNOW, THE LAST THING I WANT TO DO AS A, AS A BOARD MEMBER IS TO VOTE, UH, TO TAKE SOMEBODY'S, UH, PROPERTY.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, BUT IF YOU DON'T PAY YOUR TAXES, THAT'S ONE OF THE EXPERIENCES.
UM, BUT I JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE THAT, THAT HAVE PROPERTY THAT'S ON THIS LIST, YOU KNOW, PROPERTY VALUES ARE UP RIGHT NOW.
AND SO YOU'RE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ONE OF YOUR OPTIONS MAY BE TO SELL THE PROPERTY, GET YOUR, UM, TAXES PAID AND HAVE THE DIFFERENCE TO GO ONTO A NEW PROPERTY.
SO JUST WANTED TO REMIND PEOPLE OF THAT.
I WOULD RECOMMEND SUPERVISOR SOLVERA AND I AGREE NONE OF US ARE HERE TO, TO, TO WANT TO LIKE, YOU KNOW, MOVE PEOPLE OUT.
BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, WHEN I CALLED DOWN TO THE TAX COLLECTOR'S OFFICE THAT THEY SHARED ANYBODY THAT'S ON HERE IS AT LEAST FIVE YEARS DELINQUENT.
SO, SO YOU, YOU REALLY, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SITTING HERE AND SOMEBODY, YOU KNOW, LIKE IT HAD HAD A ROUGH YEAR OR TWO AND DIDN'T PAY THEIR TAXES ONE YEAR AND WE'RE, WE'RE READY TO SELL IT.
THEY HAVE TO BE AT LEAST FIVE YEARS DELINQUENT.
UM, AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAVE TO LIST THEM FOR WHAT THE, UM, W AT LEAST WHAT THE TAXES ARE, THAT'S THE MINIMUM BID.
SO IF YOU DO HAVE THE AGENDA AND YOU PULL UP THAT, THAT LIST THAT IT SAYS BID ON THERE, THAT'S THE MINIMUM BID THAT'S TO COVER THE TAXES.
THAT'S THE TAXES THAT ARE OWED WITH PENALTIES AND INTEREST UP UNTIL NOW.
I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE OF PROPERTIES.
IT'S THE OLD FOX HILL DEVELOPMENT OUT IN MY DISTRICT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE THERE, THEY'RE THE EIGHT POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS THAT'S ON THIS LIST OF MINIMUM BIDS.
UH, A GOOD CHUNK OF THAT COMES FROM THAT, UH, OUT THERE IN THAT DEFUNCT, UH, FOX, FOX HILLS DEVELOPMENT.
I JUST, I KNOW THAT I BROUGHT THIS UP AND I'VE TALKED TO THE TAX COLLECTOR BEFORE BY LAW.
WE HAVE TO AT LEAST PUT IT OUT THERE AT THE, AT WHAT THEY OWE ON IT.
AND THEN, AND IN READING THROUGH THE STAFF REPORT, IF THERE ARE NO TAKERS ON IT AT THAT POINT, THEN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A POTENTIAL THAT THE TAX COLLECTOR COULD COME UP WITH A REASONABLE NUMBER.
CAUSE I ALWAYS WORRIED ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT THEY'RE, THEY'RE BASICALLY THE TAX BILL THAT THEY'LL NEVER GET.
THIS IS GOING TO SIT THERE AND COLLECT TAXES FOREVER BECAUSE IT'S SO HIGH THAT WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET IT OR NEVER, NO ONE'S EVER GONNA BE ABLE TO BUY IT.
IT JUST WOULDN'T BE FEASIBLE FOR THEM TO BUY IT.
SO I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, WE GOT TO START THE PROCESS THERE NOW INTO THAT PROCESS.
AND, UM, I HOPE THAT WE CAN GET SOME RESOLUTION THAT, BECAUSE THE WAY THAT I LOOK AT IT IS, IS IF SOMEBODY ELSE BUYS IT NOW, WE GOT A NEW TAX PAYER THAT WILL ACTUALLY BE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES ON IT, VERSUS JUST LETTING IT SIT THERE AND ACCUMULATE FOREVER TO WHERE IT'LL NEVER GET BE FROM WHERE IT'S LIKE UNDERWATER.
SO, UM, BUT THANK YOU TO TARA DOWN IN, UH, SHE'S THE DEPUTY TAX COLLECTOR, RIGHT? UH, TARA HERNANDEZ IS THE CHIEF DEPUTY TAX COLLECTOR.
BUT I HAVE QUALIFIED STAFF THAT THEY FOCUS ON ALL THESE TAX DEFAULTED PROPERTIES.
WELL, BEFORE THE FIVE-YEAR PERIOD, WE BEGGED THEM TO COME IN AND ESTABLISH PAYMENT PLANS, REGRETFULLY FOR WHATEVER REASON, FINANCIAL, UH, OBLIGATION OR INABILITY, THEY'RE UNABLE TO MEET THEIR DEFAULT ATTACK, UH, CLEAR UP THEIR DEFAULTED TAX STATUS.
I WILL SAY, UM, THE BOARD ITEM WENT AND OF COURSE IS ON YOUR AGENDA WITH THE FULL LIST.
I'M HAPPY TO SAY ALREADY TWO PROPERTIES HAVE REDEEMED.
SO IT'S OUR HOPE TO GET THAT LIST WAY DOWN AGAIN.
FOX HILLS IS 6 MILLION OF THE 8 MILLION THAT'S ON THE LIST.
WE CAN GET THOSE PROPERTIES OFF IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE THAT WILL PAY TAXES GOING FORWARD.
IT DOES NO ONE ANY GOOD TO HAVE THESE PROPERTIES SITTING OUT THERE.
SO, UM, AGAIN, I WANT TO COME IN MY STAFF, UH, AND, UH, SUPERVISOR SEVERITY.
YOU HAD SOME REALLY GREAT QUESTIONS AND TARA OF COURSE, WAS AVAILABLE TO CLEAR THAT UP YESTERDAY.
SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.
THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS PUT PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES OR TAKE THEIR PROPERTY.
AND THEN THE LAST, YOU KNOW, THIS AUCTION ISN'T UNTIL FEBRUARY 25TH THROUGH THE 28TH IS WHEN IT'S SCHEDULED.
SO THERE IS, THIS IS ANOTHER, EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR, FOR FOLKS TO BE ABLE TO TAKE A LOOK ON HERE AND YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM, AND
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I GET IT, IT'S, IT'S ALL IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER, BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES.UM, AND I THINK THEY'RE PROBABLY JUST LOTS, BUT I KNOW THERE'S SOME OUT IN THE SANTA NELLA AREA, W WE'RE NOT TALKING HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS HERE.
WE'RE TALKING A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS.
AND SO I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT SQUARED AWAY.
UM, AND THIS IS ANOTHER REMINDER.
SO AS THE COUNTY, WE HAVE ALREADY PAID OUR PORTION TO EVERYBODY ELSE.
WHEN WE COLLECT THE PROPERTY TAX, THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS, THE SPECIAL DISTRICTS, UM, THE CITIES, THEY'VE ALL GOTTEN THEIR PIECE.
SO REALLY THIS IS, THIS COMES BACK TO THE COUNTY.
WE'VE ALREADY, WE'VE ALREADY PUT THE MONEY OUT.
I AGREE WITH YOU AND, AND IT'S REQUIRED BY LAW.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? I THINK I DO HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
FOR OUR SECOND DAY, WE HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE LET'S CALL FOR THE VOTE? SUPERVISOR HAS VANESSA YES.
IT PROVIDES YOUR PERERA SUPERVISOR, SYLVIA I SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL MOTION PASSES.
NEXT IS BOARD APPOINTMENTS ITEMS 36 THROUGH 39.
PLEASE NOTE, WE WILL BE TAKING ITEMS 38 AND 39 SEPARATELY.
THERE WAS A TYPOGRAPHICAL ERROR ON THE INDIVIDUAL'S NAME WHO IS BEING CONSIDERED FOR REAPPOINTMENT TO THE CHARLESTON DRAINAGE DISTRICT BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
THE NAME SHOULD READ JAKE BARCELONA'S STAFF REQUESTS THAT THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS TAKE ACTION ON THIS ITEM AS AMENDED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR ITEMS 36 AND 37.
NOW MOTION TO APPROVE 36 AND 37.
IT WAS ESPINOSA STILL THERE A SECOND.
SO WE DO HAVE A FIRST AND A SECOND.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION SEEING NONE WHAT'S CALLED THE VOTES ON ITEMS 36 AND 30 SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
SUPERVISOR PERRERA, SUPERVISOR SILVERA, SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
I MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY ITEM 38.
THIS IS SOMETHING WE DO CUSTOMARILY, UH, THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, JUST BECAUSE OF THE, UH, ORGANIZATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
THEY NEED TO HAVE ON THEIR BOOKS WHO IS GOING TO BE THE APPOINTEES.
SO THE FIRST ONE HERE IS RURAL COUNTY REPRESENTATIVES OF CALIFORNIA.
UM, I'VE REPRESENTED, UH, SINCE, UM, WOW.
FOUR YEARS IMMEDIATE PAST CHAIR.
I'D REALLY LIKE TO CONTINUE TO REPRESENT MERCY COUNTY RCRC.
I GOT A FEW BATTLES ON FIGHTING THAT I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE WELL.
UM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THAT WE CONTINUE YOU AS THE PRIMARY, AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE AS THE ALTERNATE SECOND.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? LET'S CALL FOR THE VOTE SUPERVISOR ESPENOSA YES.
HI, SUPERVISOR SILVERA, SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
AND I MOTION PASSES UNANIMOUSLY.
NEXT IS BOARD APPOINTMENTS, ITEM 39.
AND THIS IS A TO NOMINATE A DELEGATE AND ALTERNATE FOR THE MEMBER OF THE CALIFORNIA STATE ASSOCIATION OF COUNTIES.
THIS IS A C SAC BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
I KNOW WE DIDN'T DISCUSS THIS PRIOR, BUT, UM, I BELIEVE SUPERVISOR SOLVERA IS THE CURRENT C SAC REPRESENTATIVE FROM MERSEYSIDE COUNTY AND OUR ALTERNATE IS SUPERVISOR, UH, JOSEPH.
BUT YEAH, AND I, I TOO WOULD, YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO CONTINUE ON AS, AS THE PRIMARY AND, UM, AND HAVE JOSH AS THE SECONDARY OR THE, EXCUSE ME AS THE ALTERNATE SO LONG AS HE IS WILLING, I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION.
IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM SEEING NONE WE'LL CALL FOR THE VOTE SUPERVISOR SPINOSA YES.
SUPERVISOR PERRERA SUPERVISOR SILVERA, SUPERVISOR MCDANIEL.
AND WE WILL START TO MY LEFT WITH SUPERVISOR.
SO BARBARA, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS.
UH, YOU KNOW, AS A MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS, WE'RE ALL MEMBERS OF THE MCG GOVERNING BOARD AND WE SPENT THIS PAST WEEKEND.
UM, WELL, FRIDAY NIGHT AND SATURDAY, UM, WE SPIN IT OUT ON THE BEAUTIFUL WEST SIDE OF MERCEDE COUNTY AT THE MISSION, UH, FOR, FOR A RETREAT.
AND JUST WANTED TO SHARE WITH FOLKS THAT, THAT, UM, THREE OF US WERE THERE AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR PEDROZA AND SUPERVISORS
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WEREN'T ABLE TO MAKE IT, BUT JUST REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS ON KIND OF LIKE LONG-TERM WHERE WE SEE THE ORGANIZATION, THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE DISCUSSED.UM, AND JUST, IT WAS, IT WAS A REALLY GOOD WEEKEND.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT WE, I KNOW THAT STAFF AT MCG GOT A LOT OUT OF IT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALWAYS THAT PIECE WHERE WE GOT TO INTERACT WITH ALL THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AT MCG AND NOT JUST IN A MEETING SETTING, BUT WE'VE GOT TO HAVE DINNER AND, AND CHAT AND SO A REALLY GOOD PROGRAM.
AND, UM, AND I'M SORRY THAT, THAT, THAT MY TWO COLLEAGUES THAT WEREN'T ABLE TO BE THERE MISS IT, I THINK WE GOT A LOT OUT OF IT.
AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS, IS, UM, I KNOW IT'S A LITTLE BIT LATE IN COMING, BUT I WANT TO ADJOURN TODAY'S MEETING IN HONOR OF JIM O'BANNON.
UM, JAMES O'BANNON, UH, WAS BORN MAY 14TH, 1941, AND HE PASSED AWAY ON OCTOBER 3RD, 2021.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF FOLKS KNOW JERRY OBAN IN IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, UH, JIM'S DAD WAS ALSO EMORY O'BANNON, SO IT REALLY HAS A CONNECTION TO, UH, THE COUNTY OF MERCE SAID GOOD LOCAL FAMILY, HARD WORKERS.
UM, JIM SERVED, I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY YEARS, BUT HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF CCID, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE LARGEST IRRIGATION DISTRICTS IN, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IN THE VALLEY FOR SURE.
UM, HE WAS THE PRESIDENT OF THAT BOARD FOR LIKE SOME CRAZY AMOUNT OF YEARS.
HE HAD BEEN THERE FOR QUITE SOME TIME.
UM, HE WAS, UH, WHEN I STARTED AS A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN, HE WAS, HE WAS A VOLUNTEER FIREMAN AT THE DAS PALS WILDFIRE FIRE STATION, AND THEN THEY KIND OF SPLIT OFF A LITTLE BIT AND HE WAS STILL THE PRESIDENT OF THE VOLUNTEER ASSOCIATION, A MEMBER OF THE DAS PALS WISE SERVICE CLUB, JUST A REALLY BIG ASSET TO THAT COMMUNITY AROUND THERE.
UM, I KNOW THAT HIS WIFE, NANCY AND I HAD, I KNOW HIS SON, GREG, UM, YOU KNOW, I MISS HIM DEARLY, UH, BUT, BUT JUST A GOOD FRIEND AND A GOOD, JUST A GOOD MEMBER OF THAT DAS PALS WIDE AREA AND HE WILL BE MISSED.
SO I WANT TO, AGAIN, ADJOURN TODAY'S BOARD MEETING IN HONOR OF JIM O'BANION TINCTURE.
UH, SO, UH, THIS PAST THURSDAY I WAS OUT IN GUSTINE FOR THEIR VETERANS DAY CELEBRATION.
AND, AND SO I JUST WANT TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO, UH, CHRIS WALTON AND, UH, THE, UH, VFW AND AMERICAN LEGION, UH, ORGANIZATIONS OUT THERE FOR PUTTING ON SUCH A FINE EVENT TO HONOR OUR VETERANS.
UM, UH, IT, UH, IT'S, IT'S KIND OF AN INTERESTING DYNAMIC.
THERE WAS ONLY FOUR VETERANS RIDING ON THE, ON THE FLOAT, BUT THERE WAS ABOUT 25 OF THEM THAT WERE STANDING ALONGSIDE.
AND, AND SO, UH, HOPEFULLY NEXT YEAR WE CAN ENCOURAGE THEM TO BE ON THE FLOAT.
YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, MY DAD WAS IN THE NAVY AND, AND, UH, HAD TO HAD KIND OF A CUSH JOB AND NEVER REALLY THOUGHT OF HIMSELF AS A VETERAN BECAUSE HIS LIFE WAS NEVER REALLY AT RISK.
AND, AND SO I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THINK THEY DON'T DESERVE THE HONOR, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS VIETNAM VETERANS THERE, THERE WAS KOREAN WAR VETERANS THERE.
AND, AND, AND, AND NOT ONLY THOSE THAT SERVED IN, IN FOREIGN WARS, BUT, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WHO SIGNS UP REALLY, YOU KNOW, SIGNS A BLANK CHECK WITH THEIR LIFE TO, UH, TO THE CITIZENS OF THE UNITED STATES.
AND SO, UM, ANYWAYS, I'D LIKE TO SEE THOSE FOLKS, UH, BE HONORED A LITTLE, A LITTLE, UM, UH, BE WILLING TO ACCEPT, UH, US HONORING THEM.
UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE HUMBLE PEOPLE AND, AND, UH, ANYWAYS, UH, AND, UH, THEN I ALSO WANT TO THANK, UH, OUR VSO OFFICE HERE AT MERSEYSIDE COUNTY FOR DOING, WHAT'S KIND OF A, YOU KNOW, AN UNPRECEDENTED KIND OF PARADE, BUT, UM, AND I WAS IN GUSTINE AND I MISSED THE MAJORITY OF IT.
I WAS ABLE TO CATCH THE TAIL END, BUT, UH, ANYWAYS, I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE OUR VETERANS AND THOSE THAT SERVE.
SO I JUST WANTED TO SHARE ALL THAT WITH YOU.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR PEDROZA.
UM, YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, I WANT TO ECHO WHAT SUPERVISOR PRAYER SAID.
I WASN'T AT THE GUSTINE, UH, EVENT NOR COULD I GO TO THE, UM, THE PARADE.
UM, BUT I WAS, UH, IN DOWNTOWN, BUT I WAS ABLE TO GO TO THE FIELD OF HONOR OPENING CEREMONY.
UH, THIS WAS A WEEK AGO, SATURDAY IN, UM, OUT HERE AT THE COLLEGE.
AND I THINK THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE COOLEST THINGS THAT WE HAVE GOING FOR US.
I GET TO DRIVE BY IT, OR I GOT TO DRIVE BY IT EVERY DAY AND SEEING IT, YOU KNOW, IN THE MORNINGS WHEN IT WAS FOGGY.
AND, UM, UH, WHEN THEY OPENED IT UP, IT WAS, IT WAS WINDY AND ALL THE FLAGS WERE BLOWING ITSELF AND THERE WAS A GOOD TURNOUT AND GOOD CROWD.
AND, UM, AND SO, UH, I, I WAS ABLE TO DO THAT.
UM, I WILL CONTINUE TO SAY THAT, UH, EVEN THOUGH I, I, UH, I GOT MY VACCINE AND MY BOOSTER, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS IS YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO TAKE.
AND SO I TRULY STILL CONTINUE TO ADVOCATE, UM, TO GET YOUR VACCINATION, UM, GET YOUR BOOSTER.
UM, I KNOW ONE OF MY COLLEAGUES JUST TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ZINC AND THE DOCTORS HAD SAID, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT REALLY WORKS.
TAKE YOUR VITAMINS, DO EVERYTHING THAT YOU, YOU CAN DO.
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UM, I BELIEVE THAT MY, YOU KNOW, THE IMPACTS ON ME HAVEN'T BEEN AS BAD JUST BECAUSE I, I WAS ABLE TO GET IT AND I GOT MY VACCINE EARLY.UM, UH, LUCKILY MY, MY, MY CHILDREN ARE BACK TO SCHOOL AND I GET TO COME BACK, UH, I'M OFF TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
SO, UM, I ALSO REALLY WANT TO, UM, SHARE MY, UH, THANKS TO MY COLLEAGUES ON THE BOARD, UM, AND OUR STAFF FOR SETTING UP THE ZOOMS AND, UM, UH, WILLING TO WORK WITH ME.
UH, DURING THIS TIME IT'S BEEN REALLY DIFFICULT FOR ME BEING THERE AS YOU GUYS KNOW, I'M A PERSON THAT REALLY LIKES TO BE THERE AND GET STUFF DONE AND, UM, AND HAVE THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TALK.
UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S, IT'S BEEN DIFFICULT, BUT I DID WANT TO SAY AGAIN, UH, I, I'M VERY THANKFUL, UM, TO, TO ALL OF YOU, UM, FOR, UM, WORKING WITH ME IN GETTING THIS TAKEN CARE OF, THANK YOU.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, SUPERVISOR, AND IT WAS A THANK YOU.
UM, LAST WEEK I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND THE, AND I WAS INVITED TO THE ICE SKATING RINK, GRAND OPENING IN AND OUT WATER.
AND ALONG WITH OUR CHAIR, UH, DARREN MCDANIEL, IT WAS A, UH, TURNED OUT TO BE A BEAUTIFUL ICE SKATING RINK THAT THE COMMUNITY WANTED.
AND, UH, AND THEY TURNED OUT, HE KNOWS, CAN BE A NICE FAMILY, UH, GATHERING, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RECREATION FAMILY USE.
AND I THINK THE INTELLECT, OUR RESIDENTS ARE ALWAYS ASKING FOR, UM, RECREATION AND FAMILY, YOU KNOW, EVENTS CENTERS, OR NOTHING.
THIS IS A, IT CAN BE A TEMPORARY ONE, BUT AT LEAST IT'LL BE A NICE PLACE WHERE MOST, UH, RESIDENTS IN MERCY SAID SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES CAN GO IN AND ATTEND.
AND, YOU KNOW, UH, LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A LOT OF FAMILY FUNDS, SO PLEASE GO TO ATWATER AND I CAN REMEMBER THAT, BUT I KNOW IT'S A RESUME.
DANIEL HAS IT ALSO, UH, REDISTRICTING WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF APPROVING ALMOST, UH, ONE OF THE MAPS THAT WAS SUBMITTED, UH, BALI NEXT MONTH ON THE 14TH, W MY MOST LIKELY APPROVED THE KNEE REDISTRICT IMPLANT.
I KNOW A LOT OF RESIDENTS CALL ME WHERE THEY DON'T LIKE BEING IN MY DISTRICT AND A LOT OF RESIDENTS, THEY WANT TO BE IN MY DISTRICT, OR DON'T WANT TO BE IN MY DISTRICT.
SO THIS IS A TIME WHERE YOU CAN CONTACT MY COLLEAGUES OR, OR ANYBODY, UH, ABOUT, YOU KNOW, CHOOSING ONE OF YOUR PREFERENTIAL MAPS THAT THAT WAS SUBMITTED ON NOVEMBER 2ND.
SO, UH, JUST PLEASE LOOK AT IT.
AND I KNOW WE HAVE A MEETING TONIGHT AT SIX 30, SO COMMENT AND, UH, YOU KNOW, VOICE YOUR OPINION ON WHICH ONE YOU WANT US TO APPROVE.
SO, UM, WITH THAT ALSO REGARDING PROPERTY, TEXAS, AGAIN, UH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE VOTING ON, UM, PROPERTY TAXES, BUT IT'S PART OF, UH, WHAT WE HAVE TO DO ALSO, UH, JUST A REMINDER THAT A LOT OF FAMILIES CHOOSE TO, UM, GET SOLAR FOR THEIR HOMES, BUT ALSO TOO, A LOT OF THEM WILL COME ATTACHED, UH, WHERE THERE WILL BE PAIN THAT, UH, THAT THE PRICE OF THE SOLAR, AND IT WILL BE ADDED TO YOUR PROPERTY TAXES AND EVENTUALLY TO SOME FAMILIES, A COST THEM, UH, THEIR HOMES, AND TO BE DELAYED IN THE, YOU KNOW, TO, TO, UH, HAVING, UH, NOT BEING ABLE TO PAY FOR THEIR, THEIR PROPERTY TAXES THAT MAYBE IT'LL AFFECT YOUR PAIN.
YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, YOU'RE YOU HAVE A HOME.
SO, UH, JUST BE, UH, GET INFORMED AND, UH, ABOUT WHAT THE, YOU KNOW, WHAT SOLAR CAN COST, EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BENEFIT, UH, IN, UM, IN BENEFITING FROM THE LOW COST OF ENERGY.
SO THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE DECEMBER 7TH AND THE SECOND MEETING AND, UH, AND, UH, FOR A BOARD MEETING, WE'LL PUT THE 14TH.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR COUNTY, COUNCIL, NOTHING, CEO BROWN, NOTHING.
UM, YES, THE ICE RINK AND ATWATER, I WOULD LIKE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT IT HAS BEEN VERY WELL, VERY WELL DONE, OLD TOWN ATWATER, UM, THE, UM, THE VISION OF ADAM REED AND BRAD KESSLER, THE WAY HE LIKES TO GET THINGS DONE.
IT'S, UH, IT'S PRETTY AMAZING OUT THERE.
UH, ONE THING THAT THE OLD TOWN ATWATER DID IS THEY GAVE EVERY STUDENT IN THE CITY OF ATWATER ONE TICKET.
AND SO THE FIRST TWO HOURS OF EVERY MORNING, THE SCHOOLS ARE BRINGING THEIR KIDS TO GET THEIR FIRST, A LOT OF THEM, THEIR FIRST CHANCE, AND PROBABLY ONLY CHANCE TO EVER ICE SKATE.
UM, AND THEN A NOMINAL DONATION BY, UM, UH, TIM ROSARI FOR HIS AUTO DEALERSHIPS HAS MADE THAT POSSIBLE.
UM, AND I GUESS THEY'RE ACTUALLY STARTING A HAYRIDE NOW ON THE WEEKEND.
SO NOT ONLY CAN YOU GO FOR A SKATE, YOU CAN GO FOR THE HAY RIDE, IT'S A NORMAN ROCKWELL EXPERIENCE.
SO I ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO GET OUT THERE.
UM, I, TO, UM, IT WASN'T QUITE THE PARADE, BUT THE VETERANS, UM, OUR VETERANS SERVICE OFFICE HERE AT MERCY COUNTY DID A GREAT JOB
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DRIVING THROUGH, UM, WA UH, TALKING TO SOME OF THE RETAILERS DOWNTOWN.THEY APPRECIATED THE DRIVE-THROUGH BECAUSE THEY SAID WITH FOLKS DRIVING THROUGH AND NOT COMING TO THE PARADE, A LOT OF THEIR CUSTOMERS.
AND WE DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT THAT, BUT THEIR CUSTOMERS WERE ABLE TO FIND PARKING AND, UH, AND LEAVE, UH, COMING IN AND OUT OF DOWNTOWN MERCEDES.
SO THAT WAS INTERESTING, BUT I STILL LOOK FORWARD TO THE SUPPORT THAT MERCY COUNTY ALWAYS GIVES FOR OUR VETERANS.
UH, IT'S BIGGER THAN ANY OTHER PARADE.
I THINK THAT WE HAVE IN THE COUNTY THE WAY FOLKS SHOW UP.
I KNOW LOS BANOS DOES ONE ON THEIR SIDE, THE WEEKEND BEFORE VETERANS DAY AND MERCY COUNTY DOES IT.
AND THE CITY OF ATWATER DID THEIRS AS WELL AT VETERANS PARK WAS VERY WELL ATTENDED.
AND, UH, SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.
NO, AND I TOO DID, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THE MCG RETREAT.
THERE WAS A LOT OF REALLY GOOD DISCUSSIONS, UM, SOME FRANK DISCUSSIONS FOR SURE, BUT I, EVERYTHING WENT REALLY WELL.
AND I THINK EVERYBODY IS MORE EDUCATED BECAUSE OF THOSE, UM, CONVERSATIONS.
SO WITH THAT, UM, SO WE'LL SAY AT THIS TIME WE WILL TAKE A BREAK.
THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING WILL BE CONTINUED AT 6:30 PM TO CONDUCT PUBLIC HEARING, TO RECEIVE A PRESENTATION AND PUBLIC INPUT ON REDISTRICTING.
MORE SPECIFICALLY REGARDING DRAFT MAPS.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ZOOM CREDENTIALS FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING ARE DIFFERENT THAN THE CREDENTIALS USED FOR THIS MORNING SESSION.
PLEASE REFER TO TODAY'S AGENDA FOR DETAILS ON HOW TO JOIN THE PUBLIC HEARING REMOTELY.
WE'LL SEE EVERYBODY BACK HERE AT SIX 30 GOOD EVENING.
AT THIS TIME, WE WILL BEGIN THE THIRD PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING REDISTRICTING.
I'D LIKE TO TURN THE MIC OVER TO ASSISTANT COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER MARCY BERRERA TO PROVIDE THE OPENING REMARKS.
GOOD EVENING BOARD CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
WELCOME THIS PUBLIC HEARING IS THE THIRD OF FOUR HEARINGS WHERE MERCER COUNTY RESIDENTS CAN PROVIDE INPUT AND PUBLIC TESTIMONY ON THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS OF 2021, EVERY 10 YEARS, MERCER COUNTY MUST REDISTRICT TO DETERMINE HOW CURRENT BOUNDARIES OF THEIR VOTING DISTRICTS MIGHT BE REDRAWN BASED UPON NEW DATA OF THE US CENSUS BUREAU AND INPUT FROM ROSETTE COUNTY RESIDENTS.
ALL DISTRICT LINES MUST BE REVIEWED TO MEET STRICT REQUIREMENTS FOR POPULATION EQUALITY AND VOTING RIGHTS PROTECTIONS TO ENSURE THE RESOURCES AND EXPERTISE NECESSARY FOR PREPARATION OF THE LEGALLY ADEQUATE REDISTRICTING PLAN.
THE COUNTY HAS RETAINED LEGAL COUNSEL, A DEMOGRAPHIC CONSULTANT, AND A COMMUNICATIONS FIRM TO ASSIST WITH NAVIGATION OF THE COMPLEX LEGAL AND DEMOGRAPHIC ISSUES, AS WELL AS EXTENSIVE OUTREACH REQUIREMENTS WITH US TODAY ARE CHRIS CORNELL FROM NIELSEN, MERCK SUMMER AND JEFF TILTON FROM NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS CORPORATION.
DURING TODAY'S PUBLIC HEARING, MR. TILTON WILL PROVIDE A PRESENTATION OUTLINING THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS, AND HE'LL PROVIDE DETAILS ON SEVERAL OF THE DRAFT MAPS ALREADY SUBMITTED, FOLLOWED BY PUBLIC TESTIMONY AND GUIDANCE FROM THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS.
FOR THOSE JOINING BY ZOOM, THE PRESENTATION LINK CAN BE FOUND ON THE COUNTY'S DRAW MERSEYSIDE COUNTY.ORG SITE ON THE SCHEDULE PAGE UNDER TODAY'S DATE.
I WILL NOW TURN IT OVER TO MR. TILTON FOR THE PRESENTATION.
UH, GOOD EVENING MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK LONG.
I'M GONNA LET JEFF JEFF TAKE OVER, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, UM, WE'RE STARTING THIS PROCESS.
WE'VE BEEN DOING IT A LONG TIME.
WE'RE FINALLY THOUGH NOW GETTING TO MAPS.
UM, AND IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT, UH, MOST OF YOU ATTENDED THE HEARING THAT WE HEAR THAT THE PUBLIC WORKSHOP, I SHOULD SAY THAT WE HAD IN OCTOBER AND WE WALKED THROUGH AT THAT HEARING, IF YOU RECALL SOME OF THE, THE, THE CHALLENGES THAT THIS PROCESS PRESENTS BECAUSE OF THE, WHERE THE DEMOGRAPHIC GROWTH HAS BEEN IN THE COUNTY OVER THE LAST 10 YEARS AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT AND THE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE TO PICK UP POPULATION AND THOSE THAT DON'T.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF VERY DIFFERENT MAPS TONIGHT.
THESE, THIS IS NOT GOING TO BE A MATTER OF JUST SORT OF MINOR CHANGES.
UM, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS PRESENT YOU WITH ALTERNATIVES AND DIFFERENT WAYS TO GO ABOUT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, SQUARING THE CIRCLE, IF YOU WILL, UM, TO TRY AND GET TO A WORKABLE MAP THAT, THAT REPRESENTS THE PEOPLE OF MERSEYSIDE COUNTY.
AND SO, UH, WE'RE, UH, HOPE THAT, UH, YOU, UM, HAVE QUESTIONS AND, AND, YOU KNOW, PROVIDE FEEDBACK AND, AND WITHOUT, I MEAN, LET JEFF GET INTO SORT OF THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF, OF THESE VARIOUS MAPS, BUT I JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT SORT OF AS BY WAY OF BACKGROUND.
HEY, CHRIS, IF YOU COULD, COULD YOU GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE YOURSELF? OH YEAH.
UH, CHRIS CANAL, I'M A PARTNER AT THE LAW FIRM OF NIELSEN MERCH SUMMER.
UM, WE SPECIALIZE IN REDISTRICTING AND VOTING RIGHTS LAW, AND WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH MERSEYSIDE COUNTY FOR, I THINK, 30 YEARS ON REDISTRICTING MATTERS.
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THANK YOU.I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW WHO YOU ARE, BUT DID HE BEAT THIS THERE'S WAY TO DO THIS? GOOD TO BE BACK AGAIN HERE IN BEAUTIFUL MARIE SAID.
UM, SO WE ARE, UH, IS THERE A WAY TO, THERE WE GO, I GUESS IT'S A LITTLE SLOW TO THE TOUCH.
I'LL JUST SAY WE ARE THIRD, UH, HEARING WHERE WE'RE, IT'S ALMOST BIRTHDAY.
UH, WE ARE GOING TO SEE SOME DRAFT MAPS TONIGHT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE PROCESS, UH, IS COMPRESSED DUE TO, UH, THE PANDEMIC, WHICH WAS, YOU KNOW, HAD THE DELAY IN THE CENSUS DATA, ET CETERA.
UH, WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS BEFORE, UH, THE CENSUS DATE OR RELEASE ON AUGUST 12TH, CALIFORNIA.
UM, AND, BUT SENIOR SINCE THEN CALIFORNIA THEN TOOK THAT INFORMATION AND, UH, ADJUSTED IT BASED ON THE PRISONER POPULATION.
UM, THAT TOOK ABOUT SIX WEEKS TO DO OUR FIRM NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS CORPORATION FOUND, UH, UH, SEVERAL ABNORMALITIES WITH THAT DATA THAT WAS RELEASED.
ACTUALLY, IT WAS RELEASED EARLY MORNING HOURS OF SEPTEMBER 21ST.
UH, WE SENT THE STATEWIDE DATABASE, THE CORRECTIONS, AND THEY RE RELEASED A NEW SET OF DATA ON SEPTEMBER 27TH.
SO FROM SEPTEMBER 27TH, UNTIL LIKE THIS TIME OF THE YEAR, UH, YOU COULD SEE HOW COMPRESSED IT WAS FOR GETTING FOLKS ENGAGED WITH RESPECT TO DRAFTING MAPS, BUT WE DID GET SOME MAPS.
UH, WE HAD, UH, SOME WORKSHOPS AS WELL, JULY 13TH AND OCTOBER 19TH.
AND I THINK CHRIS GRINNELL FOR FILLING IN, FOR ME ON, ON OCTOBER 19TH TO A FAMILY, UH, CRISIS.
UM, AND I THINK THE EFFECT, I THINK THE COUNTY STAFF FOR HELPING ME ON THAT AS WELL, AND THE, THE LENDING OF, UH, SUPPORT DURING THAT DIFFICULT TIME.
SO HERE WE ARE, UH, WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THE DRAFT MAPS THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US.
AND, UH, THE INTENT OF TONIGHT IS TO PAIR DOWN PERHAPS A COUPLE OF MAPS AS WE GO INTO DECEMBER 7TH.
UM, BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR FOLKS TO SUBMIT MAPS, UH, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT DECEMBER.
WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE JUST A TON OF MAPS.
UH, I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP, UH, EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN, IN THIS PROCESS IN THAT RESPECT.
SO THEY WILL HAVE, UM, A DUE DATE OF NOVEMBER 23RD TO SUBMIT MAPS FOR CONSIDERATION OF THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING.
I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING AS WELL.
UM, THERE WAS A DUE DATE FOR, UH, THE NOVEMBER 16TH MEETING.
UH, EVERY MAP YOU SEE TODAY, UH, WAS SUBMITTED AND, UH, IS UNDER CONSIDERATION FOR, FOR YOU TONIGHT.
UH, THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A SNAFU ON MY PART.
CLEARLY MY HEAD WAS NOT IN THE, IN THE GAME DUE TO THE FAMILY ISSUES WE HAD, BUT THE STAFF HERE WAS GREAT AND SAID, OH NO, IT'S HERE.
WE GOT IT PROCESSED WELL BEFORE THE DEADLINE.
UH, SO, AND, UH, EVERYTHING'S GOOD TO GO.
SO IF YOU HEAR ANYTHING OUT IN THE STREET, UH, EVERYTHING'S GOOD TO GO.
AGAIN, UH, AS WE LOOK AT THE REGISTRAR OF VOTERS, UM, THE REDISTRICTING IMPACT IN THE 2020 ELECTION, UH, YES, WE'RE LOOKING FOR FINAL ADOPTION ON THE SEVENTH, AND THEN THE CANDIDATE PETITION AND LEW PERIOD STARTS, UH, FOR ALL OF US WHO HAVE RUN FOR OFFICE BEFORE WE KNOW HOW FUN THAT TIME OF THE YEAR IS, OR AT LEAST THAT TIME OF THE PROCESS AND DURING ELECTIONS OR RE-ELECTIONS, AND THEN THE CANDIDATE FILING PERIOD IS THERE AS WE LOOK FOR THE JUNE, UH, ELECTIONS, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
SO AGAIN, WE MUST FOLLOW, UH, THE FEDERAL LAWS.
WE WANT TO HAVE ALL THE DISTRICTS IN EQUAL POPULATION, IF POSSIBLE.
WE'D LOVE TO HAVE A DEVIATION OF LESS THAN DOUBLE DIGITS.
AS WE'RE LOOKING AT IT, WE WANT TO FOLLOW THE FEDERAL VOTING RIGHTS ACT, AND WE WANT TO HAVE NO RACIAL GERRYMANDERING.
AND THEN AS IT LOOKED AS, AS IT RELATES TO THE FAIR MAPS ACT, UH, WITH RESPECT TO COUNTIES AND THIS PARTICULAR ORDER, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR DISTRICTS ARE GEOGRAPHICALLY CONTIGUOUS THAT TO THE EXTENT PRACTICAL, WE DO NOT WANT TO DIVIDE NEIGHBORHOODS OR, UH, COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, UH, THE SAME APPLIES WITH CITIES OR CENSUS DESIGNATED PLACES, ALSO KNOWN AS CDPS.
UH, WE WANT TO HAVE EASILY IDENTIFIABLE BOUNDARIES AND WE WANT OUR DISTRICTS TO BE COMPACT.
AND, UH, WE SHALL NOT FAVOR OR DISCRIMINATE AGAINST A POLITICAL PARTY.
WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT JUST TO MEET THE CRITERIA AND THE FEDERAL LAWS.
AND, UH, WELL ACTUALLY IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT.
UH, BUT WITH THE FAIR MAPS ACT DOES CREATE SOME ADDITIONAL WORKFORCE AND CONCENTRATION.
SO, UM, WE LEAVE THAT COLUMN THERE ON THE RIGHT, JUST TO SHOW YOU IF WE'RE ABLE TO ADJUST, UH, AND MEET THE FEDERAL LAWS AND THE FAIR MAPS ACT, THEN WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO CONSIDER THAT COLUMN ON THE RIGHT.
SO THIS IS WHAT THE 2020 CENSUS, I BELIEVE YOU'VE SEEN THIS BEFORE.
UH, IF YOU WERE AT THE WORKSHOP ON OCTOBER 19TH, WE HAVE A DEVIATION
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OF 20.32, AND WE NEED TO SHORE THAT UP AND GET THAT UNDER 10%.AND THAT'S WHAT OUR WORK IS CUT OUT FOR US.
SO, UH, IN THE PROCESS OF THE PREVIOUS PUBLIC HEARINGS AND THE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, WE WERE TRYING TO, UH, GET INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AS PART OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, UM, UH, THROUGH PUBLIC TESTIMONY THROUGH THE REDISTRICTING WEBSITE, YOU'LL SEE, UH, THERE IS A FORM THAT FOLKS COULD FILL OUT TO PROVIDE INFORMATION FOR US AS TO DEFINING, UH, THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD OR COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IN THE COUNTY.
UH, ROSETTE, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND WE WERE ABLE TO COME UP WITH THIS PARTICULAR LIST OF INFORMATION AS IT RELATES TO NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, UH, THEY ARE, UH, EDITED FOR CLARITY AND BREVITY, UH, BUT THIS WILL HELP PERHAPS INFORM THE BOARD AS IT LOOKS AT DRAFT MAPS AS WELL.
AGAIN, IF WE GO BACK TO THE CRITERIA FOR, UH, CALIFORNIA COUNTIES, THIS WOULD BE NUMBER TWO TO THE EXTENT, PRACTICAL, NOT TO DIVIDE NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 15 MAPS.
12 CAME FROM THE PUBLIC THREE WERE PRODUCED BY NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS CORPORATION AND OF THE 15, 10 WERE COMPLIANT.
SO WE HAD FIVE THAT WERE OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND JUST OFF THE TOP.
THOSE FIVE WERE NOT IN POPULATION BALANCE.
SO WE ESSENTIALLY ELIMINATE THEM.
THEY WEREN'T EVEN CLOSE, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION.
SO THOSE ARE YOUR FIVE NON-COMPLIANT MAPS.
SO THE PUBLIC MAPS, I'M GOING TO GO, UH, LEFT TO RIGHT.
AND TOP TO BOTTOM, UH, ON THE EMC MAP.
AND I WANT TO, UH, ALSO SAY BEFORE WE GO THROUGH THIS, UM, WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE EMC MAP AND THE MAP FROM THE MAPS FROM NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS CORPORATION, THE MAPS THAT HAVE THE LETTER D IN FRONT OF THEM, THEY WERE, UH, DRAFTED USING, UH, THE TOOL CALLED DISTRICT, OUR DISTRICT, OURS, UH, A TOOL FROM TUFTS UNIVERSITY, UH, OPERATED BY STUDENTS AND STAFF AT TUFTS UNIVERSITY.
UM, THE THERE'S JUST A SMALL NUANCE WITH IT, BASICALLY THE AUTHOR OF THE MAP, UM, WHATEVER COLOR THEY USE FIRST IS THE FIRST DISTRICT.
SO YOU MIGHT SEE SOME DISTRICTS THAT ARE NOT IN ALIGNMENT, WHAT THE CURRENT DISTRICTS NUMBERS ARE THAT COULD BE ADJUSTED, UH, LATER ON.
BUT SO WHEN I SAY A PARTICULAR DISTRICT HAS A HISPANIC CITIZEN BORN AGE POPULATION OF X AMOUNT, IT'S BASED ON THAT PARTICULAR ITERATION OF THE MAP, IT'S NOT, IT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE THE DISTRICT THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY, UH, ELECTED FOR.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU? OKAY.
SO LOOKING AT THE EMC MAP, UH, IT HAS A VARIATION, UH, EXCUSE ME, A DEVIATION OF 0.2, 1% FAIRLY TIGHT.
UM, IT HAS TO, UH, UH, MINORITY, MAJORITY CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION DISTRICTS, HISPANIC DISTRICT ONE AT 59% AND DISTRICT FOUR, EXCUSE ME, DISTRICT FIVE AT 56%.
SO THERE ARE TWO, UH, THE NEXT ONE WILL BE, UH, INDIAN AND 9, 7, 6, UM, UP UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER, UH, THAT HAS A DEVIATION OF 0.25.
IT ALSO HAS TWO, A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS.
IN THIS CASE, IT WOULD BE DISTRICT THREE, UH, WITH 54% AND DISTRICT WITH 56%.
BUT IT ALSO HAS IN DISTRICT ONE, A 46% CITIZEN BORN AGE, POPULATION, HISPANIC GOING DOWN TO LOWER LEFT, UH, ROUTE 2, 2, 2.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT REMEMBER THAT, THAT SERIES, UM, IT, UH, HAS A DEVIATION OF 0.16, UM, AND DISTRICT THREE, THE HISPANIC CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION IS 54% AND DISTRICT FIVE 56%.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT MAJORITY MINORITY IN THOSE TWO DISTRICTS.
ADDITIONALLY DISTRICT ONE HAS 50, EXCUSE ME, 47%, UM, HISPANIC CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION, UM, AND 5, 1 6 LOWER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
UH, IT HAS A DEVIATION OF 0.1, 2%.
UM, IT'S, UH, HISPANIC CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION.
MAJORITY MINORITY IS IN DISTRICTS THREE AND FIVE AT 54% AND 56% RESPECTIVELY IN IT ALSO HAS, EXCUSE ME, IT HAS A 47% CITIZEN BORN AGE POPULATION, HISPANIC AND DISTRICT ONE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
UH, WITH 1 5, 1 IT'S DEVIATION IS, UH, 8.29.
UH, IT HAS TO, UH, MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS, A DISTRICT ONE, UH, HISPANIC CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION DISTRICT ONE 59% AND DISTRICT FIVE 56%, UH, AT THREE TO FOUR ON THE BOTTOM THERE, UH, IT HAS A DEVIATION OF 7.67.
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UH, IT HAS TWO, UH, MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS IN DISTRICT ONE 59%.EXCUSE ME, HISPANICS IS SUBORDINATE POPULATION, 59% DISTRICT ONE AND 56% DISTRICT FIVE.
WE'RE LOOKING AT 9 3 9 UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
UH, THE VERY, EXCUSE ME, THE DEVIATION IS 7.95%.
UH, THE SYSTEM BORN H UH, POPULATION HISPANIC MAJORITY MINORITY IN DISTRICT ONE IS 59%.
AND IN DISTRICT FIVE 56%, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE.
NOW WE HAVE THE NDC MAPS MAP, 1 0 1, UH, UPPER LEFT-HAND CORNER.
IT HAS A DEVIATION OF 6.6899999999999995%.
IT ALSO HAS TO A MAJORITY MINORITY DISTRICTS AND DISTRICT ONE AT 58% AND AT 56% AND, UH, UH, DISTRICT FIVE.
AND THAT, AGAIN, THAT A SPANISH ASSISTANT VOTING AGE POPULATION, UH, IN THE BOTTOM THERE IN DC 1 0 2, IT HAS A DEVIATION OF 7.08.
UH, ALSO WITH TWO, A CITIZEN BORN AGE, UH, HISPANIC MAJORITY MINORITY IN DISTRICT ONE AT 57% AND DISTRICT FIVE AT 55%.
AND FINALLY NDC 1 0 3 UPPER RIGHT-HAND CORNER.
UH, IT HAS A DEVIATION OF 5% AND, UH, A MAJORITY MINORITY HISPANIC CITIZEN VOTING AGE POPULATION DISTRICT ONE 58% AND DISTRICT FIVE AT 56%.
SO AGAIN, THE ACTION, THE ACTION OR DISCUSSION TONIGHT, UH, AFTER YOUR PUBLIC HEARING IS, UH, WHICH MAPS DO YOU PREFER AND ARE THERE ANY MODIFICATIONS, UH, THAT YOU'D LIKE TO DIRECT, UH, MYSELF AND OUR STAFF, UH, AS WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR DECEMBER MEETING, UH, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING TO NARROW MAPS IF POSSIBLE, UH, AS WE HEAD INTO, UH, DECEMBER.
THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR DISCUSSIONS FROM THE BOARD BEFORE WE OPENED THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD? SURE.
A CHAIR RECOGNIZE THE SUPERVISOR.
WHEN W GO BACK TO WHEN YOU HAD THE, IT WAS THE FORMAT ON THE PAGE, THIS, IT WOULD'VE BEEN THE SECOND OR THREE MAPS WITH THE 70 OR THE 51 24 AND 39.
AND I HAVEN'T ZOOMED IN ON HIM, BUT MAN, I'M SURE IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE 39 AND 24 ARE THE SAME MAP.
SO THE BEAUTY, IF YOU WILL, ABOUT DISTRICT ARE, IS THERE, THEY ARE CREATED ANONYMOUSLY.
SO IF SOMEONE WAS HERE TO ADDRESS, UH, THAT, AND IT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE, IT'S HIGHLY POSSIBLE THAT THERE'S JUST A MINOR, UH, DIFFERENCE.
UH, IT'S ALSO POSSIBLE THAT, UM, SOMEBODY, THE WAY DISTRICT ARE WORKS IS THAT SOMEBODY, UH, LIKED THAT PARTICULAR MAP AND THEN, UM, SAVED IT AND IT CREATES A NEW NUMBER.
I JUST, YEAH, I WAS LOOKING FOR ANY NUANCES AS WELL, AND I, I'M NOT SEEING THEM AT WELL.
DO YOU SEE? YEAH, THERE'S A BINDER.
WE DISTRICTS TWO, THREE, AND FIVE HAD THE EXACT SAME POPULATION.
SO THEY'RE ALMOST CERTAINLY IDENTICAL.
THE ONLY DIFFERENCES APPEAR TO BE BETWEEN ONE AND FOUR.
AND THERE'S SLIGHT BY, BY PARENTS.
WHERE IS IT THIS QUARTER? OH, THERE IT IS RIGHT THERE.
IT'S LIKE LITERALLY OUT IN THIS, UH, IT'S JUST A S SOUTHEAST OF GUSTINE, UH, ON 3 24 VERSUS 9 39.
YOU SEE A LITTLE FINGER POINTING UP.
I, I SAW JIM POINTED OUT TO ME.
I JUST WAS TRYING TO LOOK AND SEE IT.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS I'LL LOOK AT MR. PEDROSO SHAKING HIS HEAD.
NO, WITH THAT, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING.
WE WILL NOW ACCEPT PUBLIC COMMENT, LIVE IN PERSON AND REMOTELY VIA ZOOM.
PLEASE NOTE THAT THIS MORNING WE TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT, ALL NON-AGENDA AND AGENDA ITEMS. AND THE PURPOSE OF THIS INPUT PERIOD IS TO ADDRESS THE REDISTRICTING PROCESS.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, DRAFT MAPS.
TESTIMONY IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER PERSON.
IF YOU ARE HERE IN PERSON, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND AND YOU WILL BE DIRECTED TO THE PODIUM.
IF YOU'RE JOINING US REMOTELY VIA ZOOM, PLEASE USE THE ZOOM FEATURE TO RAISE YOUR HAND FOR INDIVIDUALS CALLING IN THROUGH ZOOM.
YOU CAN RAISE YOUR HAND BY PRESSING STAR NINE.
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WHEN YOU ARE CALLED UPON EITHER BY NAME OR THE LAST FOUR DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, YOU WILL BE DIRECTED TO UNMUTE YOUR MIC OVER THE PHONE.THIS CAN BE DONE BY PRESSING STAR SIX, AND WE WILL NOW HAVE OUR INTERPRETERS COME UP AND RE UM, REPEAT THAT INSTRUCTION IN SPANISH AND HMONG AND PERSONA THE ZOOM BUT OCCASIONALLY OR THAT TWO TELEFONO.
THEY RUN A, THE HEAT WHEN SHE HEARD THAT SHE NOT PAY YOUR THAT PERSON HI.
SHOWING THEIR LUCIA TELL THE HIGH LOU, YOU COME HOUSING ROOM.
LU HIGH NEAR TO LAY START, GO UP THERE.
CARLOS KEYBOARD TODDLER WHO GOT KAMALI, AND MILKA NOT SURE YOUR CAR, SHE SOTO CORNETTO TO LAY START SIX.
SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND LOOK AROUND THE ROOM.
THIS, ANYBODY RAISE YOUR HAND, COME ON UP.
THERE IS A TIMER ON THE PODIUM, SO YOU CAN SEE YOUR TIME RIGHT THERE.
MY NAME IS PATRICIA RAMOS ANDERSON AND ELECTED OFFICIAL, BUT I'M HERE IN THE CAPACITY OF LEAGUE OF UNITED LATIN AMERICAN CITIZENS OF HERE IN COUNCIL DISTRICT 30, 72 MORE IMPORTANTLY, ALSO, I DID WORK FOR THE, YOUR CENSUS TWO TOURS, ONE HAVING TO DO WITH MERCEDE COUNTY AS A WHOLE PARTNERSHIP SPECIALIST AND ALSO DEMOGRAPHICS FOR, UM, SO THAT SANTA CLARA COUNTY AND MY BACKGROUND IS WORKING WITH COMMUNITIES AND IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND IN THE CITY MANAGER'S LEVEL AT MAYBE 20 YEARS WITH THE CITY SOUNDS A AS WELL.
I'M HERE TO RE UM, SPEAK ABOUT THE, THE, OUR PROPOSAL THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
THE ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE THE NUMBERS HAS THE THREE LETTERS.
AND, AND, AND BASICALLY WHAT WE NOTICED REAL QUICKLY WAS THAT BOTH THE NEW, UM, UM, THE NDC AND THE COMMUNITY CAME WITH VERY SIMILAR, SIMILAR, UM, MAPS.
AND WHAT'S REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT THERE WAS ONLY A DEVIATION BETWEEN 2.1 AND THE OTHER ONE MIGHT'VE HAD A VARIANCE OF 6.0, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT EQUALITY PROSPERITY FOR ALL THE RESIDENTS AND ROSETTE COUNTY, BUT FOR MANY GENERATIONS, AT LEAST IN MY DISTRICT, ONE 50 YEARS, IT HASN'T BEEN EQUITY WITHIN THAT DISTRICT.
WE'VE HAD THE SAME FAMILY FOR 32 YEARS, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED WAS THE ESTABLISHMENT CONTINUED TO, AND DID NOT HAVE DISTRICT ELECTIONS FOR MANY DECADES.
IS SOMETHING WRONG? OR SHOULD I STOP OR WHAT? OKAY.
SO WHAT HAPPENED IS THAT NOW WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT WE ACTUALLY SAW.
TWO MAPS ARE VERY SIMILAR FROM BOTH FROM THE NGC AND ALSO FROM THE MERCY EQUITY COMMITTEE.
AND WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE THE DATA, THE DATA DRIVES AND SPEAKS FOR ITSELF.
MANIPULATING DATA IS A DIFFERENT STORY, BUT ONCE WE APPROVE SOME OF THESE MAPS, ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT WE HIRED A CONSULTANT TO GIVE US INFORMATION AND CREATE SOME MAPS AS WELL.
THE COMMUNITY CAME TOGETHER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO DEVELOP A, A MAP FOR MERCER COUNTY IN ALL THE AREAS.
AND IT'S INTERESTING TO SEE THE DIFFERENCES THAT THE MAPS LOOKED ALMOST IDENTICAL, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THAT ONE HAD A VARIANCE OF ONLY 2.1 IN THE OTHER ONE HAD THE 6.0, AND THAT WAS THE COMMUNITY ONE.
THE COMMUNITY WORKED VERY HARD.
AND WITH ALL THE FOLKS REPRESENTED SO DIVERSE FROM ROSETTE UNIVERSITY, FROM, YOU KNOW, JC FROM THE AGRICULTURE, WE HAD A DIVERSITY OF PARTNERS AND COMMUNITY AND RESIDENTS
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PARTICIPATE IN THIS WHOLE PROCESS.IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE DO NOT GET STUCK IN SAME SITUATION AS WHAT OTHER AREAS HAVE DONE INCUMBENTS AND PROTECTING THE POSITIONS.
BECAUSE ONCE THE SUPERVISORS TAKE OVER AND DECIDE WHAT MAPS THE DATA IS TELLING US WHAT IS GOING TO REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITIES OF DIVERSITY EQUALLY.
BUT IN THE OTHER HAND, WE HAVE ALSO THE CHALLENGE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO PROTECT THEIR SEATS.
LIKE ONE EXAMPLE, FRESNO, IT'S ALL ABOUT NOT THE DOING THE JOB, BUT REDISTRICTING AND KEEPING THEIR JOBS IN PLACE.
AND THAT'S NOT WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.
THIS IS ABOUT HAVING REPRESENTATION, HAVING THE COMMUNITY SELECT REPRESENTATIVE FOR THEIR AREAS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO BE ON TOP OF THIS BECAUSE WE WILL REMEMBER THOSE THAT DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE FACTS AND LOOK AT THE MAPS THAT TRULY REPRESENT OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND TO HAVE TWO ENTITIES COME TOGETHER, THE NDC THAT WAS CONTRACTED OUT TO DO AND HELP THEM CREATE THESE MAPS.
AND THEN FOR THE ONLY ONE, THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SUBMITTED FROM A DIVERSE GROUP OF RESIDENTS, SCHOOLS, TEACHERS, NURSES, YOU HAD EVERYTHING GOING ON.
PARTICIPANT IN THIS PROCESS, AND OURS CAME WITH MUCH MORE SMALLER OF 2.1 ACCURACY, AND THAT'S SENDING A MESSAGE THAT WE NEED TO PICK THE ONES THAT ARE GOING TO REALLY TRULY MEET THE BEST GOAL AND DIVERSITY FOR OUR COMMUNITIES.
AND EVEN THE ONE WITH NDC ALMOST WAS COMPARABLE.
YOU SEE THE CONTRACTOR AND THE COMMUNITIES COME ALMOST SHAKING OF HANDS FOR, FOR US.
IT'S GOING TO BE THE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT WE DO NOT GET THIS INCUMBENT PROTECTION PLANS.
IT ACTUALLY WENT ABOUT A MINUTE 40 OVER.
IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE? IF NOT, WE'LL GO TO DAVID.
SO I'M A RESIDENT OF LOS BANJOS FOR THE PAST 20 YEARS PAST PUBLISHER IN THE LAST MINUTES ENTERPRISE AND COVERING THIS AREA, UNDERSTAND, UH, THE DIVERSITY ISSUE, UH, IN LOS BANJOS AND IN ALL OF HER SAID COUNTY.
UM, WHEN I LOOKED AT ALL THE MAPS, UM, MY BEST, THE BEST MAP THAT'S ON THERE IS THE D 7 1 1 5 1.
AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE OF COMMON SENSE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE WANT TO USE THE DATA.
WE WANT TO BE DIVERSE AND COVER AS MUCH OF THE AREA AS POSSIBLE WITH, WITH PEOPLE.
UM, BUT, BUT REALITY IS YOU'RE GOING TO PUT A SUPERVISOR AND, AND HE, OR SHE IS GOING TO COVER A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA.
AND MANY OF THE MAPS ARE SET UP SO THAT YOU HAVE SMALL AREAS FOR SOME PEOPLE AND WAY TOO LARGE OF A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
AND SO FITS THE CONCEPTS OF, OF A PERSON BEING ABLE TO PHYSICALLY GET FROM ONE AREA OF HIS OR HER COUNTY TO THE OTHER AREA AND REPRESENT EVERYONE FAIRLY.
WHAT I WOULD HATE TO SEE HAPPEN IS FOR A SUPERVISOR TO RECEIVE A GEOGRAPHICAL AREA WITH SO MUCH AREA.
AND SO MANY CITIES THAT WHEN IT COMES TIME TO MAKE DECISIONS, UM, THEY CAN ALWAYS JUST STAY WELL, SORRY, I CAN'T, UM, VOTE YOUR WAY, UH, BECAUSE, UM, I OVERSEE OTHER AREAS OF THE COUNTY AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT, UH, FOR ME TO VOTE THEIR WAY AND I CAN'T REALLY VOTE THEIR WAY EITHER.
SO REALLY I CAN'T REALLY SUPPORT, UM, ANYONE BECAUSE I OVERSEE TOO MANY PEOPLE.
SO WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE USE COMMON SENSE.
WE S I UNDERSTAND THE, THE ISSUE WITH, WITH, WITH EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT I THINK THIS, UH, 51 FITS THE, IT MEETS MOST OF THE RULES AND GOALS SLIDE I WAS SHOWED EARLIER.
IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER HANDS RAISED IN THE ZOOM.
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ANYBODY IN THE ROOM, IF NOT, WE WILL NOW CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.I WILL NOW TURN THE MIC OVER TO COUNTY EXECUTIVE OFFICER JIM BROWN, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
UM, AT THIS POINT AS, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE RECEIVED THE PRESENTATION FROM THE CONSULTANTS AT A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE DIFFERENT MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED FROM THE PUBLIC AND FROM, YOU KNOW, IN DC.
UH, AND YOU'VE HAD YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS.
THE GOAL OF TODAY AS WAS MENTIONED EARLIER, IS TO REALLY TRY TO NARROW DOWN THAT DISCUSSION, UH, FOR CONSIDERATION, UH, TO BRING BACK TO YOU AT YOUR FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER, UM, I'D WOULD LIKE TO, AND I KNOW THIS IS ALWAYS A DANGEROUS THING, BUT RECALL TO, TO, TO SUGGEST, OR YOU OPEN IT UP THAT THESE MAPS OR MAPS THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO TAKE IN, IN ITS ENTIRETY, UM, FOR YOUR COMP CONVERSATION TODAY, YOU COULD TAKE ONE OF THE MAPS IF THERE WAS A PARTICULAR INTEREST IN, IN YOUR AREAS.
AND YOU COULD ASK FOR US TO BRING BACK, YOU KNOW, A MAP WITH A SLIGHT ADJUSTMENTS.
SO OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD BE NICE FOR IF YOU'VE BEEN NARROWED DOWN TO MAYBE TWO OR THREE NAT MAPS, IF YOU COULD, AND MAYBE ONE OF THESE MAPS, YOU WANT AN A AND B VERSION OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TO WHERE WE COULD LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, TYPE THING THE GOAL IS TO TRY AND GET DOWN TO HELP YOU GET DOWN TO WHERE YOU CAN COME TO AN, A, YOU KNOW, AN AGREEMENT OF, OF ALL OF YOU TO WHAT MAPS WOULD YOU YOU'D LIKE TO CONSIDER FOR THAT NEXT STEP.
UM, I MIGHT, IF YOU DON'T MIND, UM, AND I'M SORRY TO PUT, YOU KNOW, MAYBE, YOU KNOW, IN SOME OF THE MAPS THAT, THAT ARE OUT THERE, I, I KNOW FROM THE MAPS THAT NDC CO SUBMITTED THAT REGARDING, UH, YOU KNOW, ALL THE, YOU KNOW, COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST WE LOOK AT, BUT ARE THERE SOME OF THE PUBLIC MAPS OUT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH THAT THEY, YOU MOVED THEM FORWARD, WERE THERE ANY CONCERNS FROM YOU RELATED TO COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AS FAR AS SPLITTING COMMUNITIES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT THAT WOULD RAISE CONCERNS TO YOU FROM A LONGER-TERM PERSPECTIVE, OR AT LEAST FROM A, YOU KNOW, UH, YOU KNOW, A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, UM, THE NATIONAL W TH THE, THE BIG POTENTIAL ISSUE WITH SOME OF THE PUBLIC MAPS IS THE DIVISION OF CITIES AND CDPS WHERE, UM, COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IS SUBJECTIVE.
AND SO TO THE EXTENT, THE BOARD FEELS THAT A MAP UNITES COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME DEFERENCE THERE BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE CLEAR BOUNDARIES, BUT CDS AND CDPS DO, UM, ALL OF THE NATIONAL DEMOGRAPHICS MAPS, UH, UNITE ALL OF THE CITIES AND CDPS, I BELIEVE IN THE COUNTY, EXCEPT FOR MERCEDES, WHICH IS JUST TOO LARGE TO, TO NOT DIVIDE.
UM, EACH OF THE OTHER MAPS, I BELIEVE, TO, TO A GREATER OR LESSER DEGREE DIVIDES SOME CITIES AND CDPS, AND SOMETIMES IT'S MINOR.
YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST LOOKING AT THE MAP THAT, THAT MR. LEE WAS TALKING ABOUT, UH, WHAT WAS A 7 1, 1 5.
AND I NOTICED THAT IT SPLITS VOLTA.
UM, IF YOU LIKE THAT MAP, AND YOU THINK THAT'S A GOOD MAP THAT COULD PROBABLY BE FIXED.
SO, YOU KNOW, UM, THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, ALL, YOU KNOW, DISQUALIFIED BY VIRTUE OF THIS, BUT THEY ALL, THEY ALL DO DIVIDE CITIES AND CDPS TO A GREATER EXTENT THAN THE NDC WAS.
UM, AND SO CLEARLY WITHIN THE BOUND, THE, THE TERMS OF THE FAIR MAPS ACT MINIMIZING THOSE DIVISIONS IS, IS CRITERION NFMA FOR THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST.
WHEN YOU SAY CDP, YOU'RE BASICALLY FOR OUR SIMPLE, OR YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITIES SUCH AS, YOU KNOW, A BLEAK OR A SANTA NELLA, AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS THEY'RE, THEY'RE UNINCORPORATED, BUT THE CENSUS BUREAU SORT OF RECOGNIZES THEM AS A DISTINCT COMMUNITY.
AND SO THEY HAVE, THEY PROVIDE BOUNDARIES FOR THEM, UM, THAT WE, YOU SAID THEY'RE CONCRETE AND FIXED AS WELL AS SCHOOL DISTRICTS, AS WELL AS SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
RIGHT? THOSE ARE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
SO FROM A BOARD, YOU KNOW, AT THIS POINT, WE WOULD, UH, YOU KNOW, YOUR TEAM IS AVAILABLE TO ANSWER ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS OR, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS WHETHER YOU WANT TO ENTER INTO A DIALOGUE AT THIS POINT, AS FAR AS TO START, MAYBE POSSIBLY, IF YOU COULD NARROW YOU DOWN THE MAPS FOR POSSIBLE DISCUSSION EITHER TODAY, OR EVEN TO, TO MAYBE TWEAK OR MODIFY TO COME BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING.
THANK YOU, MR. BROWN, ARE THERE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, OR DISCUSSIONS, OR IS THERE A DIRECTION TO STAFF FROM THE BOARD? DO YOU WANT TO PUT US IN REQUEST MODE OR KEEP US IN THIS, OR WE'RE IN DISCUSSION MODE.
I GUESS FOR ME, I WOULD JUST KIND OF WANT TO START OUT BY JUST MAYBE ELIMINATING ONE AND ONE THAT JUST, AND I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT NDC, UH, PUT TOGETHER IN NDC 1 0 2, AND HOWEVER IT MIGHT MEET THE LEGAL REQUIREMENTS.
I JUST THINK THAT THAT'S NOT FAIR TO ANYBODY THAT LIVES IN DISTRICT FOUR, UM, ON THIS MAP.
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UM, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT MY DISTRICT PER SE, BUT IT IT'S ULTIMATELY THAT WOULD, THAT MAP SHOWS REPRESENTING THE AREAS THAT I REPRESENT CURRENTLY.I JUST, THAT I, I BELIEVE THAT THAT DISTRICT IS UNMANAGEABLE.
AND SO WHAT DO I MEAN BY THAT? IF YOU LOOK, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE SIX INCORPORATED CITIES IN, IN MERCER COUNTY, WE HAVE A LOT OF UNINCORPORATED CITIES AND IN SOME CASES, THE UNINCORPORATED CITIES ARE LARGER THAN THE INCORPORATED CITIES.
AND I WOULDN'T WISH THAT UPON ANYBODY FOR ONE, AND NUMBER TWO, IT'S JUST NOT FAIR TO THOSE RESIDENTS FOR A PERSON TO HAVE, TO BE ABLE TO RE REPRESENT GUSTINE STEPHENSON HILL, MAR BILL ECO CRESSEY, AND WINTON SNELLING, PLUS NADELLA GRANT AND EL NIDO, DAS PALS, Y AND PARTS OF DAS PALACE.
UM, I BELIEVE IT SHOPS SOUTHWEST PALACE OUT THAT KEEPS DAS PALS WHOLE, THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES ARE ALL VERY DIFFERENT.
AND, AND, AND I LIKE TO SAY THAT THEY KIND OF ALL HAVE THEIR, THEIR DIFFERENT, UH, YOU KNOW, LITTLE THINGS THAT MOTIVATE THEM A LITTLE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE DIFFERENT TYPES OF CHRISTMAS PARADES, DIFFERENT EVENTS, COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT THEY SHARE AS, AS AN ELECTED OFFICIAL.
I WOULDN'T, THAT WOULD BE JUST YOU, YOU WOULD JUST BE CHASING YOUR TAIL.
AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY A REASON THAT YOU CAN OR CANNOT, UM, YOU KNOW, KICK A MAP OUT.
BUT IF I HAD TO, RIGHT NOW, I WOULD SAY THAT ONE JUST WOULD BE OFF THE TABLE FOR ME IN THE SENSE THAT, THAT, THAT BECOMES AN UNMANAGEABLE DISTRICT AND THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE WITHIN THAT MAKEUP OF THAT DISTRICT IN, IN DC 1 0 2, WOULDN'T GET FAIR REPRESENTATION SIMPLY BECAUSE ONE PERSON CAN'T REPRESENT THAT DISTRICT.
WE'RE GOING TO MAYBE ELIMINATE ONE.
THAT'S ALL I HAVE FOR NOW SHARE.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
UM, WELL, MY, UH, MY COMMENT IS, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THE MAPS HAVE, HAVE, UH, THE COUNTY MAKING ONE DISTRICT, WHICH IS EMC OR ALLOW THE DS, HAVE THE WIDE, A DISTRICT IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH HAS DIFFERENT NUMBERS INTO ROADMAPS, BUT, YOU KNOW, WHOEVER HAS THAT MAP, WHICH PROBABLY SOMETIMES THEY INCLUDE ME, NOT, NOT EVERY TIME, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST A HUGE, HUGE DISTRICT FROM MY HOUSE.
I LIVE IN LIVINGSTON TO GO TO SANTA NELLA, 30, 40 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE TO GO TO THE OTHER WAY IS ANOTHER 30, 40 MINUTES OR MORE JUST TO LAY GROUND UP.
AND THEN THAT'S NOT EVEN THE END OF THE DISTRICT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TO BUY A NEW TRUCK EVERY, EVERY YEAR, A NEW CAR JUST TO, FOR THE MILES TO PUT IN.
AND ESPECIALLY DURING CAMPAIGNS, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT JUST IN FIVE YEARS I GOT 150,000 MILES ON MY TRUCK AND THE VISITING ME INCLUDE, ALWAYS HAD AN ELA.
SO, UM, I, I JUST, JUST LIKE SOME OF THE COMMENTS THAT THE SUPERVISOR, UH, SOLVERA HAS, IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF COMMUNITIES WILL TELL US AND NELLA LEE GRAHAM PINATA AND, UH, MARCEL LIVINGSTON.
AND, UH, IT'S JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, FOR, FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE MY MAP AND OTHERS, I KNOW THE EMC DOESN'T INCLUDE ME IN, IN THAT ONE, BUT STILL THAT DISTRICT, WHICH IS, I THINK THE DISTRICT FOUR WOULD BE VERY, VERY LONG IN THE MIDDLE.
SO, UH, JUST GIVE MY OPINION, BUT ALSO TO, UH, TO TALK ABOUT THE OTHER MAPS, UM, IN, UH, THE 1 51, 1, 3 24 AND 9 39, IT JUST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'VE MADE IT CLEAR TO MY COLLEAGUES THAT IN HOW I FEEL ABOUT DISTRICT THREE AND TWO BEING SO SMALL, I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, ALL SUPERVISORS SHOULD HAVE A PORTION OF THE CITY OF MERCEDES, YOU KNOW, SO THAT WE CAN ALL HAVE A FEELING OF WHAT RURAL REPRESENTATION IS, NOT JUST THE CITY, BUT ALSO REPRESENTING, UH, RURAL COMMUNITIES.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT WE HATE TO BE EQUAL, BUT I KNOW THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO, UH, TO ATTAIN ALL THE, THE, YOU KNOW, UM, DEMOGRAPHICS TO REPRESENT EACH DISTRICT AND FOLLOW ALL THE, THE, THE REGULATIONS, UH, TO COME TO A COMPLIANT, UH, MAP.
SO, UM, I, I, NOW, RIGHT NOW I HAVE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT, UM, MAPS THAT I WOULD CHOOSE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M JUST GETTING MY SENSE I WANTED, YOU KNOW, TO THE PUBLIC, WHAT I THINK.
PEDROZA DO YOU, I JUST HAVE A SMALL LITTLE PICTURE OF YOU THERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IF YOU HAD SOME INPUT, UH, I'M GOING TO, UH, SAVE MY INPUT.
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TAKING NOTES IF THAT'S OKAY.UNDERSTAND SUPERVISOR PEREIRA.
UM, SO A SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT ABOUT THE DISTANCE AND THE TRAVEL AND, UM, AND MAP, UH, A LOT OF THE MAPS HAVE ME GOING AND TAKING IN CENTINELA AND FROM MY HOUSE TO SENT AN ELA, ALTHOUGH HE WOULD HAVE TO TRAVEL 35 MILES FOR HIS DISTRICT IS 60 MILES.
AND, AND I JUST REALLY THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH, RIGHT.
I, FROM, FROM MY HOUSE TO GUSTINE OR TO THE END OF OUR, NOT MY HOUSE, BUT FROM SNELLING, MY, MY NORTHERN EASTERN COMMUNITY TO, UM, GUSTINE IS, UH, 47 MILES, ACTUALLY, IT'S 51 MILES FROM SNELLING TO GUSTINE.
UM, I LIVE FOUR MILES CLOSER, SO IT'S, UH, IT'S 47 MILES, WHICH, AND I DO ALL THE TIME.
I, I DON'T MIND THAT, BUT I THINK TO ADD ANOTHER TWO COMMUNITIES WHEN I ALREADY HAVE THE MOST COMMUNITIES OF ANY DISTRICT, UM, I JUST THINK AS UNFAIR TO, UM, REALLY THE, THE, THE CITIZENS, RIGHT.
I HAVE, UM, EVENTS AND ALL OF THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT I ATTEND.
AND, UH, ANYWAYS, SO, SO MY THOUGHT IS, IS THAT, THAT, THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, MAP, UH, NDC 1 0 3 AND THEN QUITE A FEW OF THE OTHER MAPS, UM, REALLY PUT, WOULD PUT A STRAIN ON ME REPRESENTING MY CONSTITUENTS.
AND THEN I'LL ALSO SAY THERE'S A FEW MAPS THAT, UM, THAT DON'T INCLUDE ME, RIGHT.
THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE ME IN MY DISTRICT.
AND, UH, AND I THINK THAT WOULD DISENFRANCHISE THE VOTERS THAT ELECTED ME.
AND, UH, I DIDN'T WRITE DOWN THE NUMBERS OF THOSE, BUT THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE MY INPUT FOR, FOR GOING FORWARD.
YEAH, I, UM, I WOULD AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT TOO.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF 'EM HERE.
UM, I KNOW WE ARE ORIGINAL, UM, DISTRICTS WHERE WE REPRESENT RIGHT NOW WAS PUT TOGETHER BY THE VOTING RIGHTS ACT.
AND, UM, I KNOW THAT IT WAS, THOSE LINES WERE DRAWN BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR, OH, SUPERVISOR, PEDROZA GO AHEAD AND UNMUTE YOURSELF.
I DON'T WANT TO, UH, INTERRUPT YOU.
UH, NOW WHAT, WHAT, WHAT, OH, I WAS GOING TO SAY WAS I UNDERSTAND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, GEOGRAPHICALLY, IT'S, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO, UM, UH, REPRESENT THOSE AREAS, BUT WHEN WE, WE, WE ARE STILL REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE.
AND SO WE KNOW THAT WHEN WE SIGN UP FOR THIS AND GRANTED I'M IN DISTRICT TWO, WHICH IS THE CITY OF MERCY SAID, UM, IT'S, IT'S EASIER FOR ME THAN IT IS FOR EVERYBODY ELSE.
UH, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT I GET IT, HOWEVER, TO USE THAT AS AN EXCUSE AS TO NOT EXPAND OR TO, UM, LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT AREAS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO GO OUT AND CAMPAIGN FOR, OR POLITICIZE THAT'S THAT, THAT, THAT DEFEATS THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THIS WHOLE DEAL.
WHAT WE'RE DOING IS TRYING TO FIND A, A GOOD POINT ON WHERE WE'RE AT ON, ARE WE REPRESENTING, ARE WE DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO BY THE LAW AND TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WELL, POLITICALLY I HAVE TO GO TO THIS ONE, POLITICALLY, I HAVE TO GO TO THAT ONE PHOTOGRAPH TO GO TO THAT.
WHATEVER YOU DO, WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO.
BUT THE THING IS WE HAVE TO REPRESENT WHO WE REPRESENT AND WHAT WE REPRESENT GEOGRAPHICALLY, WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT.
AND, UH, OTHER THAN THAT, I, I, I I'M, I'M FINE WITH THE NDC MAPS, BUT I WILL DEFER AGAIN TO, TO THE BOARD AND SEE, YOU KNOW, W W WHAT THEY'RE SAYING, THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR, LET ME GO BACK TO WHERE I WAS.
SO I'M TRYING TO LOOK BACK TO WHAT YOU ARE REFERRING TO.
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YEAH.I THINK A SUPERVISOR PEDROZA KIND OF HIT THE NAIL ON THE HEAD.
IT'S ABOUT COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DETERMINE HERE.
AND WE DON'T WANT TO BREAK UP SCHOOL DISTRICTS.
WE'RE TRYING NOT TO BREAK UP COMMUNITIES THAT A LONG THE LINES HAVE BEEN DRAWN TO, TO DIVIDE.
I, UM, ARE WE AS A BOARD, DO WE WANT TO ELIMINATE SOME RIGHT OFF THE TOP? OR WHAT DO YOU, WHAT'S THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD ON THIS SUPERVISED SOLVERA SO JUST A CLARIFICATION QUESTION.
AGAIN, THIS COMES BACK TO, TO THE FOLKS THAT WE'VE HIRED TO HELP US WITH THIS AT THIS POINT, OTHER THAN I'M GUESSING THEY KIND OF YOUR MAPS, I'M GOING TO CALL THEM YOUR MAPS, THE NDC MAPS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED, THOSE, THOSE MAPS, UM, YOU GUYS HAVE KIND OF ALREADY EVALUATED THEM FOR ALL OF THE, KIND OF THAT, THAT WHEN WE HAVE THAT CHECKLIST OF THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEDERAL THAN THE STATE, AND THEN THE OTHER IS RIGHT, THE REST OF THESE, THERE WAS SOME MAPS THAT WERE ELIMINATED THAT WERE PUBLIC MAPS RIGHT OUT OF THE GATE.
WHEN HE SAID THAT THOSE DIDN'T QUALIFY IS, CAN YOU, CAN YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF, THEY WEREN'T WITHIN THE 10% POPULATION DEVIATION.
AND I THINK THAT WAS PROBABLY MAYBE A CASE OF THOSE MAPS WERE SUBMITTED.
WHEN WE ORIGINALLY HAD OLD NUMBERS, IT'S POSSIBLE.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE ALSO WILL SUBMIT PUBLIC MAPS LESS AS A PROPOSAL, AND MORE SORT OF TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT THEY VIEW AS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
AND SO THEY'RE NOT FOCUSED NECESSARILY ON THE EQUALITY AT THAT POINT.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT KNOWING WHO'S WHO SUBMITTED THEM OR WHAT THEY WERE THINKING, I CAN'T SAY FOR SURE, BUT OKAY.
SOMETIMES PEOPLE, SO OF THE, WHAT WE GOT ONE, TWO OUT OF THE 12 MAPS, I THINK IT WAS 12 THAT WERE, THAT, THAT YOU SHOWED US THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, THOSE HAVE MET THE MINIMUM OR THEY'VE MET THE THRESHOLD OF POPULATION, BUT WE HAVEN'T REALLY DOVE INTO THOSE ANY FURTHER TO KIND OF LIKE WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COLUMN ONE, THE FEDERAL COLUMN TO STATE, RIGHT.
OR AM I SAFE IN ASSUMING THAT, I MEAN, I THINK WE CAN MAKE A FEW, A FEW GENERAL COMMENTS ABOUT THOSE TWO ACTUALLY, UM, FROM A VOTING RIGHTS ACT PERSPECTIVE, ALL OF THESE MAPS HAVE TWO MAJORITY LATINO DISTRICTS, UM, GENERALLY, UM, WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT ONE SORT OF IN THE HIGH FIFTIES AND DISTRICT FIVE IN THE MID FIFTIES.
AND THAT'S, IT'S LARGELY JUST DEMOGRAPHICS.
UM, SO FROM A VOTING RIGHTS ACT PERSPECTIVE, THEY'RE LARGELY ALL COMPARABLE.
UM, THERE ARE, THERE ARE A FEW OF THESE ONES THAT HAVE, UM, I DON'T KNOW, WHAT DID THEY KIND OF A GREEN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAY A SNAKE OR A SWAN, OR WHAT HAVE YOU, WHERE THE PERCENTAGES IN DISTRICT? WELL, THREE HERE, BUT ONE DROP A BIT MORE, SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A CONCERN, BUT, BUT FROM A VOTING RIGHTS ACT PERSPECTIVE, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE ALL COMPARABLE.
AND SO IT REALLY BOILS DOWN TO THOSE, THOSE CRITERIA FROM THE FAIR MAPS ACT, ALL OF THE DISTRICTS ARE CONTIGUOUS.
WE DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY DOWN TO WHAT YOU, AS A BOARD, THINK HOW, YOU KNOW, HOW WELL YOU THINK THEY COMBINE COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
UM, AS I SAID, THERE ARE, OTHER THAN THE NDC MAPS, THE PUBLIC ONES DO TEND TO SPLIT CITIES AND CDPS.
BUT IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE PUBLIC MAPS AND YOU SAY, GEE, I REALLY LIKED THAT MAP.
IT'S POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD CLEAN IT UP.
YOU KNOW, SO I WOULDN'T AT THIS POINT NECESSARILY, UM, THROW OUT A MAP JUST, JUST BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC MAP AND MIGHT SPLIT SOME IT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE SOME THAT SPLIT A LOT.
UM, AND SO THEY MAY BE HARD TO CLEAN UP, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THEM, I THINK YOU COULD REASONABLY CONSIDER IF YOU THINK THEY MAKE SENSE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT SEVEN OF THESE MAPS WERE PRESENTED BY THE PUBLIC WITH ONLY THREE, OUR DEMOGRAPHER ON OUR CONSULTANT.
I DON'T WANT TO JUMP INTO SOUP.
SO FIRST OF ALL, EVAN, YES, NO.
SO THAT KIND OF HELPS ME, BUT SO WHATEVER MAPS WE SUBMIT TODAY, OR IF WE KIND OF GET SOME KIND OF LIKE SOME MAPS TO SEND BACK, I GUESS, FOR YOU GUYS TO REDEFINE OR REFINE THAT STILL HAS TO HAPPEN, THEN I WANT TO WALK THROUGH BETWEEN NOW AND THE DECEMBER 7TH MEETING.
WE HAD A DEADLINE THAT WAS TO SUBMIT MAPS, TO MAKE IT IN SO THAT THEY CAN BE PLUGGED INTO THE SYSTEM SO THAT WE COULD, THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO BE A PART OF TONIGHT'S PUBLIC HEARING.
BUT THERE'S NO RULE THAT SAYS THAT IF SOMEBODY COMES UP WITH A MAP TOMORROW AND SUBMITS IT, THAT COULD STILL BE SUBMITTED FOR CONSIDERATION FOR DECEMBER 7TH, RIGHT? ANY MAP THAT IS PUBLISHED ON THE COUNTY'S WEBSITE BY DECEMBER 30TH, NUMBER 30, NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER.
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SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT DATE TO, TO, TO, TO REITERATE TO THE PUBLIC.I KNOW THAT WE'LL HAVE IT OUT ON THE WEBSITE, BUT SO TONIGHT IT'S NOT THE FINAL DEAL.
WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU, YOU KNOW, SO WE CAN BE WORKING ON THIS.
BUT NOVEMBER 30TH IS, IT IS A DEADLINE WITH A SLIGHT QUALIFICATION.
WE'VE, WE'VE SET A DEADLINE OF NOVEMBER 23RD FOR PUBLIC MAPS BECAUSE WE DO NEED SOME TIME TO PROCESS THEM.
AND SO THEY HAVE TO BE ON THE WEBSITE AND DONE BY NOVEMBER 30TH, UNDER STATE LAW.
SO, SO WE'D LIKE THE PUBLIC TO SUBMIT ANY MAPS THAT THEY'RE GONNA SUBMIT BY IN NOVEMBER 23RD.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE WE GET THAT DATE OUT THERE.
I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT NOVEMBER 23RD, TODAY IS NOVEMBER THE 16TH.
SO IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO SUBMIT A MAP, BECAUSE I THINK THAT THAT EVERY TIME WE GO THROUGH ANOTHER ONE OF THESE PUBLIC HEARINGS OR WORKSHOP, I THINK PEOPLE ARE LEARNING A LITTLE BIT MORE WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT, WHEN YOU LOOK AT SOME PLACES AND YOU GET COMMUNITIES THAT ARE SPLIT IN HALF, AND IF THEY ARE MY WORDS, LIKE THE UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITIES, THAT'S WHEN WE DON'T, THAT'S FROWNED UPON.
WE DON'T LIKE TO DO THAT, BUT THERE'S, I THINK THAT FOLKS GET MORE EDUCATED ON THE PROCESS CAN GO BACK AND MAYBE TWEAK THEIR MAPS ON THEIR OWN.
SO NOVEMBER 23RD, IF YOU WANT A MAP THAT COULD BE CONSIDERED BY THIS BOARD NEEDS TO BE SUBMITTED BY NOVEMBER THE 23RD, RIGHT.
TO THE WEBSITE IS AT MIDNIGHT, CLOSE THE BUSINESS BY CLOSE OF BUSINESS, 5:00 PM ON NOVEMBER 23RD.
AND I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE THAT UP ON OUR WEBSITE, JUST SO THAT THERE'S NO CONFUSION ON THAT.
UM, AND THEN, I MEAN, I THINK, I THINK IT'S, IT'S IN OUR INTEREST TO KIND OF NARROW THIS LIST DOWN.
DO, UH, UNLESS YOU'RE GOING TO GO, I DON'T WANT TO JUMP AND WROTE A SUPERVISOR.
A SUGGESTION MIGHT BE, AND I MAY TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK THROUGH THE LAND MAPS, THERE WERE FOUR, THE FOUR OR FIVE ARE NON-COMPLIANT OR, YOU KNOW, NOT.
SO THOSE GO TO THE SIDE AND THEN YOU'VE GOT SEVEN PUBLIC AND THE THREE AND BAKE IS WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
MR. IS MAYBE WE, YOU TAKE, IF YOU DON'T MIND TAKING ONE BY ONE AND JUST, YOU KNOW, FROM THE, DOES IT SPLIT COMMUNITIES AND THEN IS IT A MAP THAT THE BOARD GENERALLY WANTS TO JUST KNOW? WE PROBABLY DON'T LIKE THAT MAP OR, YEAH, WE MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT MAP.
I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK OF HOW TO HELP YOU MAYBE GO THROUGH AND GET SOME FEEDBACK FROM, I JUST MIGHT REVERSE THOSE REVERSE THAT.
AS FAR AS THE BOARD LOOKS AT THE MAP AND SAYS, I HATE THIS MAP, NO REASON FOR YOU TO COMMENT.
AND SO WE'LL LOOK FOR THE, WE'LL LOOK FOR JIM BROWN MAYBE TO GO THROUGH EACH OF THE MAPS.
WELL THEN IF WE MAY, IF WE CAN BACK UP THE SLIDES, WE HAVE THOSE, THAT THOSE RIGHT THERE ARE NONCOMPLIANT.
SO LET'S PUT THOSE ASIDE NEXT FOR STARTING.
DOES THE, DOES THE SLIDESHOW HAVE THEM INDIVIDUALLY OR DID WE GET TO LOOK AT THEM IN THE FOUR? HANG ON.
YEAH, GO TO, WE CAN, WE CAN GET THEM.
I BELIEVE WE JUST NEED TO TAKE A QUICK PAUSE TO GET THOSE LOADED UP BACK THAT ISN'T A POSSIBILITY WHERE YOU DO HAVE THEM AND YOUR PACKET.
I KNOW, BUT IT'S ULTIMATELY FOR THE, FOR THE FOLKS THAT ARE WATCHING AT HOME THAT'S AND YOU WALK THROUGH THE WEBSITE, SO THE PUBLIC CAN SEE HOW YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO VIEW THE INTERACTIVE MAP.
CERTAINLY THAT WAY THE PUBLIC CAN SEE ALSO HOW FROM THE TOOL YOU CAN TURN IT ON.
SO I AM ON A DRAMA OR SAID, COUNTY.ORG.
AND ON THE SCREEN NOW IS THE HOMEPAGE FROM THE HOMEPAGE YOU WOULD SELECT DRY MAP.
YOU WOULD THEN SCROLL TO INTERACTIVE REVIEW MAP, WHICH IS NUMBER FIVE.
AND THIS WILL BRING UP AN INTERACTIVE MAP.
GIVE ME ONE MOMENT AND IF YOU LET ME KNOW EACH OF THE MAPS, WE CAN GO AHEAD AND BRING THOSE UP THEY'LL SHOW IS LAYERS.
WELL, MAYBE IT'S JUST EASIER WITH THAT TO START FROM THE TOP AND GO DOWN, BUT THAT ONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BE NON-COMPLIANT.
WE'LL GO WITH THE ORDER OF THE EMC
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AND SO THERE THAT'S THE VERSION FOR THE SCREEN OF THE EMC MAP.WHAT WOULD I SEE ABOUT THIS ONE IS IT DOES SPLIT UP SANTA NELLA.
IT'S SPLITS UP A LITTLE BIT OF DELL HIGH BILL LICO AND SOUTHWEST PALACE AND PART OF LOS BANOS AS WELL.
AND THEN I SAY, DOES PALACE? YEAH.
AND MCSWAIN AS WELL, I BELIEVE.
AND IT, YEAH, SPLITS UP NEXT SWAIN.
SO THIS DOESN'T KEEP COMMUNITY OF INTEREST.
UM, CHAIR RECOGNIZES, UH, SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
HI, YOU KNOW, IN A WAY I LIKE THIS ONE PERSONALLY, BUT I KNOW THAT THERE'S A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FAIR FOR DISTRICT FOUR BECAUSE IT'S NOT, LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT'S JUST A HUGE DISTRICT AND, AND BE HARD TO, UH, TO MANAGE.
SO, UH, QUITE NOT THAT SUPERVISOR PER AD LIVES IN, IN, IN THAT BLUE ONE DISTRICT, BUT SO THERE'LL BE A DIFFERENT DISTRICT THAT IMAGINED.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? I JUST THINK IT'S WAY TOO MANY COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST.
I MEAN, I NAMED OFF SIX THAT ARE IMPORTANT IN COMMUNITIES IN MERCER COUNTY.
SO I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD ACCEPT THIS ONE.
DO I SENSE A CONSENSUS ON THAT? YES.
CHAIR RECOGNIZED, SUPERVISOR PERERA.
UM, I THINK, UH, UM, AND I, I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT MY COMMENTS WERE CLEAR EARLIER.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT ABOUT POLITICS.
IT'S ABOUT RE REPRESENTING THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT, UH, UM, THE NUMBER OF COMMUNITIES, RIGHT.
EACH COMMUNITY HAS THEIR OWN EVENTS.
AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO REPRESENT THE PEOPLE YOU NEED TO BE AT AT WHAT THEY'RE DOING, SO YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO TALK TO THEM AND FIND OUT WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO THEM.
AND, UH, AND, AND THIS ONE, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, I GUESS IN A WAY, IT, IT MAKES MY DISTRICT SMALLER, I GUESS IT HAS A NUMBER TWO ON IT, BUT, UM, THAT'S WHERE I LIVE.
SO I'M ASSUMING THAT WOULD BECOME DISTRICT FOUR AND, UH, ANYWAYS, IT JUST, YEAH, IT JUST DOESN'T, UH, YEAH.
AND IT DIVIDES UP ALL THE COMMUNITIES.
UM, I THINK THAT, UH, IT WOULD MAKE IT, IT WOULD MAKE IT TOUGH.
IT WAS SEVEN COMMUNITIES THAT IT SPLITS.
UM, CHAIR RECOGNIZES SUPERVISED.
SOLVERA UNDER THE EMC MAP ON, ON THE SCREEN THAT, UM, MR. MARYANN IS USING THE NEXT FIVE.
I'M JUST FOLLOWING THE NUMBERS.
HERE ARE THE ONES THAT DIDN'T MEET THE, THAT WERE KIND OF, I'M GOING TO CALL IT FOR LACK OF BETTER WORDS KICKED OUT BECAUSE OF NOT MEETING THE, THE, UH, PAPA NON-COMPLIANCE.
IT WAS, UM, I'M GOING TO GO WITH THIS 5 0 6, 8 21, 10 15, 6 58 AND 0 8 7.
AND THEN THE NEXT ONE, THAT IS ONE THAT ACTUALLY SHOWS UP AS ONE THAT MEETS THE DEVIATION NUMBER WOULD BE, UH, 9 76.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE PROBABLY THE BEST I CAN HELP YOU BY CALLING OUT THE NUMBERS.
IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT WHICH ONES TO GO IN ORDER, I WROTE THEM DOWN AND I THINK WE'RE GOOD.
I THINK AFTER THAT, THAT GETS RID OF THE FIVE.
DAS PALO'S SPLITS A LITTLE BIT OF LAS BANJOS SPLITS, DELL HIGH MCSWAIN.
THERE'S A SPLITS UP A LOT OF COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST ON THAT ONE.
I'D SAY WE STRIKE THAT ONE OUT AS WELL.
THE NEXT THREE ARE ABOUT THE SAME CLOSE TO THE SAME.
SO DO YOU WANT TO WE'LL STRIKE THOSE THREE OUT.
SO THAT'S 9 7 6 7 4 2 2 2 D 7 6 5 1 6.
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PLEASE.BUT THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME, RIGHT? YEAH.
WE JUST, WE JUST DID THAT ONE.
WE JUST STRUCK THAT ONE OUT TO 7 51.
NO, NO, THAT ONE IT DOES SPLIT UP WINTON A LITTLE BIT.
YEAH, I, YEAH, IT SPLITS VOLTA.
I DON'T, I'M NOT SURE THAT IT DOES SPLIT WINTER WHEAT IN THERE.
THERE'S A LITTLE SORT OF IN THE CENSUS GEOGRAPHY, LITTLE AREA BETWEEN ATWATER AND WINTON.
AND SO IT MAY BE THAT IT FOLLOWS THAT LINE.
AND THAT'S UNINCORPORATED AREA WITHIN THE CITY.
WELL, CITY OF ATWATER, I MEAN, I THINK WE ARGUE OVER ROADS IN THAT AREA.
I W I THINK I WOULD NOTE ON THAT ONE, THIS MAP IS VERY SIMILAR TO NDC.
I THINK 1 0 1, UM, WHICH BASICALLY RESOLVES, I THINK THAT THE, UH, CDP SPLITS, DO WE WANT TO TAKE A, I BORDER, IF WE WANT TO TAKE A FIVE MINUTE BREAK TO GET JOSH BACK ON.
HE IS ON IT IS HIS VIDEO IS OFF, SO, OH, OKAY.
SO ON THE LINE THOUGH, JOSH, YOU'RE STILL ON THE LINE.
AND I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE STILL IN THAT I HAVE TWO COMPUTERS THAT I'M TRYING TO NAVIGATE, AND ONE OF THEM DIED, SO, OKAY.
SO UM, THE CHAIR RECOGNIZES A SUPERVISOR.
SO W W WITH THIS MAP, I, I LIKE THIS MAP AND I AGREE.
I THINK THAT THIS ONE LOOKS A LOT LIKE, UH, UM, IN DC 1 0 1.
SO I WOULD BE WILLING, I'D SAY WE CAN PROBABLY KICK THIS ONE OUT, BUT THEN MAYBE ASK FOR, TO MAKE SOME TWEAKS ON NDC 1 0 1 AT THE BOARD'S PLEASURE.
SO THEN, UM, AND THEN, YEAH, 7 1 1 5 1 7 1 9 3 9 AND 7 1 3, 2, 4 ARE ALL VERY SIMILAR TO ONE-ON-ONE, WHICH IF YOU'RE FOLLOWING ALONG ON HERE ARE THESE THREE ARE GROUPED TOGETHER.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE TO REFER TO NDC 1 0 1 AND STRIKE THOSE AND MAKE THE CORRECTIONS TO NDC 1 0 1 DUMB, UH, MR. CHAIR AND I'M TRYING NOT TO CONFUSE, BUT YES, YOU'RE CORRECT.
THESE FORMATS ALL SEEM TO BE SIMILAR, BUT THEY HAVE SOME UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS IN PARTICULAR AREAS.
SO, UM, I THINK MAYBE IT WOULD BE HELPFUL THAT IF THERE WERE PARTICULAR COMPONENTS OF THESE, THAT THE SUPERVISORS WERE INTERESTED IN, MAYBE COMMENTING ON THAT.
AND THEN THAT WAY, YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, THE TEAM COULD ADHERE THOSE COMMENTS FROM YOU AND HOW TO INCORPORATE THEM INTO, OR MAYBE YOU MAKE A SUGGESTION ON WHICH MAPS TO GO WITH.
UH, I LIKE ONE OR THREE ON, IN DC.
SO WE'RE STARTING TO GET AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE.
SO WE HAVE, WHICH ONE IS UP RIGHT NOW AND D C 1 0 3.
YOU KNOW, I LIKE ONE OR THREE, EXCEPT THE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GIVE VOLTA AND, UH, SEND AN ELA WITH DISTRICT FIVE.
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SUPERVISOR SOLVERA YEAH.
I'D LIKE TO LOOK AT, AT NBC 1 0 1 IN AND I CAN SHARE.
SO THIS, THIS PARTICULAR MOUNT VOLTA IS AN INTERESTING COMMUNITY IN THAT LITERALLY EVERYTHING THAT IS ON THE EAST SIDE OF VOLTA ROAD IS A TOMATO PROCESSING
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PLANT.AND THEN EVERY, ALL YOUR RESIDENTIAL PIECE IS EVERYTHING IS ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF ALTA ROAD.
THE CHANCES OF THE COMMUNITY OF VOLTA GROWING TO THE EAST SIDE, I'M NOT GOING TO SAY IS NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN, BUT LITERALLY A MORNINGSTAR PACKING COMPANY TAKES UP THAT WHOLE PIECE THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S SIX, A ONE OR HALF A DOZEN TO THE OTHER.
I DON'T, I THINK IF, IF YOU MOVE VOLT TO ONE WAY OR THE OTHER THERE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT, IT'S NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK IT'S GOING TO PUT ANY DISTRICT OUT OF DEVIATION BY MOVING THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
UM, WHEN YOU GET TO ON, ON THE DISTRICT FIVE ON, ON, IN DC, 1 0 1, WHICH I NEED TO HIGHLIGHT HERE, IT REALLY, SO IT USES HENRY MILLER AVENUE.
WHEN YOU GET, WHEN YOU ARE EAST OF MERCY SPRINGS ROAD OR HIGHWAY 1 65, IT USES HENRY MILLER AVENUE AS THE CUTOFF POINT THERE.
IT JUST KNOWING, BECAUSE I REPRESENT THAT DISTRICT NOW, I, I REALLY LIKE THE, ON THAT 71 51, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UH, 7 1 1 5.
WHAT I LIKED IS HOW IT KIND OF PICKED UP THAT, THAT PIECE THERE AND REALLY KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP AND FOLLOWED THE RIVER.
AND I, AND I THINK ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THERE IS, IS THAT THAT'S A HEAVY AG INDUSTRY, A LOT OF, A LOT OF AGRICULTURE OUT THERE.
AND, AND I KNOW THE DISTRICT AND I KNOW THE PEOPLE OUT IN THAT DISTRICT, THEY, THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T HENRY MILLER, THEY FARM ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ROAD.
AND, AND SO I THINK IT'S, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, LIKE TO SEE THAT KEPT TOGETHER.
UM, AND AGAIN, KNOWING THE AREA, IT'S A LOT OF AG LAND, FEW COWS OUT THERE, UM, A LOT OF DUCKS, BUT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE A HUGE POPULATION SHIFT.
SO IF, IF WE CAN TWEAK THE ONE-ON-ONE MAP TO KIND OF FOLLOW MORE ALONG LINES OF THE RIVER, AT LEAST UP TO HIGHWAY 1 65, THERE, I THINK THAT IT'S A BETTER, BETTER REPRESENTATION OF A MORE SOLID DISTRICT.
AND THEN, AND THEN AGAIN, LIKE I SAID, ON THE VOLTA PIECE, UM, I, I THINK WHATEVER DISTRICT IT'S IN, IF THE LINE IS, YOU KNOW, ON VOLT THE ROAD IS, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE POPULATION PIECE.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR CHAIR RECOGNIZE THE SUPERVISOR.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, AS I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE MAPS, UM, I, I THINK THE, THE 7 1 1 5 1 VERSION IS, UM, IS PROBABLY BETTER FOR ME THAN THE NDC 1 0 1, AT LEAST OUT IN THE, IN THE OUTLYING AREAS.
UM, I, I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I DUNNO, I GUESS, I GUESS AS A SUPERVISOR, I, I, LIKE, I LIKED MY DISTRICT, RIGHT.
I LIKED THE PEOPLE IN IT AND I ENJOY REPRESENTING THEM.
AND SO, UM, I KNOW I'VE GOT TO PICK UP MORE, UH, PEOPLE BECAUSE MY DISTRICT WAS ONE-ON-ONES THAT, UH, THAT HASN'T GROWN SO MUCH AND, AND I FELL SHORT OF THE AVERAGE.
UM, HOWEVER, I, AND I, AND I, YOU KNOW, I, I REALLY WOULD HATE TO, UM, LOSE THE PEOPLE THAT I REPRESENT.
AND SO, UM, KIND OF ON THE, THE FIVE, ONE MAP WHERE IT COMES DOWN, WHERE MY DISTRICT COMES IN BETWEEN, UH, LIVINGSTON AND ATWATER, UM, YOU KNOW, I, I MEAN, I GUESS, I GUESS IT'S OKAY TO CHANGE THAT, BUT, YOU KNOW, FROM THE NUMBERS, I, I REALLY WOULD RATHER NOT, UM, ON REPRESENT THOSE PEOPLE.
UM, AND THEN I'M GOING TO REITERATE, UM, THE FACT THAT IT'S 60 MILES FROM MY HOUSE, OR FROM SNELLING TO CENTER AND ELLA FROM ONE COMMUNITY AT ONE END TO THE OTHER.
AND I JUST DON'T, I JUST DON'T THINK THAT'S FAIR.
UH, ONE OF MYSELF, BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, UH, FAIR TO THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, THAT ARE REPRESENTED.
I ALREADY HAVE A BUNCH OF COMMUNITIES THAT I REPRESENT AND ADDING TO IT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THEN ADDING THAT MUCH DISTANCE, I THINK WOULD BE, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I KNOW SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA DOESN'T WANT TO TRAVEL THAT FAR EITHER, AND I GET THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, BUT THAT'S MY, MY THOUGHTS.
AND ON THAT PARTICULAR MAP, TOO, IF YOU LOOK AT THE SOUTHERN PART OF THE DISTRICT THREE RIGHT NOW, I'M SORRY, WHICH MAP, WHICH MAP, WHICH IS THE ONE THAT YOU'RE ON NOW, WHICH IS THE, IN THIS 1, 5, 1, UM,
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THIS CONFIGURATION DOES WORK.I DO KNOW THAT IF I GO SOUTH OF BAILEY ROAD NOW IS I GET A LOT OF CALL FROM THAT CONSTITUENCY THE WAY IT IS AND IT'S, AND IT'S BECAUSE IT'S ACTUALLY THE FARMERS THAT ARE FARMING, THAT PARTICULAR AREA ACTUALLY LIVE IN MY DISTRICT, BUT THAT IS THEIR LAND THAT CONTINUES ON THROUGH THAT AREA.
SO THEY FARMED THAT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO DICKERSON FERRY, WHICH IS REPRESENTED IN NDC 1 0 1.
IT SHOWS THAT, BUT I DON'T THINK THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT AREA, BUT I DO KNOW, UM, THAT THERE'S A DAIRY OUT THERE THAT I'VE HELPED OUT NUMEROUS TIMES, AS WELL AS, UM, THE FARMERS THAT LIVE IN MY DISTRICT ACTUALLY FARMED THAT LAND.
CHAIR RECOGNIZE THE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA.
UM, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, UM, I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS LIKED THIS ONE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I DON'T BELIEVE IN, IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WHEN VOLTA AND, AND SENT TO IS FIVE, 10 MILES.
I'M NOT EXACTLY ON THE DISTANCE FROM LOS BANJOS AND DISTRICT FIVE, UM, YOU KNOW, BEING REPRESENTED FOR ME, WHICH I LIVE SO FAR AWAY AND DISTRICT FIVE IS RIGHT THERE.
SO IT JUST MAKES SENSE FOR A DISTRICT FIVE TO REPRESENT THAT AREA.
AND IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN REPRESENTED BY A DISTRICT FIVE WHEN I GOT SO MUCH LAND TO THE EAST.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE OUR PREFERENCES AND OUR FARMERS, UH, WELL, LIKE OUR DISTRICT, BUT NOTHING IS PERFECT.
AND, UH, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE GONNA MAKE SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS ANGRY FROM BEING DROPPED BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, OTHER MEMBERS.
SO I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S FAIR.
SO I WILL NOT, IN MY MIND, I WILL NOT VOTE FOR, UH, TO SEPARATE THAT.
SO I THINK 1 65, UH, EAST IS, I WOULD BE FINE, BUT TWO, ALL THE WAY TO CENTINELA THAT IT'S NOT THAT I DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT MORE CITIZENS, BUT IT'S ALSO A BURDEN ON THEM TO, UH, NOT BE REPRESENTED FOR SOMEBODY THAT'S LOCAL.
SO, LIKE I SAID, I'LL BE IN THE GRANDPAS, NADA, SOUTH MARCEL, LIVINGSTON, AND BUSY WITH STUFF.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, I GOT TO GO ALL THE WAY TO THE OTHER COUNTY AND, YOU KNOW, UH, AS IT IS, YOU KNOW, UH, PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY'RE NOT ON THE GROUND OR BEING LEFT OUT, WEIGH IN ON, UM, ON THE EAST.
SO, UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST A BURDEN ON THEM TO BE NOT BEING REPRESENTED, UH, EQUITY ADEQUATELY AS WELL.
CHAIR RECOGNIZES SUPERVISOR SOLVERA.
UM, I WAS A THAT I THINK FOR ME TRYING TO GET THIS DEAL NARROWED DOWN A LITTLE BIT, I'M NOT INTERESTED IN NDC 1 0 2 AT ALL.
AND I JUST THINK THAT THAT ONE COULD GO OFF.
UM, AND I DON'T THINK GOING TO DO MUCH THERE TO TWEAK THAT THEY WOULD AT LEAST FOR ME.
SO I JUST WANTED TO POINT THAT OUT.
AND THEN, UM, MAYBE WHETHER IT'S EITHER, I THINK ON THE, THE BACK TO THE 71 51 MAP, HOLD ON, I GOT IT.
MAYBE KEEPING THAT MAP IN THERE.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, TAKING INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT MY COLLEAGUE FROM DISTRICT THREE SAID, DROPPING THAT, UH, SOUTHERN LINE TO DICKINSON FERRY.
AND I DON'T KNOW, I KIND OF KNOW THE AREA ROUGHLY, BUT I'M NOT GOING TO SAY KNOW IT WELL ENOUGH TO KNOW WHAT THAT'S GOING TO DO POPULATION WISE, AND THEN JUST LISTEN THE WEST SIDE.
I MEAN, IT'S OBVIOUS WE'RE OVER BY 11.5%.
SO THE WHOLE COUNTY GREW OVER 10 YEARS.
EVERY DISTRICT GREW, IT'S JUST DISTRICT FIVE OUTGREW.
AND I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT CHANGING.
I SEE THAT, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS, BUT FAST FORWARD, 10 YEARS FROM NOW, IT JUST, I SEE LAS FANTAS.
I SEE SANTA, I SEE THESE AREAS GROWING AND IT'S EVERYBODY ELSE IS HE KNOWS DISTRICT ALL TOUCHES THE CITY OF MARCET IN SOME WAY, IN ORDER TO BE ABLE TO GET THE POPULATION YOU NEED TO, TO FOLLOW.
THE FIRST RULE IS TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO BE EVENLY DISTRIBUTED BY POPULATION.
BUT, UM, WHETHER YOU GUYS LIKE IT OR NOT, AT SOME POINT SOMEBODY'S GOING TO ELSE IS GOING TO HAVE TO COME OVER TO THE BEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY AND TRY TO REPRESENT IT.
IT'S IT'S GOING TO TAKE MORE OF US.
I THINK THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK SPECIFICALLY, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT LAS VEGAS AT THE CURRENT RATE THAT THEY'RE GROWING,
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BY THE TIME WE GET 20 YEARS DOWN THE ROAD, AND GOD-WILLING, WE'RE ALL STILL HERE AND HEALTHY TO SEE IT, LAS VEGAS IS GOING TO BE TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE.IT'S GOING TO BE LIKE MERCEDES SAID WHERE IT'S GOING TO TAKE ONE.
SUPERVISOR IS NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO REPRESENT LOS SPANISH STRICTLY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE TOO BIG.
SO IT'S I GET IT IT'S TO ME, I KNOW THAT THAT HISTORICALLY LAS FANTAS, YOU KNOW, THE DISTRICT FIVES, I MEAN, LISTEN, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN MY PREDECESSOR WAS HERE AND HE STARTED IN 1990, HE REPRESENTED ALL THE WAY UP TO MCSWAIN.
AND TH TH THE EAST, THE WEST SIDE OF THE COUNTY CONTINUES TO GROW.
UM, YOU KNOW, BUT LISTEN, I THINK THAT, UH, THE, THE NDC 1 0 3 MAP, IT SHOULD LET'S, LET'S, LET'S HAVE THEM LOOK AT IT.
I'M NOT SAYING ELIMINATE IT, BUT I'M SAYING WE GOT TO GET, AT LEAST I THINK IT'S, UM, WHAT I'M TAKING OUT OF THIS TODAY IS, IS, IS NUMBER ONE.
WHAT I STATED EARLIER, THERE'S STILL TIME FOR PEOPLE TO SUBMIT MAPS.
AND THEY'VE BEEN NOW KIND OF EDUCATED ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AS FAR AS NOT BREAKING UP COMMUNITIES, BUT NARROWING THIS THING DOWN TO GIVE THE DEMOGRAPHERS AND THE LEGAL PEOPLE, A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT AND, AND BRING US BACK BECAUSE DECEMBER 7TH WE'LL BE HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW IT.
UM, SO I'M, I JUST LIKE, AGAIN, THOSE, THOSE, I DO THINK THAT A 1 0 1 AND 71 51 7 1, 1 5, 1 ARE VERY SIMILAR.
THERE'S DIFFERENT PARTS OF IT THAT I THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE KIND OF EXPRESSED MY KIND OF CONCERNS OR THOUGHTS ABOUT THOSE.
UM, I, YOU KNOW, THAT AREA OUT THERE, WHEN YOU START TO GET UP TO THE, THE, THE, UM, MADERA COUNTY LINE, YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE ALL FARMING OUT THERE.
UM, I LIKE THE 71 50 71, 1 5, 1 MAP.
I'D LIKE IT TO BE CONSIDERED IF YOU PULL VOLTA INTO IT, I DON'T THINK IT CHANGES IT MUCH, BUT IT DOES.
IT IS GOING TO, UM, YEAH, IT'S GOING TO MAKE SOME BIGGER DISTRICTS FROM FOLKS.
UH, YOU KNOW, I DRIVE OVER TO THE EAST SIDE OF THE COUNTY FOUR TO FIVE DAYS A WEEK.
IT'S JUST PART OF THE NATURE OF WHERE YOU LIVE.
YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO BE THE DISTRICT TWO SUPERVISOR, YOU REPRESENT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A SMALLER AREA, IT JUST WORKS OUT THAT WAY.
UM, SO THAT PART, I KINDA LIKE TO ALWAYS SAY, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR.
UM, I, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT.
I THINK THAT THERE'S BASICALLY THREE MAPS THAT I THINK AT LEAST WE CAN PUSH FORWARD TO COME BACK WITH.
THAT WOULD BE THE, THE NDC 1 0 1, I THINK IT'S 1 0 1.
YEAH, THE NDC 1 0 1 WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WE'VE THOUGHT THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THE 1 51 WITH SOME CHANGES THAT WE POSSIBLY TALKED ABOUT.
AND THEN THE 1 0 3 MAP, I THINK IT SHOULD JUST BE IN FOR CONSIDERATION AND LISTEN, WE'LL HAVE FOLKS THAT'LL REACH OUT TO US AND TALK TO US AND MAY CHANGE OUR MINDS ONE WAY OR ANOTHER.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS PROCESS IS ABOUT.
SO, UH, SUPERVISOR, AND BY MY NOTE TAKING NOW, THAT WAS THE THREE THAT I HAVE AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH.
EACH OF THEM, WE WERE CROSSING THEM OUT.
SO WAS ACCEPTED IN DC 1 0 1 AND IN DC, 1 0 3, UM, WITH NOTATIONS ON, THOSE WERE THE THREE THAT WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD FOR CONSIDERATION.
JOSH, HOW ARE YOU DOING OUT THERE? YEAH.
UM, I, I GOTTA, I GOTTA TELL YA, I'M, I'M REALLY DISAPPOINTED IN THIS CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING, UH, RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE IT REALLY, I MEAN, I I'M, I'M FINE WITH THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE HEADED WITH THE MAPS.
I STILL THINK NDC 1 0 2 IS OKAY.
UM, UH, BUT YOU KNOW, THE MERSEYSIDE COUNTY IS ALMOST 2000 SQUARE MILES AND UNFORTUNATELY SOME OF US HAVE A LARGER AREA TO COVER, AND WE STILL KEEP TALKING ABOUT THE GEOGRAPHY OF THE COUNTY AND IT'S, WELL, THESE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE, THE PEOPLE, NO, IT'S NOT .
I THINK YOU'RE LOSING FOCUS ON THAT.
WE, WE ARE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET WHAT WE WANT TO GET.
AND, UM, THIS IT'S CHANGING SOMETHING.
IT'S TURNING SOMETHING INTO SOMETHING BIGGER THAN WHAT IT SHOULD BE IN A SENSE THAT, LOOK, WE HAVE THESE RULES THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW.
WE'VE ALL MET WITH OUR, UH, THE ATTORNEYS, THE DEMOGRAPHERS, EVERYBODY WE'VE ALL BEEN AT THE MEETINGS AND LET THEM KNOW.
AND I THINK THAT THAT'S, I THINK IT'S DISINGENUOUS WHEN WE SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, I, I
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THINK IF I TAKE THIS COMMUNITY VERSUS THIS, THEN THE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO GET TO HEAR WHAT, YOU KNOW, CAUSE I HAVE RELATIONSHIPS WELL SOON WHY IN SOUTH AMERICA, BUT I'M GOING TO LOSE SOUTH PART OF SOFTNESS THAT, WHICH I UNDERSTAND I GET IT.BUT I JUST THINK THAT WE'RE RE WE'RE REALLY LOOKING WE'RE WE'RE, WE'RE REALLY NOT BEING FAIR TO THE PROCESS.
UM, I'M FINE WITH A 1 0 1, 1 0 3 7 1 5 1.
SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO BRING UP ON, ON THE ONE TO SHARE, UM, RECOGNIZED SUPERVISOR PRAYER? UH, SURE.
I, UM, I LIKE MAP 1 0 1 IN 7 1, 1 5 1.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK MAYBE, MAYBE ONE OF THE THREE COULD BE CHANGED A BIT TO, TO MAKE IT WORK, BUT 1 0 2 IS, UM, JUST, I DON'T KNOW.
I MEAN, TO OUR NDC, I REALLY, I DON'T SEE HOW ANYBODY COULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTABLE, I GUESS IT DOES SPLIT DAS PALACE.
WELL, I MEAN, IT ALSO GIVES ME 12 COMMUNITIES, RIGHT.
I MEAN I'M IN MY COMMUNITY, SOUTH DOCK PALACE TOO.
ANYWAYS, I, YEAH, I JUST, I COULDN'T, I COULDN'T FATHOM, UH, IN DC 1 0 2, BUT THE OTHER THREE I'M OKAY WITH, THANK YOU, SCOTT WAS MY SUMMARY.
DID YOU AGREE WITH MY SUMMARY? CAUSE YOU HAD SAID IT.
I, I TOLD MYSELF I WASN'T GOING TO COMMENT ANYMORE TONIGHT, BUT I, I HAVE ALREADY SAID 1 0 1, 1 0 3 71, 1 51, 1 0 1 BEING WITH SOME CHANGES IN 1 51 WITH SOME CHANGES.
THOSE ARE STILL THE THREE THAT I THINK, UM, I THINK RIGHT NOW THAT THAT BEST KIND OF BREAKS THINGS UP.
I DON'T THINK 1 0 2 IS A GOOD MAP, BUT IF MY COLLEAGUES, SOME OF THEM WOULD LIKE TO SEE 1 0 2 IT'S ULTIMATELY WE'RE JUST MAKING THE DEMOGRAPHERS, YOU KNOW, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE QUEUED UP AND BROUGHT BACK.
IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT, I MEAN, I COULD TELL YOU RIGHT NOW, I DON'T JUST, I CAN'T SEE MYSELF SUPPORTING ONE OR TWO, EVEN IF IT COMES BACK LATER ON, IT JUST, IT JUST THAT'S.
I, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T WANT TO TRY TO HAVE TO REPRESENT THAT DISTRICT.
AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO PUT THAT ON ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES TO TRY TO HAVE TO REPRESENT THAT DISTRICT.
UM, THAT'S, IT'S JUST, IT'S AN UNMANAGEABLE DISTRICT.
AND I THINK THAT THAT REALLY WHAT IT DOES IS EVERYBODY IN THOSE LITTLE INDIVIDUAL COMMUNITIES SUFFER BECAUSE THEY WOULDN'T, THEY WOULDN'T GET, UM, REPRESENTATION AND MIND YOU, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE STAFF.
LIKE IF YOU WANT TO MEET THE DISTRICT FIVE SUPERVISORS, CHIEF OF STAFF, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THEM.
THEY, SO IT, IT, I'M NOT, WE'RE NOT ASSEMBLY MEMBERS.
WE'RE NOT CONGRESS MEMBERS, STATE, SENATORS.
WE DON'T HAVE STAFF THAT WE GET TO SEND ALL THESE DEALS.
AND YOU KNOW, UM, I'M NOT COMPLAINING.
MY COMMUNITIES ARE CLOSER CURRENTLY THAN, THAN A LOT OF THE DISTRICT FOUR ONES ARE.
BUT IT'S JUST, I MEAN, IT'S CRAZY TO ME, BUT LISTEN, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO CONSIDER IT, HEY, WE'LL CONSIDER IT.
I'M ONLY ONE VOTE ON THIS DEAL.
WHAT I'M SEEING IS I'M NOT SO ON NDC 1 0 2.
I COULD TAKE AN INFORMAL POLL ON THAT.
SO I'LL LOOK AT SUPERVISOR AND DISTRICT ONE.
DO YOU LIKE IT OR NOT? YES OR NO? YES.
W I'M SORRY, WHICH ONE DID YOU SAY IN D C 1 0 2? YES OR NO DISTRICT FOUR.
I DON'T THINK IT'S A, I DON'T LIKE SPLITTING UP COMMUNITIES THAT SPLITS UP DAS PALACE.
SO THAT WOULDN'T FAILS BY A THREE TO TWO INFORMAL POLL.
SO LET'S STICK WITH THE, THE, THE THREE D C 1, 1 5 1 IN DC, 1 0 1 AND THEN DC 1 0 3.
UM, I DO WANT TO JUST CONFIRM AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, THE CONVERSATION AND I'VE HEARD WITH NOTATION WITH NOTATION AND
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I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE PICKED UP APPROPRIATELY, THE INTEREST THAT HAS BEEN EXPRESSED.AND IF WE'VE MISSED SOMETHING, PLEASE, IT'S NOT INTENTIONAL.
UM, AND MOST OF THE NOTATIONS, WHAT I HAVE HEARD HAVE BEEN BETWEEN 1 51 AND 1 0 1, I BELIEVE THEY'RE JUST A LITTLE BIT VARIATIONS BETWEEN THEM AND THE AREAS.
VOLTA HAS JUMPED OUT AS FAR AS PART OF THE CONVERSATION WHERE ONE OF THEM SPLITS IT.
AND ONE OF THEM HAS IT INTO ONE DISTRICT OR THE OTHER.
UM, PLEASE, I DON'T WANT TO MISREPRESENT, BUT I THOUGHT I HEARD THAT IT'S OKAY.
IF IT WAS A POTENTIALLY MOVED INTO DISTRICT FIVE, AS PART OF, YOU KNOW, AS A POTENTIAL LOOK, JARED CAN ACCESS.
AND I THINK THAT WHEN I KNOW THAT THERE'S, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, ROUGHLY 50 TO 60 RESIDENTS OUT IN THE BOLTON AREA.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT THAT IT'S IN WITH IT'S IN ONE DISTRICT OR ANOTHER PERFECTLY FINE WITH IT BEING IN DISTRICT FIVE.
UM, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S GOING TO SWAY.
UM, IT'S NOT GOING TO PUT US OUT OF, OUT OF DEVIATION NUMBERS.
I, YEAH, LET'S JUST, YEAH, MAYBE YOU COULD.
YEAH, I THINK IT COULD GO TO DISTRICT FIVE RAISED REALLY WELL.
WHY DON'T WE, I LOOK AT IT AND IF IT SEEMS LIKE IT WILL PUT US OVER THEN WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE A JUDGMENT ACCORDINGLY.
AND STILL GOING THAT WAY THEN, UH, THERE WAS DISCUSSION RELATED TO, UH, I THINK IT'S A LACK OF A BETTER WORD NORTH OF, UH, HENRY MILLER WITH THE RIVER LINE, AS FAR AS SOME INTEREST IN THAT AND BEING FIVE.
UM, I HEARD THEN MOVING UP, UH, I THOUGHT I HEARD, UH, CONVERSATIONS WHERE IN 1 0 1, IT HAS THE BOUNDARIES OF DISTRICT THREE THAT GO SOUTH A LITTLE WAYS WHERE 1 51 DOES NOT HAVE THAT.
AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE ROADS I'M, I'M APOLOGIZING.
I NEED TO, UM, DICKINSON FERRY.
SO I THINK I HEARD INTEREST IN THAT.
UM, THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 1 0 1 AND 1 51 WAS THE AREA BETWEEN ATWATER AND LIVINGSTON, UM, OF WHETHER IT'S A, IN 1 0 1 IT'S IN DISTRICT ONE IN 1 51 THAT AREAS IN DISTRICT FOUR.
UM, I THINK 1 51 HAS IT AT, UH, SULTANA IF I RECALL CORRECTLY.
UM, SO I THINK THAT WAS AN AREA OF MAYBE SHOWING IT BOTH WAYS FROM, FROM AN OPTION TYPE THING.
AND THEN IT WAS ALSO MENTIONED THE DIFFERENCE 1 51 AND 1 0 1 WAS THE COMMUNITY OF WINTON, THAT LITTLE PIECE IN THERE OF HOW THAT'S AND I'M SORRY.
I THINK THOSE ARE THE, ALL THE, THE AREAS OF NOTATION OR DISCUSSION THAT I HEARD RELATED TO THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE TWO MAPS OF INTEREST.
AND IF WE'VE MISSED SOMETHING OR HAS NOT BEEN REPRESENTED, PLEASE, YOU KNOW, UM, AT THIS POINT SHARE THOSE WERE MY NOTATIONS AS WELL.
THERE ARE SOME OTHER DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THOSE MAPS, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING MENTIONED FROM A BOARD PERSPECTIVE AS FAR AS SOME CONVERSATION.
NO, AND I THINK THE FOLK, THE FOCUS IS COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST AND TRYING TO KEEP THEM ALL WHOLE AND TO THE VOTERS RIGHTS ACT, WHICH IS WHAT WE'RE REALLY TRYING TO KEEP HER CHAIR RECOGNIZED.
UM, ON THE, ON THE MAP, UM, I GUESS, WELL, WHICH ONE I PULLED IT UP ON 1 0 1, UM, WHERE DISTRICT FOUR COMES DOWN IN TUMOR SET ON M STREET.
I, I, I DON'T REMEMBER OFF HAND THAT THE NUMBERS, BUT I THINK, UM, I MEAN, IF, IF, UM, IF I NEED TO, IF DISTRICT FOUR NEEDS TO PICK UP POPULATION, THAT'S FINE.
UM, I THINK THE FARTHER IT GOES INTO MERCER SAID, UM, PROBABLY, UM, WELL, I GUESS IT'S OKAY AS IT IS.
I, I, I JUST THINK THAT URBAN PEOPLE, UM, BUT THAT'S FINE.
I DIDN'T WANT HER SUPERVISOR PEDROZA YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE, UH, CONCERNED ABOUT CARRYING MORE OF MORE COMMUNITIES, BUT THEN COMING INTO MORE URBAN AREA.
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT.
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OKAY.I DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT.
IT WAS JUST A COMMENT ON THAT.
I, I'M JUST, I'M JUST ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION ON THE COMMON, I RECOGNIZE SUPERVISOR PRAYER.
SO THE CLARIFICATION WOULD BE IS THAT I PULLED THE COMMENT.
I RECOGNIZE THE SUPERVISOR ESPINOSA YOU AND NOW JUST LOOKING AT IT.
UM, YEAH, WITH MINOR MODIFICATIONS I'M UM, I WILL NEVER PAWN WITH IT.
UM, UM, YEAH, VAULT I'VE WALTER WANTS TO BE IN DISTRICT FIVE.
AND THEY COULD, THEY COULD SOME FAIRY.
I KNOW THAT THAT, UH, THAT, UH, DISTRICT THREE COULD PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE REPRESENT ALL OF THEM MOSTLY ANYWAY, SO THAT'S FINE WITH ME.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE PLACE THAT WE'LL LIKE IS, IS, IS, UH, YOU KNOW, AS IT IS IN LIVINGSTON GOING ALL THE WAY TO DISTRICT THREE THAT'S, UM, I'M FINE WITH THAT ON THE PINK.
SO AS, AS, AS, AS RIGHT THERE, SO I'M OKAY WITH THAT, I GUESS.
BUT IF I LOSE, IF I WILL LOSE A LITTLE BIT MORE, SO I'VE GOT TO PROBABLY GAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, ANYWHERE.
A LITTLE MORE DRIVING JERICHO SUPERVISOR.
SOLVERA CHRIS, IT'S JUST A PROCESS QUESTION.
SO I JUST, CAUSE I WANNA UNDERSTAND AS WE'RE GOING INTO THIS, WHEN WE GET TO DECEMBER 8TH, WE'RE STILL GOING TO, YOU'RE STILL GOING TO TAKE, UM, SUBMITTALS OF PUBLIC MAPS.
YOU GUYS ARE GOING TO WORK ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO BE THREE MAPS HERE AND BRING THAT BACK TO US.
WHEN WE GET TO THAT, THAT DECEMBER 8TH MEETING AND NOT DECEMBER 8TH, DECEMBER 7TH MEETING, IT'S GOING TO BE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING.
AND WE'RE GOING TO TAKE TESTIMONY FROM THE PUBLIC.
AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU BRING THE MAPS BACK ON DECEMBER THE SEVENTH AND WE'RE ALL, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO HEAR NOW.
WELL, HEY, DON'T FORGET ABOUT ME.
CAUSE THAT AREA THAT'S NOW IN THAT ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THAT I FARM OVER THERE TOO.
SO WE'RE GOING TO GET SOME OF THAT.
AND SO WHAT'S THE PROCESS THEN, THEN ARE YOU GOING TO BE ON SITE, LIKE READINESS TO GO AND KIND OF TWEAK THOSE THINGS AND HAVE THE NUMBERS UP AND READY? AND, AND IT, BECAUSE WE'RE VOTING ON FINAL MAPS ON THAT NIGHT.
SO I'M JUST KIND OF TRYING TO, IN MY MIND, FIGURE OUT HOW THAT'S ALL GOING TO WORK OUT.
SO, UM, THE BOARD WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO FINALLY ADOPT A MAP ON DECEMBER 7TH IF IT'S BEEN PUBLISHED BY NOVEMBER 30TH.
SO IF THE BOARD AT THAT POINT ON DECEMBER 7TH DECIDES THAT IT NEEDS TO MAKE CHANGES, UH, SAY FOR THE SAKE OF MY HEART AND MR. TILTON'S, UM, THAT WE HOPE THEY'RE MINOR.
UM, BUT FOR THAT TO WORK, WE WOULD HAVE TO PUBLISH THE FINAL, FINAL MAP THAT NIGHT BECAUSE IT WOULD HAVE TO THEN COME BACK THE FOLLOWING WEEK FOR ADOPTION ON THE 14TH, UM, BECAUSE IT HAS TO BE OKAY, SO THAT'S GOOD.
I THINK THAT'S GOOD INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS THIS.
SO THEN WE WANT THEM IN BY NOVEMBER 23RD TO BE PUBLISHED BY DECEMBER, BY EXCUSE ME, NOVEMBER 30TH.
SO THEY HAVE TO BE PUBLISHED BY NOVEMBER 30.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS WHEN DO I GET TO LOOK AT THOSE? LIKE, I WOULD THINK THAT WE'D WANT THEM OUT LIKE A LITTLE BIT SOONER THAN THAT SO THAT WE GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
SO THAT AT LEAST IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE GOT TO DO A PUBLIC MEETING AND WHATNOT, BUT I GUESS I'LL JUST, WE'LL JUST KNOW THIS I'VE NEVER NOVEMBER 30TH, IF THERE'S LIKE, YEAH, I GUESS WE JUST CROSS THAT BRIDGE WHEN WE GET THERE.
IT'S W WE'LL SEE WHEN, WHEN WE HAVE A PUBLIC MEETING, W WE'LL GET TO DECIDE IF THERE'S A MAJORITY THAT THAT'S, THAT SUPPORTS ONE OF THOSE MAPS.
AND THE TWEAKS THAT WE'VE MADE, HOW SOON WILL THOSE BE? UH, I MEAN, IT KIND OF, WE'RE SPEAKING FOR, FOR DR.
HE'S NOT HERE, BUT THEY'RE FAIRLY MINOR, SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD BE A LOT OF WORK.
UM, I MEAN, YEAH, THEY, THE NICE THING, IF IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE WE HAVE A HOLIDAY COMING UP AND SO I'M SURE HE'LL BE USING HIS HOLIDAY TO CATCH UP.
CAUSE MIND YOU, SORRY, IF I COULD JUST SAY IS, I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, REMIND PEOPLE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT THE ONLY COUNTY THAT'S GOING THROUGH THIS.
UH, AND I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS ARE BUSY AND THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.
AND THEN I WANT TO DISTRESS EVERYBODY.
THE IMPORTANCE OF GETTING THIS MAP DONE ON DECEMBER THE SEVENTH.
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OUR REGISTER OF VOTERS IS HERE.AND IN SPEAKING WITH HER, THE PROCESS THAT FOR THIS TO GET TURNED AROUND, THAT IT, THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH WITH THOSE NEW MAPS, VERIFY ADDRESSES, AND, AND, AND, AND HAVE ALL THAT STUFF.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT SLIDE EARLIER, THAT TALKS ABOUT WHEN, UH, YOU KNOW, BEING ABLE WHEN, WHEN THE NOMINATION PERIOD UP FILES THOSE, THOSE SIGNATURES IN LIEU OF HAVE TO BE FROM YOUR DISTRICT.
THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT THEY'RE FROM YOUR DISTRICT WHEN YOU DO ALL THAT.
SO THERE'S, IT'S NOT JUST FOR OUR SAKE.
THIS IS THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN AFTER THIS, ON THIS REALLY RUSHED TIMELINE BECAUSE OF COVID, SINCE THIS WAS DATA WAS, WAS DELAYED, ALL THAT.
SO I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT TO PEOPLE, THIS ISN'T A RUSH.
THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO START EARLIEST IS THAT WE COULD MAKE THIS DEADLINE SO THAT, UM, WE CAN GET THIS INFORMATION TURNED AROUND SO THAT WE ARE READY FOR, BECAUSE THE ELECTION'S NOT TILL JUNE, BUT THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN BEFORE THAT.
SO JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THAT.
THANK YOU, SUPERVISOR MR. BROWN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? NO, I THINK WE, WE HAVE, UH, HEARD AS FAR AS THE INTEREST, MY MIND WAS PROCESSING WITH SUPERVISORS SO FAR, AS FAR AS ON THE SEVENTH, AND IF THEY MAKE POSSIBLE TWEAKS OR ADJUSTMENTS ON THE SEVENTH AND THE POPULATION, AND I GUESS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN LOOK AT AND TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS WILL, WILL WE BE HAVE THE ABILITY AT THAT MEETING TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, MA MAKE MINOR MODIFICATIONS TO SEE WHAT IT DOES TO THE POPULATION NUMBERS? YEAH.
DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, JUST FOR CLARITY.
UM, SO 1 0 3 COMES BACK WITH NO CHANGES, CORRECT.
AND THEN, UM, WITH RESPECT TO 1 0 1 AND 7 1, 1 5, 1 WE'RE WE'RE BRINGING BACK JUST BASICALLY NEW VERSIONS OF THOSE MAPS.
I'M NOT BRINGING BACK THESE ORIGINALS, RIGHT? CORRECT.
THANK YOU REPLACEMENTS, BECAUSE JUST FOR, SO THERE ARE A COUPLE OTHER DIFFERENCES IN 1 0 1 AND 1 51, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS IN OTHER AREAS THAT MAY GIVE INTEREST TO BOARD MEMBERS.
AND SO WE, WE CAN TALK, BUT THERE, WE MAY NEED TO HOW THE NOTATIONS AND WHAT'S BEEN EXPRESSED AS IMPORTANCE WHERE THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT.
TILTON WAS ASKING IS JUST, YOU DON'T WANT TO COME BACK AND SEE ONE-ON-ONE AND ONE-ON-ONE A, YOU WANT A REPLACEMENT THAT WILL HAVE THREE MATCH NEXT TIME, NOT FIVE.
IT WILL BE 1 0 1 B YOU'LL SEE.
AND THEN 1, 1, 5, 1 B, IT'LL BE THAT'S.
SO WE KNOW HOW THEY'RE CONNECTED.
DEREK AND I SUPPORTED SOLVERA.
I THINK YOU ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
SO WHEN YOU GET THESE TURNED AROUND AND THEY, AND WE, THEY, THEY SHOW UP ON THE DRAMA MERCER COUNTY WEBSITE.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW HOW WE WILL BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THAT THEY'RE NEW.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT YOU WOULD JUST GIVE THEM THEIR OWN NUMBER PATTERNS.
SO IT MAKES THEM VERY, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU COULD JUST DO LIKE IN DC.
WE USUALLY DO LIKE A LETTER, USUALLY YOU'RE THE SECOND VERSION WOULD BE B THIRD C ET CETERA.
SO, SO WE SEE ANYTHING WITH, UH, WITH AN A OR A B, BECAUSE NOTHING ELSE HAS A ON THERE IS WHAT WE BASICALLY HAVE NOW.
IT'S KIND OF THE UNDERSTOOD A OKAY.
SO ANYTHING WITH A B ON THERE WOULD BE NEW STUFF.
IT'LL BE THE RE UH, REVISED BASED ON YOUR, UH, DIRECTION TONIGHT, BUT YOU MAY SEE NEW STUFF THAT'S BEEN SUBMITTED, UH, BETWEEN NOW AND THE DEADLINE, RIGHT? YEAH.
THOSE WILL BE SUBMITTED ONTO THE, ONTO THE REVIEW REVIEW.
AND THE OUTCOME IS BASICALLY ONE PACKAGE, SO RIGHT WHEN THESE REVISIONS COME, SO ALL THOSE OTHER ONES.
PEDROZA YEAH, I WAS JUST, UM, SUPERVISOR, SOLVERA ALREADY ALLUDED TO IT.
JUST MAKING SURE THAT THE PUBLIC WAS AWARE ON WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT, UM, UH, THAT'S ALREADY BEEN, UH, BEEN HIT ON MULTIPLE TIMES.
UM, BUT WHAT HOLIDAY IS COMING UP? I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
THERE'S SOMETHING IMPORTANT NOWADAYS FOR READING THAT'S BECAUSE YOU'RE USED TO THE EXAMS BEFORE THE HOLIDAY.
THIS CONCLUDES THE BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING FOR NOVEMBER 16TH, 2021, THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED BOARD OF SUPERVISORS MEETING AND FINAL REDISTRICTING PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE HELD ON DECEMBER 7TH, 2021.